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Old 07-28-18, 11:59 AM
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I recently signed up for the 30 Strava Premium trial. Of the few enhancements I've noticed, knowing the exact start and end of a segment has been most beneficial. With just that information alone, I have been able to knock off a second or two in a few local segments to move me into trophy territory. The downside is that Strava only alerts of an upcoming segment if it has been starred by the user via the app or website. And worse, the group I ride with creates the routes via Ride w/ GPS, which means A) I must ride the route first and then star the segments when I get back or B) modify the .GPX file to make it appear as an activity and star the segments that way, but this breaks the turn by turn notifications on my Wahoo, forcing me to look at the map page while riding. I don't see this trial going beyond 30 days.
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Originally Posted by MindTrip
I recently signed up for the 30 Strava Premium trial. Of the few enhancements I've noticed, knowing the exact start and end of a segment has been most beneficial. With just that information alone, I have been able to knock off a second or two in a few local segments to move me into trophy territory. The downside is that Strava only alerts of an upcoming segment if it has been starred by the user via the app or website. And worse, the group I ride with creates the routes via Ride w/ GPS, which means A) I must ride the route first and then star the segments when I get back or B) modify the .GPX file to make it appear as an activity and star the segments that way, but this breaks the turn by turn notifications on my Wahoo, forcing me to look at the map page while riding. I don't see this trial going beyond 30 days.
You can star any segment, whether or not you've ridden it. Look at the Rw/GPS route, check the segment explore map on the Strava desktop site and star any interesting segments that you'll be covering on the route.
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I really want to be a premium member just to show support - but there's really nothing in there I want. "Sort segment leaders by weight" ??? Who the hell cares about that?

I'd like to be able to download the data and sort in a spreadsheet though.

I imagine Strava's business plan is to lasso the maximum number of free plan athletes so no one else can compete - and then start forcing the paid plans... and that's where we're at now. I'm too invested to switch... good thinking Strava.
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Old 07-28-18, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
I really want to be a premium member just to show support - but there's really nothing in there I want. "Sort segment leaders by weight" ??? Who the hell cares about that?

I'd like to be able to download the data and sort in a spreadsheet though.

I imagine Strava's business plan is to lasso the maximum number of free plan athletes so no one else can compete - and then start forcing the paid plans... and that's where we're at now. I'm too invested to switch... good thinking Strava.
What would you miss if you switched to GarminConnect, TrainingPeaks, MapMyWhatever, or a million other options? Not to mention more companies would come along if Strava got too annoying.
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Old 07-28-18, 01:34 PM
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Since the majority of the folks on this forum are criminals and/or adulterers, I'm suprised y'all don't use Strava Safety Beacon for alibi creation.
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Old 07-28-18, 03:09 PM
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What I meant was that I'm surprised no ads appear on the Strava website or apps. I expected that the data was used for targeted ads that appear via Google and Chrome, possibly on Facebook as well.

I suppose the lack of apparent ads on Strava itself is to minimize complaints from freeloaders who want free service but don't want to see ads because ... Marxism or capitalism or something, I dunno.

Anyway, I don't care if Strava uses my data for targeted ads. Fair trade for a useful service. I don't upload anything to Strava I wouldn't want known anyway. Heck, I enable Google tracking of my movements by default, so I have a record of everywhere I've been. Very helpful as an objective witness when I was hit by a car in May. And it helps me document my medical appointments. Sometimes an appointment varies from an actual visit, so the Google Timeline helps me keep an accurate journal of which clinics I actually visited, how long I was there, etc.
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Old 07-28-18, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
I really want to be a premium member just to show support - but there's really nothing in there I want. "Sort segment leaders by weight" ??? Who the hell cares about that?...
Yeah, I'm afraid that if I used Strava to sort by age and weight, I'd still be slow even by the lax standards for slow old guys.

Now, if Strava offered an option to sort my data relative to, say, 30something women, that could be interesting. Wait, what, I'm faster than a local woman pro on this downhill segment? Yay, a winner is me. I can outsprint a woman half my age for, oh, a mile downhill... before she drops me like a rock on the first climb.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Yeah, I'm afraid that if I used Strava to sort by age and weight, I'd still be slow even by the lax standards for slow old guys.

Now, if Strava offered an option to sort my data relative to, say, 30something women, that could be interesting. Wait, what, I'm faster than a local woman pro on this downhill segment? Yay, a winner is me. I can outsprint a woman half my age for, oh, a mile downhill... before she drops me like a rock on the first climb.
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Old 07-28-18, 06:53 PM
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Maybe they'll change it back to where everything is in chronological order but only for premium accounts.
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Old 07-28-18, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jimincalif
my thoughts exactly.
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Old 07-29-18, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Exactly. And I never race Jerry Lawler.
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Old 07-29-18, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
What would you miss if you switched to GarminConnect, TrainingPeaks, MapMyWhatever, or a million other options?
I'd miss all those annoying "someone stole your KOM" e-mails I get when someone forgets to end their ride before they drive home.
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Old 07-29-18, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I'd miss all those annoying "someone stole your KOM" e-mails I get when someone forgets to end their ride before they drive home.
Luckily I'm too slow to have bike KOMs, and most runners seem to actually use Garmins so that's not such an issue for me.

Now rides marked as runs, those I have to flag pretty much constantly.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Luckily I'm too slow to have bike KOMs, and most runners seem to actually use Garmins so that's not such an issue for me.

Now rides marked as runs, those I have to flag pretty much constantly.
i don’t flag the ride often. Usually I will ask the user to edit his ride for the portion of the ride recorded while driving.

I don’t have many KOMs, but the ones I do have are from when I was training for a 40km TT, and they are legit solo rides without wind assistance. I don’t mind losing them, but I’m not gonna lose them to some guy with a 71mph average speed for a 10 mile segment.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
What would you miss if you switched to GarminConnect, TrainingPeaks, MapMyWhatever, or a million other options? Not to mention more companies would come along if Strava got too annoying.
I'd miss 6 years of recorded data. I've got those other programs - don't use them much; and I don't use Strava for training - mostly just for record keeping and a little social networking. People made a big deal about dropping Facebook after recent scandals, but I don't see it happening because (I assume) people have too much invested in it to leave.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
i don’t flag the ride often. Usually I will ask the user to edit his ride for the portion of the ride recorded while driving.

I don’t have many KOMs, but the ones I do have are from when I was training for a 40km TT, and they are legit solo rides without wind assistance. I don’t mind losing them, but I’m not gonna lose them to some guy with a 71mph average speed for a 10 mile segment.
Same here on the running side; they're from marathon training. If I lose them legit, all's fair. If they go down to someone who "ran" 20 miles in 90 minutes and did 2-minute pace downhill, that's getting flagged.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Same here on the running side; they're from marathon training. If I lose them legit, all's fair. If they go down to someone who "ran" 20 miles in 90 minutes and did 2-minute pace downhill, that's getting flagged.
5 or 6 years ago I started losing KOMs to a 14 year old kid that barely tracked his rides on Strava, and I suspected he was just trolling cyclists(riding a scooter).

A few years later he won the U23 World Championship TT. Now I don’t feel so bad about getting crushed by the kid.
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It would be nice to have windspeed and direction added to segments
and a weekly monthly and yearly kom award to weed out the cheaters , and one timers . and maybe a way to add road mtb tt or ebike to each activity and seperate the leader boards by bike class..
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle
It would be nice to have windspeed and direction added to segments
and a weekly monthly and yearly kom award to weed out the cheaters , and one timers . and maybe a way to add road mtb tt or ebike to each activity and seperate the leader boards by bike class..

if you are that worried about being the fastest guy around, go pin on a number in your local TT.
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Will upgrading to premium fix my avg speed error? It just started doing this 2 rides ago. And my route is all jacked up.
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Will upgrading to premium fix my avg speed error? It just started doing this 2 rides ago. And my route is all jacked up.
You should make that a segment....kom
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You should make that a segment....kom
also the first thought in my head. That is awesome and funny at the same time.

I use strava for the segments and comparing with friends, other than that it has no value to me at all. Would never pay for it if I had to, would simply go without it.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
5 or 6 years ago I started losing KOMs to a 14 year old kid that barely tracked his rides on Strava, and I suspected he was just trolling cyclists(riding a scooter).

A few years later he won the U23 World Championship TT. Now I don’t feel so bad about getting crushed by the kid.
I don't send most of my rides to Strava. Only the ones that will affect their global heatmap.
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Old 07-30-18, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FromBeyond
Will upgrading to premium fix my avg speed error? It just started doing this 2 rides ago. And my route is all jacked up.
seems like a GPS error, maybe you broke that when you dropped your phone and broke the screen
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