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Old 03-20-19, 07:36 AM
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Robocalls - the plague of our modern age

WARNING - if you don't know John Oliver, he can be NSFW (not PG-rated)

I cannot say how often I get interrupted by a call that ends up being a scam/robocall. It's been a part of my life for nearly 10 years. My cell phone is my business line and I'm in sales so I do frequently get legitimate calls that are not in my contact list. Therefore, some simple options, like changing my number or white listing apps are not a solution for my issues.

I use Mr Number and it's moderately successful at blocking robocalls, but the scammers are getting smarter and buying new numbers so faster and the app is not able to keep up. I'm open to new, better block/screening apps. Anybody have a better option? I'd love an app that would blow up the computer on the other end of the call, save all of us a ton of pain!

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Old 03-23-19, 03:54 AM
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Don't know about "blow up," but I'd settle for an app that would just answer and emit a super annoying screaching sound... like a fax machine gone bad.

Unfortunately robots won't care, it would only be good for telemarketers and political calls.
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Old 03-23-19, 08:51 AM
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I got one last week that was in some foreign language, that was new to me.
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Old 03-23-19, 08:55 AM
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I think I may have gotten the same call. Does it begin, "Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto ..."?

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Old 03-23-19, 09:13 AM
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Yes, we all need to get a phone call from this guy........




I remember when I shut off our house landline phone, and the phone company said it could take 2 to 3 days to stop the service, but 2 to 3 hours later, I was astounded at how quiet our house became. With the new unlimited blocker app on my cell phone, I can continually add new numbers to the list with a couple of taps on the screen.
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Old 03-23-19, 09:33 AM
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Someone here posted a link to a phone provider who coverts all your voicemails to text, so you can read them as an email instead of listening to them, I think I would like that feature. I checked the company out and they rely on there being an existing internet connection, and they piggyback on top of that, so I'm not sure how much something like that would be worth. Hopefully some of the big telecoms will start adding that feature soon, if they haven't already, I'd pay for that service if it meant not having to answer phones and deal with all the telemarketers, scammers, and robocallers.
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Old 03-23-19, 06:29 PM
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Old 03-24-19, 09:38 AM
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If they can send a man to the moon..... you know the rest
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Any politician who eliminated Daylight Saving Time, and began vigorous enforcement of the Do Not Call List, could win re-election in a landslide, even if they did absolutely nothing else.
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Old 03-24-19, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Deal4Fuji View Post
If they can send a man to the moon..... you know the rest
It's been possible to fix this issue for some time... but apparently some folks were making profits based on the lack of a fix. Again, the profit motive rears its ugly head.
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It's been possible to fix this issue for some time... but apparently some folks were making profits based on the lack of a fix. Again, the profit motive rears its ugly head.
Robocalling is a large billions-dollar-a-year-industry in the US alone. They've repeatedly bribed elected officials at state and federal levels into not actually doing anything of consequence.

Hence the toothless "CAN SPAM" act.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Robocalling is a large billions-dollar-a-year-industry in the US alone. They've repeatedly bribed elected officials at state and federal levels into not actually doing anything of consequence.

Hence the toothless "CAN SPAM" act.
Follow the money... the answer to just about any question... at least in the US.
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First of all I don't buy the fact that the phone companies cannot tell when their lines are being abused and identify the culprits. Next, once those locations are identified you cut the service, increase fines and penalties and start locking up some people. Again, the phone companies have to be able to identify these abusers, but for some reason they don't want to take action.
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FYI: Here's another foreign scam to watch out for, folks. When I picked up my work phone this morning (a cell phone) I noticed there were 12 calls from a '962' number over the weekend, but the number looked odd (more than 10 digits). 962 is the area code around Kansas City/Shawnee, Kansas. I googled it and its a new scam that's being run out of Jordan (the country in the Middle East). The phone read-out shows the call is from the 'United States' which is odd since calls from another USA area code usually give you the local big city where its located. Watch out!
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Many people cancelled landline service to avoid robocalls. Phone companies are fine with that because they don't want the expense of maintaining wires on poles.
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Out Of Area is the one I look for...they are probably checking this post our now anyway.

No body tends to call me from out of town except my mama. About as useless are email dating spam.

Robocalls don't care if you have a landline! They are dialing all the numbers in blocks and zooming in on the ones that answer. Nobody decided you were special for having a copper line.

And as I'm sure you've figured out by now @Hypno Toad, they aren't buying any numbers half the time, they can fake the Caller ID. In the old daze people used to break into the network boxes and use one of the wire sets (legend has it that this is how pirate radio stations would take requests etc). Jobs and Wozniak got in trouble for phone phreaking long ago I heard, using touchtone like generators to game payphones for free calls.

The 'good old daze', I guess...
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Old 03-28-19, 04:38 PM
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PS Look in the news for yesterday or today, DOJ nailed four of the biggest scamsters and made them pay.

Of course, that stuff ended about 3-4 years ago and one of them was extradited from like Kazakhstan or something. it's not like they are sitting around in New Jersey on a Friday and get bored.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
Out Of Area is the one I look for...they are probably checking this post our now anyway.

No body tends to call me from out of town except my mama. About as useless are email dating spam.

Robocalls don't care if you have a landline! They are dialing all the numbers in blocks and zooming in on the ones that answer. Nobody decided you were special for having a copper line.

And as I'm sure you've figured out by now @Hypno Toad, they aren't buying any numbers half the time, they can fake the Caller ID. In the old daze people used to break into the network boxes and use one of the wire sets (legend has it that this is how pirate radio stations would take requests etc). Jobs and Wozniak got in trouble for phone phreaking long ago I heard, using touchtone like generators to game payphones for free calls.

The 'good old daze', I guess...
They used a Cap'n Crunch whistle to reset phone lines:


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Ah, yes, that's it. Your modern telephone network of the 1970s in a nutshell.
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The newest annoyers are trying to sell back braces for pain. They have no reason to think I might need one and I don't know why they do, but I get these quite often.
It appears they have found some angle to get Medicare to cover them at 100%, because they hang up when I tell them I don't have Medicare.
So now I begin the conversation with

"Are you too stupid to get a real job?"
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I just don't ever answer my phone unless it's someone I know, per I'm expecting a scheduled call (eg from a recruiter).
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Those Medicare scammers used to be able to get the govt to pay 100% of the cost of a power wheelchair, but that gravy train was forced off the tracks several years ago. Now they're doing the same thing with back braces.

One guy even wrote a song about his power chair, which was predictably made into a remix:

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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Any politician who eliminated Daylight Saving Time, and began vigorous enforcement of the Do Not Call List, could win re-election in a landslide, even if they did absolutely nothing else.
There's a reason they can't:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ted-only-6790/
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Old 04-04-19, 08:31 AM
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If these guys were terrorists, or selling child porn, I can guarantee they'd be caught and dealt with. Where there's a will, there's a way. But there's just no "will", or not enough of it anyway. Drop bunker buster bombs on a couple "fake IRS" call centers in India, and you'd see a drastic reduction of such calls. Or threaten to cut off aid if India doesn't shut them down. There's just no political will to fix the problem, because it's seen as "just a minor annoyance" by politicians, and not taken seriously, since none of these people even have to answer their own phones.
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It all started in 1986 with Robocop.
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