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Old 12-17-19, 09:47 PM
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The rear wheel looks the same as the front, so better fret about that too.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
And we're sure the loud noise wasn't just the tire seating? It can be startling to people who are new to this.
I have no idea.

Over-reaction is a family trait.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
The rear wheel looks the same as the front, so better fret about that too.
That's why I asked him to send me a picture of it. I thought it was a good positive control.

I can't even find any seams on my Belgium + rims.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
How far is the commute? What are/is his backup commute options?

1. A few miles.

2. Bus.
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Old 12-18-19, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Over-reaction is a family trait.
Bikeforums is a good place to come then.
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I can't even find any seams on my Belgium + rims.
They are usually exactly opposite the valve stem.

Is it possible that older rims would be pinned, and newer ones welded? Fakes?
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I was talking to a good friend yesterday who is an authority on the topic of bike wheels and rims.

He mentioned this very thing ! Specifically in the earlier HED rims. Said it usually was caused by over-inflation. pump tires up to 130 psi, a couple inflation cycles to very high pressure, these cracks start to appear.

I think this is an excellent case study regarding life cycle expectations we have of very light equipment. Despite the high cost, it may not last forever, and certainly will not absorb crash damage or other misuse / neglect.

don't ride it.

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Old 12-18-19, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wgscott
1. A few miles. 2. Bus.
that's tuff. hope he has easy access to an LBS
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
that's tuff. hope he has easy access to an LBS
He does. He can get to Universal Cycles fairly easily from where he lives.
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
I was talking to a good friend yesterday who is an authority on the topic of bike wheels and rims.

He mentioned this very thing ! Specifically in the earlier HED rims. Said it usually was caused by over-inflation. pump tires up to 130 psi, a couple inflation cycles to very high pressure, these cracks start to appear.

I think this is an excellent case study regarding life cycle expectations we have of very light equipment. Despite the high cost, it may not last forever, and certainly will not absorb crash damage or other misuse / neglect.

don't ride it.

Mark Petry
Bainbridge Island, WA USA

I don't think he (or I) over-inflate by any stretch of the imagination, but I get the point about the fragility.
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Old 12-18-19, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wgscott
He does. He can get to Universal Cycles fairly easily from where he lives.
Portland?

There is also a bike coop within a couple of blocks of Universal Cycles. And, I think that one buys and sells. Sometimes a bit high on the prices, but they typically have a good selection.
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Rim ok/not ok

Am I off base here? Deflate, and put a pair of hands on it. if still unsure take the tire tube and rim tape and try again. Does it feel/look solidly in one piece? Then if not sure do the other recommendations...
I mean this isn't mysterious like carbon apparently can be. Or am I wrong?
Regards, Eric
Don't shops/mfrs worry about liability and thus often just say "replace"?
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Pic not sharp enough, lighting not good enough to evaluate over the internet.
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Old 12-18-19, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Last ride 76
Am I off base here? Deflate, and put a pair of hands on it. if still unsure take the tire tube and rim tape and try again. Does it feel/look solidly in one piece? Then if not sure do the other recommendations...
I mean this isn't mysterious like carbon apparently can be. Or am I wrong?
Regards, Eric
Don't shops/mfrs worry about liability and thus often just say "replace"?
Nobody in this thread wants first-hand experience (such as a careful inspection) which would reveal exactly what this is. Thus we have this third-, fourth-, fifth-hand "discussion" full of absolutes and pontification. Never mind that this exact question has been asked here repeatedly and answered definitively. Never mind that rims don't crack that way. Never mind that many rims are constructed in precisely the way depicted and that's easy to confirm -- again by first-hand experience (nobody wants that). Never mind that such rims have racked up billions of safe miles.

The stupider the internet gets, the more the chattering class relies on it.
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Originally Posted by AnkleWork
Nobody in this thread wants first-hand experience (such as a careful inspection) which would reveal exactly what this is.
You might want to get your glasses checked. I stated in the O.P. I told him to have it checked in a bike shop, and several others posting here said the same thing.

If you don't want to bother reading the thread, that's perfectly fine, but why waste your time typing if you have nothing to contribute?

Originally Posted by wgscott
I told him to get it checked by a mechanic before he rides it. Am I being an over-cautious parent, or is this a concern?
Originally Posted by guy153
I would avoid riding it except very carefully to the bike shop.
Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
But for peace of mind have it inspected hands-on,
Originally Posted by easyupbug
I would agree not good for anything but an easy ride to a shop or what could be an exciting ride to work.
Originally Posted by delbiker1
Only makes sense to get it checked out by someone experienced enough to know what the condition is.
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost
I'd certainly not ride it much without getting some good, knowledgeable opinions.
The un-intended irony is kind of dimly amusing:
Originally Posted by AnkleWork
The stupider the internet gets, the more the chattering class relies on it.

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Old 12-18-19, 03:49 PM
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Rims sometimes have a seam that's noticeable. It's rarely problem unless it catches the brake pades which would cause them to wear quickly. I see a Disc brake rotor, so it's not an issue here.
So, I suspect it's just fine to ride, but as already determined, first hand inspection by experienced eyes is recommended.

Rim failure is rare, and is not catastrophic the way fork or frame failure is.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
You might want to get your glasses checked. I stated in the O.P. I told him to have it checked in a bike shop, and several others posting here said the same thing.

If you don't want to bother reading the thread, that's perfectly fine, but why waste your time typing if you have nothing to contribute?

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The un-intended irony is kind of dimly amusing:
"first-hand" -- sorry to have to explain it to you.
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WTH wgscott? You ask for advice or opinion on the safety of the wheel, and then get offended when members give you what was asked for. Don't bother posting if you don't want you asked for.
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Originally Posted by delbiker1
WTH wgscott? You ask for advice or opinion on the safety of the wheel, and then get offended when members give you what was asked for. Don't bother posting if you don't want you asked for.
If you read the thread, you will see that I thanked most of the posters individually, with replies, or at least with the "Like" button. I did this for a variety of viewpoints offered. Also, my post number 12 explicitly says "thanks, everyone." Words that can only be mistaken with considerable effort.

To whatever degree you wish to read "offended" into this, I was a bit surprised that the post in question ignored all of the suggestions (including mine) for a first-hand inspection by a bicycle mechanic/shop. There were at least six instances of that.

Someone comes along at the end and clearly has read nothing and offers nothing, apart from insulting everyone who took the time and made the effort to offer sincere (and from my point of view, very much-appreciated, advice). I simply corrected his misinformation. I didn't pass judgement. Some people need to convince themselves that everyone else is a snowflake in order to give their lives some meaning (presumably the motivation for the troll sig line).

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The only non-crash rim failures I've ever had were from cracking at the spoke nipples. And that just causes the rim to slowly go out of true.
Of all the things on a bike that can break, rims are just about the least risky.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
The only non-crash rim failures I've ever had were from cracking at the spoke nipples. And that just causes the rim to slowly go out of true.
Of all the things on a bike that can break, rims are just about the least risky.
Thanks, and thank you for bringing this back on topic.

FWIW I'm going to get him a new wheel (or set) for x-mas.

Please feel free to close the thread.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Thanks, and thank you for bringing this back on topic.

FWIW I'm going to get him a new wheel (or set) for x-mas.

Please feel free to close the thread.
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