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Old 05-31-19, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
I would assume there is a third type of helicopter which provides private island tours.
Sure. There's heli-skiing, and helicopters are useful in wars, too. But the fact that you can pay for a helicopter for a construction project doesn't really have any bearing on how rescues work.
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Originally Posted by UniChris View Post
AMC "huts" are staffed during the part of the season when anyone would ordinarily venture there. Think pay-to-stay hostel, but very spartan and everything carried in. Dropped by several times and bought a cup of hot chocolate, you can hike up midsummer in a tee shirt but find yourself in winter and gale force winds inside a few minutes.
In the Methow, there are a series of huts for Nordic skiers. You reserve them ahead of time.

I forget which has the best view, surprisingly it isn't this one.



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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Search and rescue is done by volunteers.
Thatís maybe regional dependent. There was a reality TV show that I actually enjoyed called North Woods Law, about the Maine Game Wardens. They are the initial first responders usually when somebody is lost in the woods. If the person isnít found quickly, they call in volunteer rescue groups and others to expand. State of NY works this way in the Adirondacks, itís the Dept. of Enviro. Conservation Rangers that get the call initially and are first to respond, with and as needed State Police helicopters. In some scenarios a volunteer mt. rescue group might be first on scene as with the hiker Kate Matrosova in the White Mt.ís of New Hampshire back in 2015. The first responders were the local volunteer mt. rescue group who are trained and equipped for the terrain and conditions.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Search and rescue is done by volunteers.
Our last local considerable search and rescue had over 200 people involved in the search, with several members from several neighboring counties, and with the family having to set up a go fund me account to help pay for the damage done to private roads involved in the search. That still involved a lot of man hours and money for someone being found a mile and a half from the backdoor of the family's home.
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
Thatís maybe regional dependent. There was a reality TV show that I actually enjoyed called North Woods Law, about the Maine Game Wardens. They are the initial first responders usually when somebody is lost in the woods. If the person isnít found quickly, they call in volunteer rescue groups and others to expand. State of NY works this way in the Adirondacks, itís the Dept. of Enviro. Conservation Rangers that get the call initially and are first to respond, with and as needed State Police helicopters. In some scenarios a volunteer mt. rescue group might be first on scene as with the hiker Kate Matrosova in the White Mt.ís of New Hampshire back in 2015. The first responders were the local volunteer mt. rescue group who are trained and equipped for the terrain and conditions.
Thanks for that. Around here the sheriff is the first point of contact (when you hit the panic button, the SOS is sent to the sheriff's office) and officially in charge of coordinating, but that's mostly a ceremonial duty. LEOs I think conduct searches for children and elderly who get lost in neighborhoods. But hikers and climbers, that's handled by people with the appropriate expertise.

It costs about $350 to become a SAR volunteer here. I'm on the wait list for training starting in August.
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Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
Our last local considerable search and rescue had over 200 people involved in the search, with several members from several neighboring counties, and with the family having to set up a go fund me account to help pay for the damage done to private roads involved in the search. That still involved a lot of man hours and money for someone being found a mile and a half from the backdoor of the family's home.
You seem very moved by things that happened once.
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I know a guy who never went hiking, and suffers from diabetes. To me, it's just not worth the risk.

Couch potatoes cost our health care system too much. No one should ever neglect to go hiking just because that can't get a friend to join them. People have a duty to go hiking because money.
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You seem very moved by things that happened once.
Even back in the day, one did not take venturing off into the wilderness lightly......The Stuff of Legends:The Ways of the Mountain Men

" Contrary to the common image of the lonely trapper, the mountain men usually traveled in brigades of 40 to 60, including camp tenders and meat hunters. From the brigade base camps, they would fan out to trap in parties of two or three."

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Just saw this movie recently...very good.
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Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
Even back in the day, one did not take venturing off into the wilderness lightly......The Stuff of Legends:The Ways of the Mountain Men

" Contrary to the common image of the lonely trapper, the mountain men usually traveled in brigades of 40 to 60, including camp tenders and meat hunters. From the brigade base camps, they would fan out to trap in parties of two or three."

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Did people who went to the mountains for solitude in the I'd days go in parties of 5 dozen? That would be illegal today.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
Just saw this movie recently...very good.
Here's an interesting read about the real John Johnston, and was very different from the character depicted in the movie.

"Johnston’s squaw the Swan and Johnston’s son were supposedly being killed by the Crow. This proves the story was false. After this, came the myth that Johnston sought revenge and went on a rampage against the Crow. Supposedly, this made a Crow chief mad, so he sent 20 of his best warriors after Johnston one at a time. Johnston, they said, killed them all. Johnston’s military record also proves there was no Crow Vendetta against him for that reason. Johnston was actually friends with the Crow most of the time, so it was all a big tall tale. The “Crow Chief” that supposedly induced 20 warriors after Johnston wasn’t even Crow."

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...johnson/181212
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Stepped off the trail for a toke? Or did the edibles kick in?
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