imabeliever1

Traded for a 66 Paramount. Great bike that I’ll be going thru this winter.
My only concern are the straight walled rims.
I’m considering the Panaracer Pasela tires. I ran these on another bike with hooked rims and they rode well.
So, if you have personal experience running Panaracer’s on straight sided rims, would like to hear your experience.

thanks

SurferRosa

I mounted some 1" Pasales on 27" hookless rims, but had I to do it again, I'd go wider to 1 1/8", so I could run them at lower pressure and feel a little more safe at speed in the turns.

Wire bead might be better here.

daka

I have 27 x 1 1/4 wire-bead Paselas on several bikes with straight-sided rims. Pump them up to 70 psi. Have done the same with Continental Super and Ultra Sport tires. No problems and a nice ride. Narrower tires may need more pressure than is prudent with straight-sided rims. I don't think I'd try foldable tires with those rims either.

merziac

Pics or it didn't happen.

You can't just tease us like that, when you say "66 Paramount", you have many here's undivided attention, especially mine.

I have a possible 30's but likely 40's, 2-3 50's, several 70's but no 60's yet, one of the 50's is a 59 and it has the hallmarks like the 58 so......

No 60's yet and not for lack of trying.

tallbikeman

As I recall 70psi is about as high as you want to go with a good quality tire on a hookless rim. They will blow off if too much pressure is used. When the hooked rims came out in the 70's or so I traded over to them and you could then run 100+psi. Owned a 71 Schwinn Paramount racing model, bought it new. Great bicycle.

Trakhak

Many people seem to believe that Kevlar-beaded tires are more prone to blowing off rims than wired-bead tires, but I don't remember that being the case when I worked in bike stores. When our mechanics complained to a sales rep that a particular tire model was impossible to mount without using tools (he argued that they were wrong and then tried and failed to install the tire himself), it was a Kevlar-beaded tire. The same tire with a wire bead installed with little effort.

daverup 

I've got Araya 27x1 1/4 W/O hookless rims on a 78 Schwinn and a 83 Schwinn. I run the Panaracer Pasela 27x 1 1/8 wire bead tires on both of them without any issues. I've used the 27x 1 1/4 Panaracer Pasela wire bead on another 1x1 1/4 rim bike and not been happy with the fit, it was more difficult to get seated straight.
On my hookless rim bikes I will initially inflate to 70psi and leave them that way for a while. Going to 80psi has not been any problem after they have been mounted a few weeks.
The biggest complaint i've heard about the Panaracer Pasela is that it is slow. It is a nice cruiser tire.

non-fixie 

In my limited experience those kevlar(?) beads used in folding tires stretch more than the steel ones used in classic wired-ons. Which adds a certain logic to them being very hard to wrestle onto the rim the first time. After some use they are often easy to remove and reinstall without any tools. I would not use them om hookless rims for anything else than display purposes. YMMV.

bikemig 

My experience running folding tires with rims without hooks has not been good. Running a wire rim 27 x 1 and 1/4 tire at 70 PSI works well with those rims. I agree with non-fixie , but perhaps others have a different experience with folding tires and hookless rims.

Sierra

Another vote for the Pasela on the Weinmann rims.
I've been using them on my '71 P15 with no problems.
I initially used the 1 1/4 but changed to 1 1/8.
They may be slow, but at my age so am I, so no worries there.

wesmamyke

The Michelin 27" tires are really nice, have not seen those in awhile though. We had Serfas tires at one shop, they look terrible but always fit great. Just avoid the Kenda stuff and you're probably fine.

imabeliever1

JohnDThompson 

I run 32mm wide, wire bead Paselas on hookless Weinmann rims on one of my bikes. Keep the pressure below ~80psi and you should be fine.

merziac

Fantastic, Tx!

And chrome no less.

merziac

I have a 75-6 Paramount with original hookless rims that came to me with old Schwalbe's on it, they were/are old and wouldn't hold on over 40 psi, I just made due with them and it was ok.

oldukbkr 

I don't have advice re brands but at the bike co-op where I volunteer the older mechanics like to say "55 to stay alive" when inflating tires on rims with no bead hook. I see others on here have managed fine with 70-80psi on their own bikes. We're probably a bit more cautious because we're working with someone else's bike. But to me 70-80 sounds a bit over enthusiastic.

Chain smoker

Kenda tires work fine for my 27 inch hookless rims. 70 psi max but usually 60 to 65 psi. Currently running some $6 no name tires I ordered from England in 2019. Wire bead and wearing like iron on my rain bike. I have run them at 70 psi but that is pushing the limits as I see the bead creaping up on the rim creating a bump. 55-65 psi .., no problem.

Trakhak

Seems ironic---many people post in threads about getting tires and wheels that allow them to run the lowest pressures possible, while others using the hookless rims sold from the '70's to the mid-'80's try to run the highest pressures they can get away with.

52telecaster

My experience is that folders stretch over time. I'd stay with wire bead on hookless. Fortunately I have hooks and as such I love folders.

imabeliever1

And the frame chrome is in super good condition.
Plan on making it more rideable for the Kentucky topography.Probably a bit more modern derailleurs, freewheel with a decent low,Nitto Technomic stem and Noodle bars.
The non drive side crank was split lengthwise. So prob a 70’s /80’s plain crankset setup as a compact double with lower gearing.
it still has all its Campagnolo bits, but they will probably not handle the gearing I have in mind.

Some folks probably consider it crazy to hot rod a classic, but I like to ride them and we have hills here .

New decals arrived yesterday.

52telecaster

Sounds like an excellent plan.

Sactown_Albert 

Great tires but know that they have wire bead and folding versions. I am running Pasela wire beads on an old set of Weinmann concaves that are straight walled with no hooks. Run them at 65 psi. Have never had an issue and I’m a beefy guy who rides pretty aggressively.