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Your call for the best tyres re: RR and Puncture Resistance?
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Between GP5ks and Corsas, for fewer punctures I'd go with the former. I have both, and I LOVE the Corsas - at the same pressures, they're so much smoother riding that I sometimes look down to see if they're flat. The problem is, occasionally they are, a little bit more often than the Contis on the same roads.
I should note that where I ride sidewall cuts are generally not an issue, but glass bits are. And rocks that cause pinch flats, because I am a pothole and rock magnet. If there's a bump, a pothole, or a rock, I'll find it.
I should note that where I ride sidewall cuts are generally not an issue, but glass bits are. And rocks that cause pinch flats, because I am a pothole and rock magnet. If there's a bump, a pothole, or a rock, I'll find it.
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I've heard of this zaney new science lol, I like 25c tyres..
Hmm well, I dunno about wanting cruise'y comfort... I like the feeling of a well pumped tyre; feeling all the individual grains in the road, I put up with the harder bumps - I had an aluminium frame until I recently went to steel and I expect the new frame to sufficiently dampen bumps to make a difference for my tastes - I don't think I want smoothness no, just no resistance, just want gravity and power to decide the speed, not friction or a stodgy tread or compound
Hmm well, I dunno about wanting cruise'y comfort... I like the feeling of a well pumped tyre; feeling all the individual grains in the road, I put up with the harder bumps - I had an aluminium frame until I recently went to steel and I expect the new frame to sufficiently dampen bumps to make a difference for my tastes - I don't think I want smoothness no, just no resistance, just want gravity and power to decide the speed, not friction or a stodgy tread or compound
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But generally my inner tubes have failed more than the tyres - I like as firm a ride as possible so I generally put as much air as I can into the tubes and they eventually fail. The last three tubes I went through: Giant, gunshot like pop that ruptured my tyres (og GIANT tyres); huge swelling that mishaped the tyre (og GIANT tyres); big, if not quite giant, pop (well worn continental tyres).
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If a tire ruptures, it isn't the fault of the inner tube. By itself the tube cannot contain high pressure, rather it is the job of the tire to contain the inner tube. A gunshot type failure is a result of either a failure of the tire casing or of the tire bead blowing off the rim.
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Though it's unclear what Michelin has done with the Power series of bike tires. Going by Michelin's bike website, a lot of the previous "Power" series tires aren't shown anymore (Power Endurance, Power Protection, Power All Season, etc)
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I always wondered if part of leg-shaving was because the glue for tubulars gets in your leg hair and is a mess to get out.
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I just retired a Corsa with under 300 miles because of a cut that won't seal completely and started bulging. Upon inspection I found multiple other cuts, although they were holding their shape and air. Too bad, because I really liked the ride quality on them. I don't think I have ever used Conti 5000's but I don't see why they would be much different considering they have the same purpose in mind. I don't ride on gnarly roads, but they're not perfect either. For that reason, I just bought a set of American Classic "armor" Timekeepers to try, and if I don't like them will go back to the trusty Gatorskins because too many flats really take the joy out of riding.
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I blame my word choice I guess, but really since long before I made this thread - whole years in fact - I've just wanted a zero drag roll.. and in my head feeling the road ... Grundle on under my tyres is part of a sensation of .. surface ignorant speed... I give up lol
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What are some opinions on Pirelli P Zero? TlR or clincher? Some YouTube guys say they like them better then GP5000 for great all around tires.
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I would have got them in a heartbeat but they cost double what gp5000s and vittorias do where I live... The specialized ones that are apparently also really good simply aren't here (Japan)
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They're certainly in the conversation for the best all-arounders that I've tried and I'd say that it's splitting hairs when it comes to ride characteristics (I don't think they're as supple as the Pro One Evo Addix, but I think they're the most grippy that I've tried in the last few years, tests show that they give up a couple/few watts to some of the others). They installed easily and seated with just a floor pump. I've got about 2k miles on them - the rear is starting to square, but I don't think that it'll have a problem getting to 3k, which is good for a high performance tire for me.
I haven't tried the Conti - the previous TL isn't compatible with my rims and I haven't gotten around to the S TR, yet.
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I'm currently running the TLRs in 28mm - I've posted about them in the Favorite Tubeless Tires thread.
They're certainly in the conversation for the best all-arounders that I've tried and I'd say that it's splitting hairs when it comes to ride characteristics (I don't think they're as supple as the Pro One Evo Addix, but I think they're the most grippy that I've tried in the last few years, tests show that they give up a couple/few watts to some of the others). They installed easily and seated with just a floor pump. I've got about 2k miles on them - the rear is starting to square, but I don't think that it'll have a problem getting to 3k, which is good for a high performance tire for me.
I haven't tried the Conti - the previous TL isn't compatible with my rims and I haven't gotten around to the S TR, yet.
They're certainly in the conversation for the best all-arounders that I've tried and I'd say that it's splitting hairs when it comes to ride characteristics (I don't think they're as supple as the Pro One Evo Addix, but I think they're the most grippy that I've tried in the last few years, tests show that they give up a couple/few watts to some of the others). They installed easily and seated with just a floor pump. I've got about 2k miles on them - the rear is starting to square, but I don't think that it'll have a problem getting to 3k, which is good for a high performance tire for me.
I haven't tried the Conti - the previous TL isn't compatible with my rims and I haven't gotten around to the S TR, yet.
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I found them here for less than the 5000s. Even with shipping to the USA.
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FYI, most, if not all, of the new performance tires that are coming out are ETRTO compliant, so mounting experience should be similar - I've been able to mount them all with just a floor pump. The GP5k TL are not compliant, which is why (I think) the S TR refresh came through relatively quickly.
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FYI, most, if not all, of the new performance tires that are coming out are ETRTO compliant, so mounting experience should be similar - I've been able to mount them all with just a floor pump. The GP5k TL are not compliant, which is why (I think) the S TR refresh came through relatively quickly.
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I liked them (Race TLR 30 mm version), except for me they punctured too easily and I had to retire both very early in their life (under 500 km I think from memory). I could have just been incredibly unlucky, but I haven't had such issues with other similar tyres. I'm currently using GP5000S TR and they are unscathed after 1400 km on rough roads. Nice feel and solid grip too.
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I liked them (Race TLR 30 mm version), except for me they punctured too easily and I had to retire both very early in their life (under 500 km I think from memory). I could have just been incredibly unlucky, but I haven't had such issues with other similar tyres. I'm currently using GP5000S TR and they are unscathed after 1400 km on rough roads. Nice feel and solid grip too.
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I love the gp5000 in 23/25/28mm ( what ever is on sale ) if I am trying/wanting to go fast. I can't ride them daily, too many flats tubes or tubeless. I prefer gravel king slicks 32mm for daily solo rides.
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and is 23/25/28 mm to 32mm a good direct comparison ? (for your use - answer might be yes almost entirely due to increased size of the GK slick ?)
Have no experience with GP 5000 (but do currently have a pair on the way) - but was not overly impressed with the tread thickness and reports/reviews on the GK slick (and purchased GK SS instead)
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I replaced both Vittoria Corsa G+ 2.0 tires because they both had sidewall punctures. Both tires also had lots of tread left. Comfortable tires but weak sidewalls. Never had that problem with Conti 4000s.