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Old 07-18-17, 04:09 PM
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Those gum hoods you spent so much time and effort searching out, the last pair in stock wherever you found them? One will tear during the install.
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This is our tribal tattoo. You've either had or are going to have one; embrace it



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Phlatt's law: The more time and distance traveled without getting a flat tire the more likely you are to have another puncture immediately after repairing the first. Usually on the same tube, and completely unrelated to the initial loss of inner tube integrity.
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I just coined a new one today after working on my Karakoram. It's a play on "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Mine goes " IF IT'S SEMI-BROKE, DON'T FIX IT". Let's just say it went from bad to worse.
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Originally Posted by EnzoRWD
for my C&V bikes- everytime I'm looking for a part and I give up and either: buy something different or pay way too much, I immediately seeing a dozen examples for sale at excellent prices. Grrr.
Also: When you see parts for a sweet price but pass on them because you don't have any bikes that the parts will fit, you will soon come into possession of a bike that needs said parts. At which time, said parts will only be available at much higher prices.
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Originally Posted by nashvillebill
Yep, just paid $35 for a bike but...needed $115 for chainrings, chain, and cassette. At least I had replacement cranks in the parts bin.
At this point, you rationalize, "Well, I got a great deal on the drive train, and only needed $35 to complete the build!"
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Originally Posted by liddokun
less riding=less maintenance=more riding?
Sadly, no. If you're not riding, and there's nothing that needs fixing, a project will appear to consume spare time and money.


My own theory of leisure:
When you're working overtime, you will have spare money, but no time or energy to spend on your hobbies.
When you're unemployed, you will have spare time and energy, but no money to spend on your hobbies.

Dad's corollary:
When you're retired, you'll have modest spare money, enough spare time, but not enough energy to spend on your hobbies.
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OK here is a variation on the theme of losing stuff. I purchased some Victory parts that needed cleaning. Like usual, I didn't really pay attention to all the parts once the assembly was broken down. In this case it was the DT shifters.

I cleaned, polished, etc. each part. It was ready to put together. As is my typical approach. I placed the parts in the a manner that would help me make sure I had all the parts in the right order. A washer was missing. Great. I didn't remember having checked all the parts as I processed them, just assumed they were all there.

Well I didn't want to leave the assembly in parts so a brilliant thought came to mind. Use a dime to replace the washer. Pulled one out of my pocket and checked against the one I did have. It needed the hole, of course and a little trimming to get the diameter reduced to fit in the shifter. Did that.
[IMG]P1040755, on Flickr[/IMG]

Final assembly:
[IMG]P1040756, on Flickr[/IMG]

This was done in February. Two weeks ago (July) I am taking the garbage out and look down in the rocks next to the driveway pad and see this round object. Looked like a dime........with Campagnolo stamped on it.

Point is, when you compensate for a loss, you will find what is missing eventually, as others have shared.

BTW, it is not lost on me that the dime was less money than a replacement Campagnolo part.
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When a family friend finds out you are into bikes, and mentions "they have some old bikes in the shed", they will invariably be lower-end junk. Corollary: They will then ask you to fix them up for the kids.
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
When a family friend finds out you are into bikes, and mentions "they have some old bikes in the shed", they will invariably be lower-end junk. Corollary: They will then ask you to fix them up for the kids.
I had a coworker who said, "You can argue that something is impossible or doesn't make sense until you're blue in the face, or you can say, 'Here's what it will cost'". That was in respect to customers who said, "I need 5 nines uptime (99.999%)" Really? 5 minutes of downtime a year? Ok, here's what it will cost...
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Originally Posted by gugie
Gugie's Deepest, darkest corner of the shop law:

Where all of the QR skewer springs, as well as any small, odd and/or rare bits end up when you drop them.
I bought a big bag of skewer springs at a swap meet (There had to be at least 500 in it!) because I got tired dropping them where they bounce off into another dimension. Now that I have that bag, I haven't lost a single one.
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Old 07-19-17, 11:53 AM
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I like this. Very much.

Originally Posted by SJX426

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No matter how many 3rd or 4th hand tools you may possess you will always find yourself wishing you had an extra hand-or 3- when working on C&V bikes.
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To the people dropping things..... This should be a no brainer but....I actually started to follow and track dropped items in mid air. Kinda like catching a popup. Instead of just dropping something next time, letting it land and then trying to find it where ever it lands, try tracking the item midflight. It sounds stupid but it works. It has really helped not as lose as many screws, bearings, etc on a completely bare floor.
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Originally Posted by KDTX
To the people dropping things..... This should be a no brainer but....I actually started to follow and track dropped items in mid air. Kinda like catching a popup. Instead of just dropping something next time, letting it land and then trying to find it where ever it lands, try tracking the item midflight. It sounds stupid but it works. It has really helped not as lose as many screws, bearings, etc on a completely bare floor.
My cats do that. And they're faster than me.
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When on an "out and back" ride where you have a headwind going out, it will surely shift and be in your face on the return.
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When swapping bottle cages from bike to bike you will plan on dropping screws, allen wrench and bottle cage on the floor, sometimes all at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
This is our tribal tattoo. You've either had or are going to have one; embrace it



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And on your best jeans when going for that casual autumn ride.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
When on an "out and back" ride where you have a headwind going out, it will surely shift and be in your face on the return.
1,000 times YES on this. Heck, just commuting in Seattle in general. It's as if the wind changes direction per street.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
When on an "out and back" ride where you have a headwind going out, it will surely shift and be in your face on the return.
That happens to me on my commute most days. I have a wicked headwind in the morning. The wind shifts midday, and I have a mild headwind in the evening. I would trade the wind for hills if I could.
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Originally Posted by exmechanic89
How about if you drop a small part on your carpet it will always never been seen again, no matter how much you search.
Tube's corollary: your wife will find said part by stepping on it and ask if you've been working on bikes in the living room again."
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After cleaning bb or hs and during packing the new grease, the Tony Tele (TT) law goes into affect: the Cell phone rings and it's located in your pocket. So hands have grease or your latex gloves have grease neither one is fun.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
...Use a dime to replace the washer. Pulled one out of my pocket and checked against the one I did have. It needed the hole, of course and a little trimming to get the diameter reduced to fit in the shifter. Did that.
I used a similar approach on a motorcycle repair. You know the little sight glass on a bike's front brake master cylinder attached to the brake lever? Plastic. Plastic that eventually degrades from UV when the bike lives outside and then begins to leak brake fluid. I drained the cylinder, removed all the plastic fragments and began casting about for a suitable plug. Did not need to be transparent so the closest fit was a French 5 centime coin, smaller than a dime. Still needed to have the edges ground down a tiny bit but served admirably.
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Originally Posted by noglider
That happens to me on my commute most days. I have a wicked headwind in the morning. The wind shifts midday, and I have a mild headwind in the evening. I would trade the wind for hills if I could.
Headwinds are a most deceptive and demoralizing force. But then, when else can you cram a good 30mi ride into 20??
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