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This is simple. Pay attention to the posters that have first hand experience with a particular product or retailer and consider that what others have to say is hearsay and less reliable. Being an offbeat sport, cycling has always attracted a disproportionate number of people with "issues". You can't help them, and they will drag you down...but only if you let them. Give them a wide berth.
I bought 2 bikes from BD and am very happy with them. One is a Record equipped Bottecchia and the other is a 105 equipped Windsor.
I bought 2 bikes from BD and am very happy with them. One is a Record equipped Bottecchia and the other is a 105 equipped Windsor.
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whoa, someones an internet creep with too much time. If you spent that much time looking at my posts why didnt you read the one I just posted saying I never looked at anything on that site BUT the three or four fixed gear bikes, NEVER looked at the road bikes, like I stated EARLIER. Jeez all you roadies are so pretentious.
I feel your pain. A real (not a shill since he lives near me and I have met him in person, seen his bike, and he is now a friend that I ride with occasionally) new roadie (also does triathlons) made the same mistake of joining roadbikereview.com forums and started posting about his bikesdirect purchase experience - he had already made the decision to buy and had placed his order.
Needless to say he got drilled by the roadbikereview forum members. I was also unaware of "the controversy". I am a long time road bike rider but was new to cycling forums since I just started riding again regularly July 06' and my previous riding was prior to internet/forums. I was really angry about the way he was treated. They ended up moving his thread to their Motobecane/Mercier section. I did not understand because his thread was about the process he was going through buying a bike on-line. It could have been any brand, it just happened to be BikesDirect.com.
So the moral is, don't get too down on the members here. They are not any worse than other forums. Please don't get discouraged and keep participating. You just have to wade through the b.s. and learn who is guessing or biased and who really knows what they are talking about. There is a learning curve on participating in forums, just like anything else.
The search function is sometimes very useful. If you have tried to find what you are looking for you might indicate that in your post and what you tried. Experienced members may be able to direct you to more useful search terms for what you are looking for or most of the time will be nice and help you.
If you find someone particularly obnoxious, consult the ignore list on the user control panel. Putting a listing or two there could do wonders for your moral and enjoyment of the site. It worked for me and I was grateful that someone, I think it was a moderator, educated me on this.
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My opinion, not that it means much, on BD is very good so far.
I just got my road bike from them $1095 (full ultegra, Mercier). When it came in it has 2 bent spokes (UPS damage) and a blown rear tube (not sure how that happened). I called them the same day to get repair parts. They sent them to me in a timely manor and at no charge. For what I have, I’m glad I bought from them.
I just got my road bike from them $1095 (full ultegra, Mercier). When it came in it has 2 bent spokes (UPS damage) and a blown rear tube (not sure how that happened). I called them the same day to get repair parts. They sent them to me in a timely manor and at no charge. For what I have, I’m glad I bought from them.
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You should google 'how google works'
and learn more about the search engine before making assumptions
We pay for and get over 500,000 impressions per day
those result in thousands of click thrus per day
we have a list of search terms we 'bid' on
and most road bike, mountain bike, tri bike, and track bike terms are included
try 'road bike' - several times any day
most of the time you will see our ad
same is true on yahoo, msn, and ask
and learn more about the search engine before making assumptions
We pay for and get over 500,000 impressions per day
those result in thousands of click thrus per day
we have a list of search terms we 'bid' on
and most road bike, mountain bike, tri bike, and track bike terms are included
try 'road bike' - several times any day
most of the time you will see our ad
same is true on yahoo, msn, and ask
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you're just being defensive now dcbikeguy do you own a BD bike btw?
i do, two of them, a motobecane champ SL and a windsor the hour. Probably going to upgrade from the windsor soon because i want something nicer, but i don't complain about my 1,100 road bike that weighs 16.5 lbs and sports a pair of american classic 420s. at an lbs i'd get a low end 105 bike for the price that weighs about 20 lbs.
i do, two of them, a motobecane champ SL and a windsor the hour. Probably going to upgrade from the windsor soon because i want something nicer, but i don't complain about my 1,100 road bike that weighs 16.5 lbs and sports a pair of american classic 420s. at an lbs i'd get a low end 105 bike for the price that weighs about 20 lbs.
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Yes.
F*ck no. I have a successful business and can buy something better. Stay in school son and one day you will be able to afford better too. And please pay attention in English class.
Good for you - I think that's wonderful.
What? They must have a better brand of crack out there in Kansas.
And, I am not really a BD hater - I have posted picks of BD bikes that I like quite a few times (look at post #37 in your thread Idioteque - https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=347016).
This extremely vocal BD minority on this forum seems to want my *ss now - well, come and get it boys. I'll drop trou for you right now.
F*ck no. I have a successful business and can buy something better. Stay in school son and one day you will be able to afford better too. And please pay attention in English class.
i do, two of them, a motobecane champ SL and a windsor the hour. Probably going to upgrade from the windsor soon because i want something nicer, but i don't complain about my 1,100 road bike that weighs 16.5 lbs and sports a pair of american classic 420s. at an lbs i'd get a low end 105 bike for the price that weighs about 20 lbs.
What? They must have a better brand of crack out there in Kansas.
And, I am not really a BD hater - I have posted picks of BD bikes that I like quite a few times (look at post #37 in your thread Idioteque - https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=347016).
This extremely vocal BD minority on this forum seems to want my *ss now - well, come and get it boys. I'll drop trou for you right now.
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This is simple. Pay attention to the posters that have first hand experience with a particular product or retailer and consider that what others have to say is hearsay and less reliable. Being an offbeat sport, cycling has always attracted a disproportionate number of people with "issues". You can't help them, and they will drag you down...but only if you let them. Give them a wide berth.
I bought 2 bikes from BD and am very happy with them. One is a Record equipped Bottecchia and the other is a 105 equipped Windsor.
I bought 2 bikes from BD and am very happy with them. One is a Record equipped Bottecchia and the other is a 105 equipped Windsor.
You would fit in well here in my town.
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What? They must have a better brand of crack out there in Kansas.
And, I am not really a BD hater - I have posted picks of BD bikes that I like quite a few times (look at post #37 in your thread Idioteque - https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=347016).
This extremely vocal BD minority on this forum seems to want my *ss now - well, come and get it boys. I'll drop trou for you right now."
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"Period"? You can't be serious son. I just googled "cheap road bike" and "inexpensive road bike" and BD didn't come up once (NOT ONCE!) in the first four pages of hits. What did come up several times however, was this forum. Hmmmm, now what can we conclude from this...woops, there I go being Barney again
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Frugle...I was going to cite the same thing.
dcbikeguy, you have to be kidding me. Do you actually think Mike went and bought more terms just because you said you couldn't find any responses to BD?
I think it is more accurate to say that you just missed the ads to the right on the google results or as Mike first indicated, you didn't try enough samples because the result list on the right is completely random.
I don't have a BD bike nor plan to purchase one but I cannot dispute the pricing...if you are price concious, this is a very viable alternative, IMO.
dcbikeguy, you have to be kidding me. Do you actually think Mike went and bought more terms just because you said you couldn't find any responses to BD?
I think it is more accurate to say that you just missed the ads to the right on the google results or as Mike first indicated, you didn't try enough samples because the result list on the right is completely random.
I don't have a BD bike nor plan to purchase one but I cannot dispute the pricing...if you are price concious, this is a very viable alternative, IMO.
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dcbikeguy, you have to be kidding me. Do you actually think Mike went and bought more terms just because you said you couldn't find any responses to BD?
I think it is more accurate to say that you just missed the ads to the right on the google results or as Mike first indicated, you didn't try enough samples because the result list on the right is completely random.
I think it is more accurate to say that you just missed the ads to the right on the google results or as Mike first indicated, you didn't try enough samples because the result list on the right is completely random.
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No, I do believe that your query returned no BD results, however, you were basing it on a very small sample. This does not provide a strong case that by querying for "Cheap road bikes" does not yield BD results...that is all.
Bottom line: There is a large possibility that a potential buyer could happen across BD searching google and then looking for feedback ends up here due to their lower pricing.
Bottom line: There is a large possibility that a potential buyer could happen across BD searching google and then looking for feedback ends up here due to their lower pricing.
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Please God, let that be the case.
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Why do you have such a hatred of BD? Do you have an interest in LBS either as an employee or owner? Do you have the authority to forbid me from posting on this thread?
And no I don't smoke crack.
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I just don't have the patience to slow things down to your speed. God bless.
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I too am a BD shill. My Winsor Tourist (54cm) has the same dimensions as a Fuji Touring bike (the Windsor web site dimensions are off). I didn't have to travel 50 miles to buy one, or have someone try to talk me out of buying a touring bike either. I expect had I wanted to return the bike, it would have been less difficult overall than going back to a LBS.
Not to say that every LBS is a pain to deal with. I frequent a couple that are really pleasant. They don't sell Trek or Fuji or Cannondale though. Those LBS are more difficult to deal with. I like to think getting involved in some group rides through a club or other organization might make dealing with those LBS who sell Trek's, Cannondale's, and Fuji's easier.
I was going to spend $1k on a Trek 1500, but the LBS guy that I talked with says, "oh yea, you need to make an appointment. Bring your exercise clothes and we'll fit you." This was after trying to steer me towards another bike. Not in my lifetime, were my thoughts. I expect everyone is different and has different expectation.
No, a Windsor tourist won't have the resale value of a Trek, or Cannondale, or Fuji. There is no snob appeal, either. I know that and hope others recognize that as well. But, after a Brooks B17 seat, Continental Contact tires, fenders, Cateye wireless computer, Sigman HRM, Cateye halogen headlight (w/Sears LED), Sunlite LED taillight, and Topeak Road Morph-G, the price was less than a Fuji touring. Plus, it arrived at my door (although I did have to sign for it which was a pain).
I looked around last year for a road bike and actually considered going to DC (~360 mi) to see one. While buying the BD Windsor Tourist was a risk knowing nothing about the company, the bike has exceeded my expectations. BD also clued me into the Parks MTB-3 tool at a discount. Bikes direct is a good mail order bicycle company.
Not to say that every LBS is a pain to deal with. I frequent a couple that are really pleasant. They don't sell Trek or Fuji or Cannondale though. Those LBS are more difficult to deal with. I like to think getting involved in some group rides through a club or other organization might make dealing with those LBS who sell Trek's, Cannondale's, and Fuji's easier.
I was going to spend $1k on a Trek 1500, but the LBS guy that I talked with says, "oh yea, you need to make an appointment. Bring your exercise clothes and we'll fit you." This was after trying to steer me towards another bike. Not in my lifetime, were my thoughts. I expect everyone is different and has different expectation.
No, a Windsor tourist won't have the resale value of a Trek, or Cannondale, or Fuji. There is no snob appeal, either. I know that and hope others recognize that as well. But, after a Brooks B17 seat, Continental Contact tires, fenders, Cateye wireless computer, Sigman HRM, Cateye halogen headlight (w/Sears LED), Sunlite LED taillight, and Topeak Road Morph-G, the price was less than a Fuji touring. Plus, it arrived at my door (although I did have to sign for it which was a pain).
I looked around last year for a road bike and actually considered going to DC (~360 mi) to see one. While buying the BD Windsor Tourist was a risk knowing nothing about the company, the bike has exceeded my expectations. BD also clued me into the Parks MTB-3 tool at a discount. Bikes direct is a good mail order bicycle company.