Two type of cyclist I just dont understand.
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No one would be able to see all the stuff I have becasue my bike has down tube storage. While I run tubeless, I still carry a TPU tube, CO2 and even a small pump. Also, a very minimal first aid kit. I keep some Gorilla tape wrapped around the pump. I carry a Dynaplug Racer in my ride wallet.
I can understand why some might not carry these things. I've never needed to put a tube in over about 5 years and 20,000+ miles. I've used a CO2 once, I've loaned the pump once or twice. I haven't even needed to plug a tire in almost two years.
But I know if I didn't carry these things, the cycling Gods would smite me. I see it as a way to ward off trouble. I do like the idea that short of a major mechanical, I can likely get myself home. I also do my best to keep my bike maintained to avoid problems.
I can understand why some might not carry these things. I've never needed to put a tube in over about 5 years and 20,000+ miles. I've used a CO2 once, I've loaned the pump once or twice. I haven't even needed to plug a tire in almost two years.
But I know if I didn't carry these things, the cycling Gods would smite me. I see it as a way to ward off trouble. I do like the idea that short of a major mechanical, I can likely get myself home. I also do my best to keep my bike maintained to avoid problems.
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I've got a buddy, he rides a heavy gravel/touring bike with chubby knobby tires that has a beefy rear rack with a large pannier bag, yet he only carries a single 20oz water bottle on his rides. I ask him what's in his pannier and he says spare lights, a wind breaker, and his tool kit. That's not that much gear for a 20L pannier bag.
The bike is so heavy and cumbersome, but he finds it comfortable so he rides it on both short and long rides, mostly on the road with occasional fire road. It's annoying for me to look at as well as ride with him because even my "heavy duty" gravel bike is so much lighter and faster than his bike. We once did a S24O bike camping trip - about 40 ish miles with one significant dirt climb to get to the campgrounds. My moving time was a generous 4 hours, but my total elapsed time was 6 hours because I literally had to wait 2 extra hours for him over the course of the ride. He also goes on these 50+ mile rides and spends all afternoon doing it, too. I cannot fathom how he can tolerate the slowness and inefficiency of doing those kind of miles on that bike, but he says he enjoys it. I told him if he wants to ride with me, he's gotta leave that bike at home and bring something lighter and quicker. He says I'm trying to be macho and that if I want to do a hustle roadie ride I should do it without him. I tell him I'm just on a regular road bike and that I'm not even pushing it, in fact I'm holding back just to not drop him on a coffee ride. Guy looks like he's touring when we're just going for coffee.
The bike is so heavy and cumbersome, but he finds it comfortable so he rides it on both short and long rides, mostly on the road with occasional fire road. It's annoying for me to look at as well as ride with him because even my "heavy duty" gravel bike is so much lighter and faster than his bike. We once did a S24O bike camping trip - about 40 ish miles with one significant dirt climb to get to the campgrounds. My moving time was a generous 4 hours, but my total elapsed time was 6 hours because I literally had to wait 2 extra hours for him over the course of the ride. He also goes on these 50+ mile rides and spends all afternoon doing it, too. I cannot fathom how he can tolerate the slowness and inefficiency of doing those kind of miles on that bike, but he says he enjoys it. I told him if he wants to ride with me, he's gotta leave that bike at home and bring something lighter and quicker. He says I'm trying to be macho and that if I want to do a hustle roadie ride I should do it without him. I tell him I'm just on a regular road bike and that I'm not even pushing it, in fact I'm holding back just to not drop him on a coffee ride. Guy looks like he's touring when we're just going for coffee.
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Here in the snowbelt in the winter, I watch a lot of videos of trail rides all over the country. I see two types of cyclist on these rides. One is the rider that has No visible trace of tubes. patch kits, or pumps. I guess they rely on help from other riders. The other type is the rider that has his whole bike loaded down with bags. They look like that if someone invited to to a cross country ride, they could say lets go. For just an out and back ride, I just dont understand either one.
I ride with a trunk pack, that should have enough tools, tubes, patch kits, mini pump, and other emergency parts that should get me home 99% of the time without walking.
I ride with a trunk pack, that should have enough tools, tubes, patch kits, mini pump, and other emergency parts that should get me home 99% of the time without walking.
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I am pretty sure there are more than 2 types of riders that do not understand these posts.
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I don't carry anything. Water, food, tools - nothing.
I have people that carry my stuff for me.
Third type of cyclist - a rich M'Fer with a staff.
I have people that carry my stuff for me.
Third type of cyclist - a rich M'Fer with a staff.
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And it’s funny. Just the other day I commented that he appeared to have abandoned the “I’m doing it right and you’re doing it wrong.” threads. I’m guessing this thread is his response.
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[QUOTE=rydabent;23184727 I am old, was a repair tech for 50 years.[/QUOTE] Weird that you find so many folks on the road having problems with vintage photocopiers.
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Clearly an issue needing legislation. Big Tool, Big Tire/Tube, Big Bag should be called on to set the standards. I know that I'll certainly be happier with the roads populated by responsible cyclists and knowing that I have everything that I could need to support my ride.
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And they can do a long walk home, unless they come across someone that has the equipment like me, and is willing to stop and help.
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Aaa
Actually I cannot tell you how many cyclist I have stopped and helped because they were riding with no equipment to repair their bikes. I am old, was a repair tech for 50 years, and I have the time, and am in no hurry to get home.
But again I dont understand how they think they can ride with nothing.
But again I dont understand how they think they can ride with nothing.
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Well if indeed someone had a copier on their bike, I could probably fix it. An excellent technician can pretty much figure out how to repair many different kinds of machines.
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What's a trail ride?
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A highly experienced car mechanic I knew used to bring his bike into our shop for service. I once asked him why, since cars required a much higher level of mechanical expertise, he didn't work on his bike himself. He said that he knew enough about working on cars to not assume that he knew enough to work on bikes. Smart man.
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An "excellent technician" could pretty much figure out that not everyone has to ride the same way that they do. The only logical conclusion, therefore, is that you're not one.
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Or maybe just a lazy guy. As far as mechanics go a bicycle is an incredibly simple machine for for a good technician.
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It’s going to hit near 60 in Lincoln today. Go ride your bike (or the tricycle you claim to own) and post some pics.
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I've walked home with my bike on my shoulder more than just one or two times. And even refusing offers of help from other cyclists. It wasn't because I wasn't prepared for the emergency. I had a both a tube and a patch kit along with a inflator in my bag. I just didn't want to fix my flat on the side of the road those days and I'd already finished most of my ride.
I wonder how many others wrongly judged me as inadequately prepared for riding my bike as I walked those 3 or so miles to the house.
I wonder how many others wrongly judged me as inadequately prepared for riding my bike as I walked those 3 or so miles to the house.
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I've known plenty of mechanics and techs who were arrogant about their skills. I've known only a few whose arrogance was justified. All the best mechanics and techs I've known were anything but arrogant.
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