Getting past the butt pain...? (Longer rides)
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Getting past the butt pain...? (Longer rides)
I ride to work twice a week right now. 23 miles each way. And once in the morning on the weekend. Which will either be a 30 mile ride or a 46 mile ride. Depending on the amount of time I have. So I basically get 5 decent rides in a week.
My butt starts to hurt at anything over 30 miles. But dosn't get annoying to the 50 mile mark. But when I ride to work and back, it hurts the whole ride home. Something about riding twice in a day that makes the second ride uncomfortable. I always wear bike shorts and my seat is decently comfortable. The bike hasn't been "professionally" fit. But I feel I fit it pretty well myself.
Do I just need more time in the saddle to build up butt strength? Lol.... I really don't want to use the lotion or creams. I feel like they would bother me even more.
I want to start doing some longer rides. Hopefully 100+ miles. I want to do some 3-4 day 100+ mile a day tours as well. Most likely with a 3 hour break mid day. So I'm curious how can I ease this portion of the challenge. Thicker padded bike shorts? Super expensive seat? Sell my couch and just sit on pine cones?
My butt starts to hurt at anything over 30 miles. But dosn't get annoying to the 50 mile mark. But when I ride to work and back, it hurts the whole ride home. Something about riding twice in a day that makes the second ride uncomfortable. I always wear bike shorts and my seat is decently comfortable. The bike hasn't been "professionally" fit. But I feel I fit it pretty well myself.
Do I just need more time in the saddle to build up butt strength? Lol.... I really don't want to use the lotion or creams. I feel like they would bother me even more.
I want to start doing some longer rides. Hopefully 100+ miles. I want to do some 3-4 day 100+ mile a day tours as well. Most likely with a 3 hour break mid day. So I'm curious how can I ease this portion of the challenge. Thicker padded bike shorts? Super expensive seat? Sell my couch and just sit on pine cones?
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If you have commuted a few times a week for 23 miles one way for a few months or more and still have butt pain, you really should start checking out other saddles. If you are close to a large bike shop with a good selection, try to find the most knowledgeable sales person they have. If you are there when they are not too busy, that is even better - avoid busy times on weekends.
And, ask him or her to assess how you look on the bike, is your saddle too high or low (most likely it is fine if you do not have knee pain) and if the saddle is to far forward or too far back.
If you want to try a leather saddle, Walbike has a good return policy if it does not work out, check them out. I have never bought from them, so I can't answer questions on how it works, I am only citing what I have heard on their return policy.
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And, ask him or her to assess how you look on the bike, is your saddle too high or low (most likely it is fine if you do not have knee pain) and if the saddle is to far forward or too far back.
If you want to try a leather saddle, Walbike has a good return policy if it does not work out, check them out. I have never bought from them, so I can't answer questions on how it works, I am only citing what I have heard on their return policy.
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Using what saddle? I find a lot of saddles are OK for 30-50 miles but painful on longer rides. Most comfy saddles were cheap sport-touring saddles that were narrow enough but included decent cushion.
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23 miles each way, that's quite a commute!
How long have you been doing this? If you're relatively new to riding, there may be some conditioning that you just don't have yet.
I can't say what's wrong, but if it's not a matter of conditioning, then it's a matter of setup (which includes the saddle and the shorts). I think it takes new cyclists a while to figure out what a good fit feels like and what "comfort" means when on the bike, and what works for each individual. I mean, I know most cyclists wear "bike shorts" and believe in them. But my regular work pants and a hard leather saddle are best for me on my commute as well as when doing long distance rides or tours. I've never found bike-specific pants that make my ride better. So... sadly, I suggest you're going to have to figure it out for yourself. Change something; see how it feels. If that doesn't help, change something else. Keep trying, and... good luck!
How long have you been doing this? If you're relatively new to riding, there may be some conditioning that you just don't have yet.
I can't say what's wrong, but if it's not a matter of conditioning, then it's a matter of setup (which includes the saddle and the shorts). I think it takes new cyclists a while to figure out what a good fit feels like and what "comfort" means when on the bike, and what works for each individual. I mean, I know most cyclists wear "bike shorts" and believe in them. But my regular work pants and a hard leather saddle are best for me on my commute as well as when doing long distance rides or tours. I've never found bike-specific pants that make my ride better. So... sadly, I suggest you're going to have to figure it out for yourself. Change something; see how it feels. If that doesn't help, change something else. Keep trying, and... good luck!
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This….Works for me. Commuting, recreational rides, long days in the saddle touring, and even longer days riding a pedicab. Proper fit, hard leather saddle, regular pants or shorts. G'luck !
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My commute from home is similar to yours (~24 miles). I also only do it 2 to 3 times a week during spring to fall. Have you measured your sit bones (ischial tuberosities)? Maybe try sitting on a sheet of tinfoil on a stair or chair with very little or no padding. Once you know the distance in mm, then it will help you select the saddle width (add about 20mm more). In general, do you feel your sit bones engaging the padding when you slide back on the saddle? I feel that on mine and have a relatively flat wider saddle with a cutout. I actually stole my wife's saddle and kept using it. So I'd guess I'd need around a 140mm saddle width (the Terry Butterfly that I have is actually wider I think). I used to use Concor and Selle Turbo saddles in the past. But had pereneum pressure issues (like pain and the little guy going numb) in the past. Wider saddle made a big difference for me.
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I agree you should measure your sitbones.
If you're new to riding that kind of mileage, you'll probably toughen up, but if your saddle doesn't fit, you will always have problems. Consider trying a different one. Doesn't have to be expensive. I recall people used to ride 500/wk on the old Turbo saddles with no problems, but it depends on if it fits you. More cushion in saddles doesn't really help over long distances.
Sometimes better shorts are better.
Also, reconsider the use of a small amount of chamois cream.
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Touring? Cut your self some slack, get off the bike every couple hours and walk around a little .
stop for snacks or something.. It's Not a Race.
stop for snacks or something.. It's Not a Race.
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When I first started riding 20+ miles at a time, I would bring along the necessary tools to do saddle adjustments while riding. That helped a bit. I did a 65 mile ride, my butt was really sore for a few days, then it toughened up and I rarely have had pain since then. It'll get better with time.
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Putting in the miles helps toughen the backside, but how to tell if one just needs more miles or the saddle just doesn't fit well (assuming one has already checked sit-bone width)? Lots of tourists don't have much time for all-day training rides, after all. Anyway I'd think about either a leather saddle or a plastic touring saddle with at least moderate amount of padding. Worst saddle pain was with a Selle San Marco Regal; I ignored posters who said it was hard as a rock & on a century ride it hurt a bunch. Leather is ideal if it fits with built-in suspension yet smooth surface that doesn't cause chafing.
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Putting in the miles helps toughen the backside, but how to tell if one just needs more miles or the saddle just doesn't fit well (assuming one has already checked sit-bone width)? Lots of tourists don't have much time for all-day training rides, after all. Anyway I'd think about either a leather saddle or a plastic touring saddle with at least moderate amount of padding. Worst saddle pain was with a Selle San Marco Regal; I ignored posters who said it was hard as a rock & on a century ride it hurt a bunch. Leather is ideal if it fits with built-in suspension yet smooth surface that doesn't cause chafing.
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I ride to work twice a week right now. 23 miles each way. And once in the morning on the weekend. Which will either be a 30 mile ride or a 46 mile ride. Depending on the amount of time I have. So I basically get 5 decent rides in a week.
My butt starts to hurt at anything over 30 miles. But dosn't get annoying to the 50 mile mark. But when I ride to work and back, it hurts the whole ride home. Something about riding twice in a day that makes the second ride uncomfortable. I always wear bike shorts and my seat is decently comfortable. The bike hasn't been "professionally" fit. But I feel I fit it pretty well myself.
Do I just need more time in the saddle to build up butt strength? Lol.... I really don't want to use the lotion or creams. I feel like they would bother me even more.
I want to start doing some longer rides. Hopefully 100+ miles. I want to do some 3-4 day 100+ mile a day tours as well. Most likely with a 3 hour break mid day. So I'm curious how can I ease this portion of the challenge. Thicker padded bike shorts? Super expensive seat? Sell my couch and just sit on pine cones?
My butt starts to hurt at anything over 30 miles. But dosn't get annoying to the 50 mile mark. But when I ride to work and back, it hurts the whole ride home. Something about riding twice in a day that makes the second ride uncomfortable. I always wear bike shorts and my seat is decently comfortable. The bike hasn't been "professionally" fit. But I feel I fit it pretty well myself.
Do I just need more time in the saddle to build up butt strength? Lol.... I really don't want to use the lotion or creams. I feel like they would bother me even more.
I want to start doing some longer rides. Hopefully 100+ miles. I want to do some 3-4 day 100+ mile a day tours as well. Most likely with a 3 hour break mid day. So I'm curious how can I ease this portion of the challenge. Thicker padded bike shorts? Super expensive seat? Sell my couch and just sit on pine cones?
Can you post a photo of your bicycle?
What kind of bicycle is it?
Are your handlebars higher than your saddle?
What hurts?
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I'd say wrong width saddle.
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I was getting butt pain about 300km into my recent 400k. Then I would readjust my seating position and it would go away. I tend to ride too far back on the saddle, so I suppose it's like having the wrong width saddle
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Maybe you might like your saddle farther back on the seatpost? Worse case could try a different seatpost with some setback if there's not enough wiggle room already. I like to slide back on the saddle when climbing hills. But I only use it on those times or sparingly otherwise. So I guess the fore-aft is ok for me.
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