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Coefficient Wave Handlebar--Anyone Tried / Use?

Old 05-23-19, 12:09 AM
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They may work. I won't laugh at them but I just did 130 miles of 60% gravel and 10,000' of climbing on traditional deep semi-pista bars with brake hoods in the old low position. (Japanese made. I don't know the brand. Popular with hipsters a few years ago.) I've been struggling with chronic hand/wrist issues from old injuries and using tools. etc. that push my strength. Came home from the weekend and woke up Monday morning with my hands feeling great!

Those tops may be an improvement for my hands for seated climbing like I do a lot of when gravel riding. But I won't give up the drops of a shape from 50 years ago. Comfort and control last weekend on the hairy (and sometimes very rough) descents was excellent.

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Old 05-23-19, 12:19 AM
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They're the comfiest bars I've ever used, most of which is down to the shape, which is completely awesome. Where they really shine is when you go the phantom aero bar - the tops are heaps comfy under your forearms, and the corner humps make the position actually feel fairly safe for once. The flex also soaks up vibration and big hits nicely when on the hoods or drops.

As for safety, of course $40 carbon bars are a gamble, but you don't have to bet your teeth, just the purchase price. Simply try to break them before fitting to the bike. You'll hear a few fibres break, testament to the fact the factory doesn't test them, but the three pairs I bought all passed the destruction test. Thus I have full confidence in them; with DIY QC, you might break the occasional bar, but having to order another one is NBD; they're still cheap at twice the price, assuming you couldn't get a refund.

At the very least, it's not a bad way of trying out the shape, if you'd be prepared to spend a few hundred on the real deal if it grabs you.
How? They're going to see a lot more kNs when you hit a pothole at speed than I can think of how to produce in my living room, at least without actually breaking them.
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Old 05-23-19, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Yeah, but, the point of those bars isn't to ride gravel. They're built for speed more than anything. That's the intent of the design. For gravel riding, aero styles are thrown out the window. You don't need anything that can cut down on wind drag at that point. You need super comfort and control...even in the tops. Just not sure how an aero bar like that plays into gravel riding and such.

Strange how even on 3T's own website they point people to the SuperGhiaia bar for gravel riders, which is a completely different design. I actually looked at the Superergo bar initially. Only real distinguishing features is the flat tops and corner grips. No backsweep or really anything to aid in a more neutral hand position.

I personally have issues with tendonitis in my wrists so having something that can give me just the right angle for my wrists to be in when in the tops is a plus.
I dunno, gravel roads are just roads and a lot of rides are a combination of different surface types.
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Old 05-23-19, 10:50 AM
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True, true. Whatever works, right? Seems we get too much of the attitude in the cycling community that deems certain bikes and gear have to be used for certain types of riding. Gravel is a pretty new trend and, honestly, I don't think there's one thing that truly defines it. If aero bars work for you even for gravel riding then ride with them. I'm not a pro. I ride for the sake of riding. As such, doesn't really matter what kind of bike or gear you use, just get out and ride!
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Whatever works, right? Seems we get too much of the attitude in the cycling community that deems certain bikes and gear have to be used for certain types of riding. Gravel is a pretty new trend and, honestly, I don't think there's one thing that truly defines it. If aero bars work for you even for gravel riding then ride with them. I'm not a pro. I ride for the sake of riding. As such, doesn't really matter what kind of bike or gear you use, just get out and ride!
Many riders that compete in the Tour Divide use clip-on aerobars.

https://bikepacking.com/bikes/tour-divide-rigs-2018/
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
True, true. Whatever works, right? Seems we get too much of the attitude in the cycling community that deems certain bikes and gear have to be used for certain types of riding. Gravel is a pretty new trend and, honestly, I don't think there's one thing that truly defines it. If aero bars work for you even for gravel riding then ride with them. I'm not a pro. I ride for the sake of riding. As such, doesn't really matter what kind of bike or gear you use, just get out and ride!
Damnit this is the internet you're supposed to argue!
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
How? They're going to see a lot more kNs when you hit a pothole at speed than I can think of how to produce in my living room, at least without actually breaking them.
Yes and no... if you force the drops together by standing them on the floor and pushing down, that's similar to most of the loads the bars will see, and your judgement should tell you how much is enough to put your mind at rest... most folks would probably be able to break anything this light that shape if they tried hard enough I'd say, but my experience with these and my materials knowledge leads me to believe that even a nasty set of carbon bars will be quite a bit stronger than any ally bar of the same weight, barring all but perhaps the most egregious examples of poor quality.

Where you're right to be nervous though is the point where the bars emerge from the stem, and probably where the levers clamp on, which can't be assessed until the bars are fitted, obviously... so just give them another torture test as soon as you mount them and fit the levers.

Its perfectly possible to apply equivalent force in a continuum from negligible all the way up to catastrophic. And unlike with ally, doing so won't induce fatigue; if they survive the sort of loads I'm advocating as DIY QC, they'll have proved themselves fit for service.

As I already mentioned, I'm three for three - IME it's pretty hard to go wrong here. If you're still skeptical, maybe I'll shoot a vid showing the sort of tests I'm talking about.
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Old 05-23-19, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Damnit this is the internet you're supposed to argue!
Well, if ya wanna throw down like Bobby Flay I could make that happen.
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Me, upon seeing that 3T bar for the first time:

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Yeah, those 3T bars aren’t even listed on 3T’s website. What the hell are those? Fugly as sin!
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Looks > everything else
Who makes the Grail?
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Old 05-27-19, 10:54 AM
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Who makes the Grail?
Canyon. Not sure you can buy it on its own. I think you have to buy it with a bike. Itís...interesting. Not sure how much utility it brings though.
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Just installed the Wave handlebar on my bike. So far, pretty positive experience. They do take some getting used to though. The tops definitely feel different, especially after riding a traditional straight bar for so long. They also require some time to adjust. Had to tweak the angle of the tops twice after installing. But, once it's dialed it, it's all good. I'm still reviewing and, once I'm finished, I'll post a full review on my blog.

I'd post pics of my bike but, unfortunately, I can't till I have at least 10 posts.
I'm in the same boat so just posting for postings sake, lol. How do we know when we've posted enough to be free?
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Canyon. Not sure you can buy it on its own. I think you have to buy it with a bike. Itís...interesting. Not sure how much utility it brings though.
Seems restrictive on the wrist but I guess I'd have to try it. Thanks for the reply!
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I'm in the same boat so just posting for postings sake, lol. How do we know when we've posted enough to be free?
You can view the number of posts you have in your profile. I also signed up for a trial membership. Figure Iíd give it a shot to see what it offers. Seems to help and lifts the daily post limit. Five posts per day kinda sucks.
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Seems restrictive on the wrist but I guess I'd have to try it. Thanks for the reply!
Yeah, Iím not sure what to think about them. Doesnít appear Canyon has it for sale yet in the US...not even on any bike.

Bottom bar appears to be just for stability. The positioning seems odd too. Seems like it would get in the way of your thumbs when in the drops. I see what theyíre going for but, still, I think it might be a bit too limiting. I tend to vary my position in the drops based on what Iím doing. If I need control via the levers then I position my hands higher up. If Iím just coasting and donít anticipate any need to stop then I position my hands lower for a more neutral wrist position. Not sure if this bar would allow for that.

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Huh, had forgotten I started this thread...AND, still on my original bars. Will look forward to comment from those with experience with the Coeffients...when available. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Yeah, those 3T bars arenít even listed on 3Tís website. What the hell are those? Fugly as sin!
They are for riding on the track. Not for road use, brake levers etc.
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They are for riding on the track. Not for road use, brake levers etc.
Oh, hell, Iím sure one person uses them for gravel. No brake levers. Just sheer determination to make it through every turn without having to slow down. At least theyíll be aero AF.
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Huh, had forgotten I started this thread...AND, still on my original bars. Will look forward to comment from those with experience with the Coeffients...when available. Cheers!
Iíve got the Coefficient Wave on my bike now. Still reviewing them. Been on a few road rides and one short gravel ride so far. Mostly positive experience so far. Will be going on a longer gravel ride this Saturday. I think thatíll likely be the cap on my review. Will finish it up and post it on my blog.
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Originally Posted by jeffwhitfield View Post
Yeah, those 3T bars arenít even listed on 3Tís website. What the hell are those? Fugly as sin!
They allow you to have a much more aero position for mass start track events. They are ugly as sin.
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Plus, to be honest, I wouldnít trust the Toseek bars. Thereís a reason why they cost only $40. I wouldnít dare trust the carbon fiber they use. Imagine your bar cracking mid-ride. Disaster waiting to happen.
Seriously. Those toseek aeronova ripoffs are the worst bars I've ever had the misfortune of installing on my bike. I was hearing audible cracks when sprinting, and that's in addition to them being so flexy that I could wiggle the drops around with one hand while riding.

I took them off pretty quickly and got the real version, and while the real ones are still quite a bit more flexy than say a Zipp Aero SL 70, I've never worried about snapping it in half.
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Look at me now!

Time to look again.

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Just posted up a link to my full review of the Wave handlebar on my blog. Read and weep!

https://www.bikeforums.net/blogger-s...l#post20983874
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