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Old 04-26-11, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jeebusaurousrex View Post
Stupid question of the day: Under US Cycling rules once you hit Cat4, how long does one have to be out of racing to be demoted back to Cat5?
I don't think it matters. A guy I know here didn't race for about 15 years, but he called up USA Cycling and they found his old number and started him as a 4. As a side note, his license number is only five digits.
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Old 04-26-11, 12:38 PM
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The rules say that you can never get a downgrade to Cat 5. So, if you took time off as a 4, you would return as a 4. If you took a break at any higher category (e.g., 3), you could request a downgrade when you return to racing if you think it's necessary. I don't think that there is any automatic downgrading provided there is some record of your previous road license.
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Old 04-26-11, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by aicabsolut View Post
The rules say that you can never get a downgrade to Cat 5. So, if you took time off as a 4, you would return as a 4. If you took a break at any higher category (e.g., 3), you could request a downgrade when you return to racing if you think it's necessary. I don't think that there is any automatic downgrading provided there is some record of your previous road license.
I was a 2 before taking years off for job/family. When I next bought a license, I had the old number but it came back as cat 4.

A buddy who was a 1, who didn't take quite as many years off as me, his new license came back as cat 3. No idea of the logic behind either of those. Truth be told, both of us were cat 4 or worse in fitness.
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Old 04-26-11, 01:14 PM
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When I started racing again, they couldn't find my old number, so I had to get a new license as a 5, but then got an automatic upgrade based on previous experience.
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Old 04-26-11, 01:26 PM
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I raced as a 4 long before USCF's computer records start. When I started again I got a new license as a 5.
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Old 04-26-11, 01:33 PM
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A teammate of ours won a frame as a Cat 5 prime in a road race a few weeks ago. Almost as good as getting baked goods.
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Old 04-26-11, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
When I started racing again, they couldn't find my old number, so I had to get a new license as a 5, but then got an automatic upgrade based on previous experience.
Same here. They said they lost a lot of old data from the 80's and previous. The procedure was to get a new license as a Cat5 and immediately request an upgrade to the category you want. I chose Cat3 as I was a Cat2 in the past. No issues whatsoever. However, the answer to the question should be what aicabsolut wrote. As long as you are in their system, you should never be downgraded to a Cat5 no matter how long your license lapses.

I wish I could get my old 5 digit number back.
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Old 04-26-11, 02:17 PM
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I was lucky. They had my 5-digit number, and slotted me back at Cat 3, where I left off. I didn't buy a license 1997-2005.
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Old 04-26-11, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VT Biker View Post
This is because in Colorado under ACA rules, there are only 4 categories, and you do not get automatically upgraded.
Yeah, that was an ACA race. But in the USAC races I've done this year (AFA, DU crit) it was a combined 4/5 category. Does this mean that USAC always will combine 4/5 in Colorado to match the ACA groupings?
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Old 04-26-11, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97 View Post
A teammate of ours won a frame as a Cat 5 prime in a road race a few weeks ago. Almost as good as getting baked goods.
That's awesome! . . . and I think I know what race you are talking about as I raced there too! Quite a day, and any prizes were well-deserved :-)
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Old 04-27-11, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagogal View Post
That's awesome! . . . and I think I know what race you are talking about as I raced there too! Quite a day, and any prizes were well-deserved :-)
OK - now you have to tell us who you are.

More on this "kid" winning the frame -

This is the guy who seemingly has a heart of gold and took his first ever podium at Sherman Park only to discover that his car window was smashed and his bike was stolen while still at the race. A team member and local shop owner set him up with a team priced bike in time to race Leland....where he won the Tati frame for being the 1st cat 5 to complete the first lap.

It's good bike karma like that which keeps me racing.
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Old 04-27-11, 04:09 PM
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I think I probably won more value in primes or top 5's as a Cat 5 then I've ever won in cash in the 4's or 3's. But that's because I suck.
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Old 04-27-11, 04:41 PM
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It's only 10 races, I don't get the big deal.
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Old 04-27-11, 07:25 PM
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Did you feel that way when you were a Cat5 mattm?
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Old 04-27-11, 08:54 PM
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Yea... 10 races can seem like forever. I managed to get out of the 5's after six races in OBRA-land.
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I personally felt safe as a cat 5. The races were short and so early that no one could watch me suck so badly out there. Half the field was fatter than me and you got to meet everyone new to the scene.

That said - you can't pay 5's. Meh. 10 and done. Just savor a couple of them.
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Old 04-27-11, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jeebusaurousrex View Post
Stupid question of the day: Under US Cycling rules once you hit Cat4, how long does one have to be out of racing to be demoted back to Cat5?

You can't go back to 5... legally. Start with a new number and you'll be a 5.
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Old 04-27-11, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mattm View Post
It's only 10 races, I don't get the big deal.
Five years ago in Michigan, it was a full season, assuming you raced ~3/4 of the races.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
OK - now you have to tell us who you are.

:-) I'm not going to make it that easy. You are going to have to guess/figure it out!!!
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I caught a Cat 5 while I was out today. We ended up riding together for about an hour, talking about racing. It reminded me how much knowledge I take for granted.
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Old 04-27-11, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
I caught a Cat 5 while I was out today. We ended up riding together for about an hour, talking about racing. It reminded me how much knowledge I take for granted.
such as: "pack the shoes"

... or not
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
such as: "pack the shoes"

... or not
Not. Forgetting my shoes reminded me of the time I forgot my bike.

Yes, this happened.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
OK - now you have to tell us who you are.

More on this "kid" winning the frame -

This is the guy who seemingly has a heart of gold and took his first ever podium at Sherman Park only to discover that his car window was smashed and his bike was stolen while still at the race. A team member and local shop owner set him up with a team priced bike in time to race Leland....where he won the Tati frame for being the 1st cat 5 to complete the first lap.

It's good bike karma like that which keeps me racing.
Awesome story,
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Old 04-28-11, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
Not. Forgetting my shoes reminded me of the time I forgot my bike.

Yes, this happened.
Did you still place ?
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