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Old 05-28-19, 05:43 PM
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Move over cable, TV antennas are back

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I put a new one on my roof about three years ago for a second television I have. Works great here in the media-heavy Los Angeles area for getting all the broadcast stations, PBS, foreign station with USA affiliates (NHK from Japan is the best of these), and a few oddball stations. I'm not into HBO or similar cable only pay channels, so the antenna gets me just about everything I want to watch.

FWIW: Space-X put 60 satellites into space last week that are part of a master plan for world-wide internet access. If it works out, or if another company comes up with cheap "internet only" access, I'll subscribe to their service in a heartbeat and tell the cable company 'bye-bye'.
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I cancelled cable years ago when they raised the rates and cut back on local services. Got a Mohu Leaf indoor antenna. Works fine.

Digital TV is just different, not better or worse. It's still vulnerable to multipath distortion, especially in the evening as the ionosphere changes, or during bad weather. Instead of "snow" we get a broken up signal.

In some ways analog TV was better with a good signal and antenna. Most stations now use noticeable compression. Some channels look better than before, others look worse.

The rerun/syndication channels have lots of glitches, stuttering, often with segments repeat-repeat-repeating for a couple of seconds at a time. Production quality is way, way down. The worst of the worst appear to have no experienced human beings running the station, so it's not unusual to tune into boxing and see only part of each round as ads run overtime into programming slots. Cuts in movies and syndicated TV shows make no sense, coming at times other than original intended by the TV series producers -- like right in the middle of dialog, then backtracking after ads and repeating part of the previous scene.Yay, deregulation.
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So, same ole same ole... 150 channels, and not a thing on... SIGH.

Pretty bad when the best thing on is I Love Lucy... from the 50s.
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I also dropped cable years ago. At one time there was some excellent television on cable that could not be found anywhere else. Just one of my favs was TVLand. I just loved the retro commercials. And most of the shows were not cut to ribbons to make room for commercials.

First they dropped the retros. The started cutting shows. The last straw for me was when they went to original programming. Now MeTV is tsrating to go that route.

What really upset me was when all of the special interest channels moved to "reality" TV. TLC has nothing to do with learning anymore.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
So, same ole same ole... 150 channels, and not a thing on... SIGH.

Pretty bad when the best thing on is I Love Lucy... from the 50s.
Back in the day it was only 57 channels.
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Old 05-28-19, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
I also dropped cable years ago. At one time there was some excellent television on cable that could not be found anywhere else. Just one of my favs was TVLand. I just loved the retro commercials. And most of the shows were not cut to ribbons to make room for commercials.

First they dropped the retros. The started cutting shows. The last straw for me was when they went to original programming. Now MeTV is tsrating to go that route.

What really upset me was when all of the special interest channels moved to "reality" TV. TLC has nothing to do with learning anymore.
Broadcast TV has some excellent programming now. Blue Bloods, SEAL Team are excellent. A shame they cut Code Black.
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Old 05-28-19, 09:29 PM
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Directv bill is getting too expensive for crummy tv channels I never watch.
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TV is like the 3.5mm jack, I'm surprised anyone still uses it.
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Well I look at like this, 3.5mm may not be as ubiquitous as it once was, but its still alive and well, as is broadcast television; and although it may be a long way from perfect -- especially when compared to some pay content -- the good news is that it gives us a choices, and in the case of TV, that choice is free.
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Over the air broadcast TV also provides an option for those folks who can't afford cable or do not have access due to lack of geographic density of a customer base.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
TV is like the 3.5mm jack, I'm surprised anyone still uses it.
Huh? I haven't seen a 3.5mm jack on a TV in 20 years or more.
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Old 05-29-19, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
Over the air broadcast TV also provides an option for those folks who can't afford cable or do not have access due to lack of geographic density of a customer base.
No. Actually it leaves an option for people that don't want to pay for crap. I see people a whole lot poorer than me with Direct TV and the rest likely have cable. Mnay communites have free cable for those that can't afford it.

And as far as population density. if an area lacks population density enough to not have cable then the location is probably going to be too far away from broadcast stations to get decent signal.

DirectTV (or similar) is an option for those people. I had DiectTV for years. Not because there was not a cable option but because it was the cheaper option.
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Old 05-29-19, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post
Back in the day it was only 57 channels.
Ha! Back in the day, I was beside myself when we went from 2 over the air local channels to cable provided 8 channels, and I had to get up more often off the couch or chair to manually turn the TV's channel knob.

Thank goodness for the day that we finally bought a used COLOR (Woo Hoo!) TV that had a tuner fork remote. One just had to remember not to throw their car keys too hard onto the front room table, otherwise the TV would change channels wildly.
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Old 05-29-19, 07:36 AM
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A couple of my family members just recently decided to reroof their mother in law unit, and the younger roofer employee was mystified by the old TV antenna mounted on the roof, and asked my family members what it was.
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Old 05-29-19, 07:41 AM
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I cut cable TV in my house in January 2018. I installed a Mohu attic antenna and cleaned up the internal cabling in my house to work better with the non amplified or low amplified over the air TV signal.

Funny thing is I discovered that the receiver in each TV is different where some TVs pick up more channels than others, on the same antenna cable run.

Anyway. the 150 channels and nothing on is spot on. Out if the 90+ that I receive only 1/3rd are in a language I understand. And out of that 1/3rd maybe 90 percent is old shows, infomercials, or religious stations.

Still, it's a cheap alternative for people that really don't watch much TV.
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Old 05-29-19, 07:43 AM
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We've never had anything but an antenna on the roof at our house. Over-the-air broadcasting provides everything I'm looking for or need from my TV.
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I really do have about 57 channels.
When Radio Shack bit the dust, I got a couple of rotators and more mast than I know what to do with.
I mounted an amplifier at the antenna to overcome coaxial cable loss, and one to feed each leg of the system that goes to each television.

Canada? Point the antenna North.
Tacoma? Point the antenna South.
Bellevue/Seattle Southeast, Southwest, respectivly.

I'm actually a fan of the Korean news channel...of all things. But H&I, and Comet get a fair bit of my attention too. Then, of course there is the usual assortment of ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, with all their consolidated "in brand" content/distribution empires. Public access gets plenty of diverse content from local city/state version of CSPAN all the way to cooking shows & kids programming.

I really gotta say, I don't miss very much in the media world by cutting the cord. An antenna saves me probably a $100 a month. With that kind of return on investment, why would anyone need cable?

I still get the sports recap every night, and lots of live sports are actually broadcast live...Imagine that!

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Originally Posted by dynodonn View Post
Ha! Back in the day, I was beside myself when we went from 2 over the air local channels to cable provided 8 channels, and I had to get up more often off the couch or chair to manually turn the TV's channel knob.

Thank goodness for the day that we finally bought a used COLOR (Woo Hoo!) TV that had a tuner fork remote. One just had to remember not to throw their car keys too hard onto the front room table, otherwise the TV would change channels wildly.
We had 3! As well as channel 13 (public broadcasting). Later we got channel 53 which is now Fox. Dpn't remember what it was back in the day. And I think you are right. When cab;e first came out there were not many stations. But I don't remember use having a remote at first.

I used to repair televisions. I was always replacing those old tuners. There used to be places that would refurbish them. You would drop off the old "core" and pick up a refurbished tuner. I just did a ride through the town where I would get this done to sort of reminisce. I have forgotten what a wonderful little twown it is.
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The only reasons we have Cabal TV is (a) to watch PBS, and(b) because Comcast would charge even more ransom for an internet connection without limited basic.

I really wish we could receive an over-the-air signal.
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The only reasons we have Cabal TV is (a) to watch PBS, and(b) because Comcast would charge even more ransom for an internet connection without limited basic.

I really wish we could receive an over-the-air signal.
Verizon has loyalty discounts for long term customers. Give them a call and ask.
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We don't have cell-phone service where we live. (If this is something else, sorry, but I am not comprehending ...)
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We have never had cable, satellite, or any type of pay tv. Only antennae. PBS news, documentaries, cooking and house repair shows, old classic sitcoms and Svengoolie is plenty enough for us. Saved ourselves a boat load of $$$$ over the years.
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I don't remember the last time I paid for TV but it seems like 15 years ago. Not gonna do it.
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I cut cable last year. I do miss a few shows, but not enough to justify the ridiculous cost. I do more streaming now (Netflix and Amazon Prime). I also have a cheap antenna. I get most of the local channels, but for some reason I can't get the CBS stations unless I move the antenna a few feet over. Then I don't get the other channels.
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