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04-08-20, 06:50 AM
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04-08-20, 06:54 AM
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04-08-20, 06:54 AM
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04-08-20, 06:56 AM
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04-08-20, 07:12 AM
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The bands from my HS era were the Stones, Beatles, Doors, Moody Blues, Hendrix, Cream, Deep Purple, Animals, Led Zeppelin, Steppenwolf, Kinks, Hollies, REO Speedwagon, just to name a few. I don't think I could pick any favorite single songs. It was a magic time to live through with a lot of wild stuff happening daily and also that thing going on over in SE Asia. Exciting and scary times, both. Glad that I lived it and yes, I do remember it.
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04-08-20, 07:17 AM
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04-08-20, 07:17 AM
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04-08-20, 07:33 AM
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04-08-20, 07:46 AM
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we already do that.
04-08-20, 07:52 AM
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I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
04-08-20, 08:05 AM
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I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
A part of it is how you're built, a part is how you train. The speed with which I recover from aerobic efforts is one of my big yardsticks for fitness - it's a very notable difference between early season and late summer.
04-08-20, 08:10 AM
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I'm working and I've been riding so much I already need a rest week.
04-08-20, 08:13 AM
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Seems the big problem is recovering from ANAEROBIC efforts.
04-08-20, 08:16 AM
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I just did another virtual ride on Zwift.
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
I have a question for people who have trained more with power. I notice that I can ride say "easy-all day" at something like Zone 2, no problem....Zone 3, mildly hard but can still maintain for a long time. Getting into Zone 4 is fine for a few minutes but I can't sustain it indefinitely, and of course Zone 5 is short term. I think that's "normal."
The problem is on Zwift, sometimes there is a sprint or a hill and I have to go beyond Zone 5, say 140-200% of FTP. I do that as best I can for several seconds to bridge the gap or not get dropped....but once I do that effort, even staying in Zone 3 is hard for me. I feel totally shot and have to drop to Zone 1 for a few minutes to recover. What happens on Zwift is that I burn matches, bridge the gap, only to get dropped because I can't maintain Zone 2/3.
It's hard to say how much of this weakness is mental and how much is physiologic, I suspect it's both.
Any comments or advice?
04-08-20, 08:17 AM
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Don't you think it's because you can't effectively lighten your load? At least that's what I always feel when on a trainer. It's that constant pressure all the time even when you try to ease up.
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04-08-20, 08:19 AM
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FTR, I graduated HS in 1969. I'm not sure anyone here is older than me. Billy? Seeds?
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04-08-20, 08:21 AM
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My wife are going to...
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
See ya' after the ride.
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way
See ya' after the ride.
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04-08-20, 08:22 AM
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04-08-20, 08:23 AM
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04-08-20, 08:25 AM
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04-08-20, 08:28 AM
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