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Old 03-02-18, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pickettt View Post
Nonsense. If you can't differentiate between your property and public roads, it does no good to have this conversation. That being said, I get it, there are guys I don't like on rides either, but there's still nothing you can rightfully do about it.
See, this is where we cross paths with the "tailgating is unsafe and illegal" contingent. Yes, they have a right to ride in the same road in reasonable proximity, but they don't have a right to wheelsuck or insinuate themselves into a paceline uninvited.
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See, this is where we cross paths with the "tailgating is unsafe and illegal" contingent. Yes, they have a right to ride in the same road in reasonable proximity, but they don't have a right to wheelsuck or insinuate themselves into a paceline uninvited.
So then, if while driving, you're being tailgated and the offender is pulled over, you can say, "Officer, it's okay, this person has been invited to tailgate, but that one doesn't." You think it works that way? By that rationale, pacelines on public roads should be prohibited.

Again, don't get me wrong, there are guys that i do not appreciate being on group rides, but you have no recourse.
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Originally Posted by pickettt View Post
So your tactic is to hope they believe your misinformation?
I haven't had to resort to the "hope" part to date, because so far they always do believe me. Why wouldn't they?

Or at least, why wouldn't they get the hint even if they were skeptical of the reason?

Let's get real; what sort of anti-social dysfunctional misanthrope would you have to be to think that not only would it be a good idea to join a total stranger's paceline, but A) insisted on doing so after being told you weren't welcome; and B) used the excuse "These Are Public Roads!" to justify your doing so?

I'd yell at someone just for being an idiot if they took that approach.
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Old 03-02-18, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pickettt View Post
So then, if while driving, you're being tailgated and the offender is pulled over, you can say, "Officer, it's okay, this person has been invited to tailgate, but that one doesn't." You think it works that way? By that rationale, pacelines on public roads should be prohibited.

Again, don't get me wrong, there are guys that i do not appreciate being on group rides, but you have no recourse.
No, I do not think it "works that way." I'm merely pointing out how the lines of thinking sort of cross here.

Personally, I don't think it's particularly rational to prohibit bikes from "tailgating" simply because they are "vehicles," but I do believe it is rational to prohibit people from harassing, stalking, invading the privacy of others and generally making a nuisance of themselves. One can have a "leg to stand on" in the sense of having a valid cause for complaint without anyone doing anything the cops would automatically pull them over for.

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Lewis Hamilton and his race-mates are all out for a practice run. You show up in your IndyCar, and decide to join in on the fun. Unfortunately, the engine and handling of the IndyCar just isn't quite as advanced as the pack you decided to join. Drafting practice was going on, and as the cars were wanting to see how they did further back in the wind and the buffeting, they would filter back on the left. The cars advancing would do so on the right side. Guys driving the Toro Rosso are able to hang with the pack, as long as the draft is there. You somehow work your way between them and the McLaren's leading the pack, and a gap opens. Once a gap opens, the Toro Rosso guys stand no chance to hang with the rest, so they hit their DRS, and go to your right, expecting you to filter back on their left, as is customary. You instead hit your push to pass,, realize it isn't helping you close the gap, and pull over to the right, which is the slow lane in your world... This is contrary to all that has been going on as you were trying to hang with the F1 one guys. Unfortunately, you were so busy doing everything you could to keep up, you had no time to take in the dynamics of the group.

Yelling ensued as they were climbing out of their junk cars.
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I bought some moisture wicking t-shirts for cycling at Walmart last night. As I was coming out of the store I could hear some guy yelling, even though my shirts were inside of a plastic bag. I thought to myself, "Ahhhhhhh! Cycling season is almost here!"
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Won’t be able to hear you as I drop you’re group
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Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
Lewis Hamilton and his race-mates are all out for a practice run. You show up in your IndyCar, and decide to join in on the fun. Unfortunately, the engine and handling of the IndyCar just isn't quite as advanced as the pack you decided to join. Drafting practice was going on, and as the cars were wanting to see how they did further back in the wind and the buffeting, they would filter back on the left. The cars advancing would do so on the right side. Guys driving the Toro Rosso are able to hang with the pack, as long as the draft is there. You somehow work your way between them and the McLaren's leading the pack, and a gap opens. Once a gap opens, the Toro Rosso guys stand no chance to hang with the rest, so they hit their DRS, and go to your right, expecting you to filter back on their left, as is customary. You instead hit your push to pass,, realize it isn't helping you close the gap, and pull over to the right, which is the slow lane in your world... This is contrary to all that has been going on as you were trying to hang with the F1 one guys. Unfortunately, you were so busy doing everything you could to keep up, you had no time to take in the dynamics of the group.

Yelling ensued as they were climbing out of their junk cars.
Speaking of F1...



Goddamnit. I get the purpose, but $%$# me the halo is ugly.
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Old 03-03-18, 09:13 PM
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Speaking of F1...



Goddamnit. I get the purpose, but $%$# me the halo is ugly.
I agree. I do like the IndyCar solution better. The tall screen is much more pleasing to the eye.
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So how does one get yelled at in here? The thread paceline blew past me on the last page, so I’ll ask again: I’m looking for some new reading, and was wondering the op’s nom de plume so I can source their book(s). Anyone who can tell me? Please type in all caps, or the yelling effect won’t be fully realized. Thanks.
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So how does one get yelled at in here? The thread paceline blew past me on the last page, so Iíll ask again: Iím looking for some new reading, and was wondering the opís nom de plume so I can source their book(s). Anyone who can tell me? Please type in all caps, or the yelling effect wonít be fully realized. Thanks.
It looks like this is the one coming out shortly. All his book are very enjoyable reads.


https://www.amazon.com/American-Pro-...ds=Jamie+Smith
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so how does one get yelled at in here? The thread paceline blew past me on the last page, so i’ll ask again: I’m looking for some new reading, and was wondering the op’s nom de plume so i can source their book(s). Anyone who can tell me? Please type in all caps, or the yelling effect won’t be fully realized. Thanks.
PHIL GAIMON HAS WRITTEN SOME ENJOYABLE BOOKS ON PRO CYCLING!!!!!!!!

You're welcome.
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LAJ, thanks for the link.

THANKS DAN!

I'll drop off the back now.
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Oh no, a noodly armed spandex clad guy who weights 155lbs is going to yell!!! I couldn't imagine the intimidation that must cause haha.
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155? Must be a sprinter.
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155? Better be a sprinter.
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I was in a bike shop last week when the owner introduced me to a customer as "the guy who started the yelling thread". and the first thing he said was "Wow. I don't ever want to ride with YOU!"

Hell, I don't even want to ride with me.

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So how does one get yelled at in here? The thread paceline blew past me on the last page, so Iíll ask again: Iím looking for some new reading, and was wondering the opís nom de plume so I can source their book(s). Anyone who can tell me? Please type in all caps, or the yelling effect wonít be fully realized. Thanks.
I try to avoid shilling my books here because I don't want to be that guy. The first one is Roadie. You can go from there. Thanks! American Pro comes out in May. Hope you enjoy the reads.
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I don't want to be that guy.
Isn't this thread 111 pages about you being "that guy"?

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Bumped for Tim.
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Bumped for Tim.
First, a word of thanks for bumping this thread as I hadn't seen it before. And, to Tim, for being the (unwitting) catalyst for it's revival. I'm now able to postpone my trip to the library for a good book to read.

I must say, with my caliber of riding, I know not of such words as 'pace line', 'wheel sucking', or any other language that suggests riding at more than a recreational pace. Having said that, I was on a charity ride once and a guy came up on my tail and rode there for a while and finally said "I hope you don't mind me drafting behind you". I was so tickled that ANYONE would find it useful to draft behind ME that I invited him to just draft to his heart's content ...
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It looks like this is the one coming out shortly. All his book are very enjoyable reads.


https://www.amazon.com/American-Pro-...ds=Jamie+Smith
OK, you've had a whole year to read it. What did you think? Or are you still waiting to borrow a copy?
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Pick one.
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OK, you've had a whole year to read it. What did you think? Or are you still waiting to borrow a copy?

That last purchase on Amazon? Yeah. That was me. So far, you are spot on though. When I'm in Zone 2 Endurance Ride Hell, I do dream of the bad ass bike racing team I would start when I won the lottery. Here I thought I was unique.

Huge apologies for letting it slip my mind. For that, you may yell at me.
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