Oof. I can see the future - you're going to heckle me...
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I tested this on my wife, who is not a bike nut. She guessed this bike was 30 years old. I’d say you did well. Nice work!
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how many bikes? sounds like you have them already
if you can get your hands on them fast enough the this velo orange stems looks closer https://velo-orange.com/collections/...stem-31-8-rise
or maybe find some thins similar
if you can get your hands on them fast enough the this velo orange stems looks closer https://velo-orange.com/collections/...stem-31-8-rise
or maybe find some thins similar
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Awesome, Thanks! They approved the build. This is not a "bike film" as it turns out, it's just the main mode of transportation for the protagonist.
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Not saying the following is the exact scenario, but here are a few potential reasons:
Hero bike, bike with camera rig mounted to it, hero bike for second unit, three bikes for destruction if first two takes don't work, fourth destruction bike pre-damaged to achieve proper visual effect following crash.
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Hero bike, bike with camera rig mounted to it, hero bike for second unit, three bikes for destruction if first two takes don't work, fourth destruction bike pre-damaged to achieve proper visual effect following crash.
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Yeah, The Head Tube is the angle that's hard to hide. Plus I know how y'all feel about non-drive side pictures. It's a mix of generations of 105, selected for availability in quantity. Thankfully.
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If it makes you feel any better though, The Americans did a crap job of keeping automobiles period correct: https://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?resu...y=2&id=2149175
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Well done! I’m generally not a fan of a sloping TT (like most of us here) but that’s a good looking bike. I’d ride it.
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This is great! Nice work, especially given the restraints. You could also easily remove those shiny bolts on the seatstay rack mounts. Not many vintage roadies had those. Btw, have you ever worked with Coco's Variety? Pretty cool little bike shop and prop rental place in LA that I have been following on Instagram for a while. I visited it when I was down there. They also appreciate the vintage.
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OP: End result not bad. Fortunately the front wheel is not radially laced. I think the frame tube diameter is less of a giveaway than the top tube slope, followed by the streamlined fork. But not bad. Only slightly worse than Dave Stoller riding on the small 'ring when drafting the truck.
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OP: End result not bad. Fortunately the front wheel is not radially laced. I think the frame tube diameter is less of a giveaway than the top tube slope, followed by the streamlined fork. But not bad. Only slightly worse than Dave Stoller riding on the small 'ring when drafting the truck.
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I got the task of turning 2019 Raleigh Grand Sports into late 70's "vintage" looking bikes for a movie... I have one day to do a test build for approval. I know.
If they had given me a couple weeks I could have found multiple actual vintage frames to build to the exact same spec (these will be one bike in the movie).
We're doing a drivetrain swap with earlier gen 105 stuff to change to silver groupo. I know, but it's our best option for multiple quantities of parts in this time frame. We are swapping over to Dia-Compe Non Aero Levers, but having the threadless stem is killing me visually. I'm currently thinking black to minimize visibility... Anyone have any recommendations for things in my control? Seriously, I know frame and fork are impossible to be made to mimic a traditional bike. The frames will be painted by the studio.
https://www.raleighusa.com/grand-sport
If they had given me a couple weeks I could have found multiple actual vintage frames to build to the exact same spec (these will be one bike in the movie).
We're doing a drivetrain swap with earlier gen 105 stuff to change to silver groupo. I know, but it's our best option for multiple quantities of parts in this time frame. We are swapping over to Dia-Compe Non Aero Levers, but having the threadless stem is killing me visually. I'm currently thinking black to minimize visibility... Anyone have any recommendations for things in my control? Seriously, I know frame and fork are impossible to be made to mimic a traditional bike. The frames will be painted by the studio.
https://www.raleighusa.com/grand-sport
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You should pull off some of the cogs. Hyperglide is enough of an anachronism, but 9/10/11 cogs on the back? If '70s, try 5, widely spaced unless the person riding it is supposed to be a racer. The cogs should fit fine next to each other and even shift well if they are good cogs like hyperglide or sram and not a cheap copy. You can use the spacer discs behind the cluster. Of course a cassette hub is also a dead giveaway, but that's harder to notice.
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You should pull off some of the cogs. Hyperglide is enough of an anachronism, but 9/10/11 cogs on the back? If '70s, try 5, widely spaced unless the person riding it is supposed to be a racer. The cogs should fit fine next to each other and even shift well if they are good cogs like hyperglide or sram and not a cheap copy. You can use the spacer discs behind the cluster. Of course a cassette hub is also a dead giveaway, but that's harder to notice.
You could put 11 cogs in the back of the Breaking Away replica Masi, shoot a duplicate closeup from one of the "chase the Ciznano" truck scenes, sneak it into the original movie with the right grading and film grain...and most people still wouldn't notice.
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No need to mess with the drivetrain if the rider is wearing 70's bell bottoms
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Nooooobody is going to notice this before they notice the fork, headtube, or angled top tube.
You could put 11 cogs in the back of the Breaking Away replica Masi, shoot a duplicate closeup from one of the "chase the Ciznano" truck scenes, sneak it into the original movie with the right grading and film grain...and most people still wouldn't notice.
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You could put 11 cogs in the back of the Breaking Away replica Masi, shoot a duplicate closeup from one of the "chase the Ciznano" truck scenes, sneak it into the original movie with the right grading and film grain...and most people still wouldn't notice.
-Kurt
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Reminds me of a mail order guitar place, their catalog that I saw in a library in the early '80s. One page was a very fine-line, crosshatched sketch of one of the store personnel playing a guitar, and the caption said, "This picture might look a little strange because I normally don't use a thin pick."
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I got the task of turning 2019 Raleigh Grand Sports into late 70's "vintage" looking bikes for a movie... I have one day to do a test build for approval. I know.
If they had given me a couple weeks I could have found multiple actual vintage frames to build to the exact same spec (these will be one bike in the movie).
We're doing a drivetrain swap with earlier gen 105 stuff to change to silver groupo. I know, but it's our best option for multiple quantities of parts in this time frame. We are swapping over to Dia-Compe Non Aero Levers, but having the threadless stem is killing me visually. I'm currently thinking black to minimize visibility... Anyone have any recommendations for things in my control? Seriously, I know frame and fork are impossible to be made to mimic a traditional bike. The frames will be painted by the studio.
https://www.raleighusa.com/grand-sport
If they had given me a couple weeks I could have found multiple actual vintage frames to build to the exact same spec (these will be one bike in the movie).
We're doing a drivetrain swap with earlier gen 105 stuff to change to silver groupo. I know, but it's our best option for multiple quantities of parts in this time frame. We are swapping over to Dia-Compe Non Aero Levers, but having the threadless stem is killing me visually. I'm currently thinking black to minimize visibility... Anyone have any recommendations for things in my control? Seriously, I know frame and fork are impossible to be made to mimic a traditional bike. The frames will be painted by the studio.
https://www.raleighusa.com/grand-sport
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Down the Road... I've got some nice boxes as a parting gift. Like a Tiffany's box for a C&V bike girl right? She'll be thoroughly impressed when she finds she was actually gifted Claris Take-Offs...
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