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Old 08-18-19, 07:38 AM
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Having a water bottle dilemma

I moved my accessories from my old bike to my new bike and now I'm unable to get the water bottle out of the holder on the seat tube (To insert the water bottle in that holder I have to take off the top of the bottle also). Would side loading water bottle cages solve my problem? Any recommendation for one that'll hold a CamelBak Podium Big Chill 25oz Insulated Water Bottle? Also, would I be able to keep my pump on my bike? Thanks!



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Old 08-18-19, 07:54 AM
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The wire cages with open sides will resolve your issue. They are flexible enough to allow pulling the top of the bottle laterally to remove at an angle. I use 750 ml bottles with mine and have had no issue with stability when full. Your bottles look a bit longer than mine, which are just under 10".
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Old 08-18-19, 07:56 AM
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Arundel Flip Flop

Available in black and white. I prefer the Flip Flop over others because it can be mounted right or left-handed.
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Old 08-18-19, 07:57 AM
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Side release cage.
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Old 08-18-19, 08:31 AM
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Or if you can afford it, get a couple of Fidlocks. I've heard and read some good reviews about them.

https://www.amazon.com/Fidlock-Twist...gateway&sr=8-3
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Old 08-18-19, 10:08 AM
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Generally the bottle on the seat tube isn't used much. The bottle in the down tube is much easier to access while riding. So when the down tube bottle gets emptied you swap positions with the seat tube bottle.

Can the seat tube bottle be lowered with something like this? I use them on a couple of my bikes to adjust the bottle positions for similar reasons.

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...s/b-rad-system


The camelback big chill bottles aren't very cage friendly and have recently been redesigned. I have them and they are much easier to get in/out of just about any cage. Some people don't like the redesign but I think it's a better product overall, nicer than the old version.

https://www.camelbak.com/en/bottles/...d9a6a59f2b930d
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Old 08-18-19, 01:27 PM
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I agree with the side load cages. My wife rides a very small framed bike and has to use side loaders and a small bottle on the seat tube. If you don't go for the flip flop then be careful as to which side exit you choose. If you want two side loaders then just get one of each.
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Old 08-18-19, 02:10 PM
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Is that really necessary here?

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I got the impression in another thread, the mods are getting tired of that kinda stuff too. Losing members on the forum because of unnecessary comments like that, isn't going over well with them.

Can't say I disagree.

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Old 08-18-19, 02:15 PM
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Post #6 or post #7 ?
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Old 08-18-19, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by morgothaod View Post
I moved my accessories from my old bike to my new bike and now I'm unable to get the water bottle out of the holder on the seat tube (To insert the water bottle in that holder I have to take off the top of the bottle also). Would side loading water bottle cages solve my problem? Any recommendation for one that'll hold a CamelBak Podium Big Chill 25oz Insulated Water Bottle? Also, would I be able to keep my pump on my bike? Thanks!
You may also want to consider the NEW CamelBak bottles as well, for they are somewhat shorter with the new tops. I really like the improvements.
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Old 08-18-19, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Post #6 or post #7 ?
#6

Edited my post to add "too" which should make it clearer.
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Old 08-18-19, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by one4smoke View Post
I got the impression in another thread, the mods are getting tired of that kinda stuff. Losing members on the forum because of unnecessary comments like that, isn't going over well with them.

Can't say I disagree.
Exactly...because having a device that enables one to log into a web discussion forum is a "first world" issue too. We all know about the struggles of those who may not be privileged enough to have two water bottles on their bike. Or, even own a bike. There are forums one can log into to discuss those social topics if they wish. This is a bicycle discussion forum. Anything on the bike is allowable IMO.

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Old 08-18-19, 02:28 PM
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I too was thinking 500ml bottles instead of 750ml bottles - wouldn't that fix the problem?
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Old 08-18-19, 03:42 PM
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Same here... get a smaller bottle... You can't have it all. I like my half frame bag. I like my bottles. I can't have large bottles AND my frame bag. Logical solution is to use smaller bottles.
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Get a smaller water bottle!

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Old 08-18-19, 04:58 PM
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Get a smaller water bottle!
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Why doers buying a smaller bottle make any more sense than buying a side-loader cage and retaining the bottle he has now? I use a side-loader on my bike so I can clear a frame bag without resorting to a smaller bottle.

All of the people saying "smaller bottle," you have to realize you're effectively saying "just take less water."
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Why doers buying a smaller bottle make any more sense than buying a side-loader cage and retaining the bottle he has now? I use a side-loader on my bike so I can clear a frame bag without resorting to a smaller bottle.

All of the people saying "smaller bottle," you have to realize you're effectively saying "just take less water."
One of those bottles will take me 40 miles, how much water do you need, you can refill them you know. OP didnít say he was biking in the Mohave desert.
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Didn't say he wasn't, either.

I drink based on conditions and intensity. Sometimes 50oz is enough, sometimes it isn't. I happen to live in a desert, so "take less water" doesn't work for me. Sideloader does.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Didn't say he wasn't, either.

I drink based on conditions and intensity. Sometimes 50oz is enough, sometimes it isn't. I happen to live in a desert, so "take less water" doesn't work for me. Sideloader does.
Good for you!
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Why doers buying a smaller bottle make any more sense than buying a side-loader cage and retaining the bottle he has now? I use a side-loader on my bike so I can clear a frame bag without resorting to a smaller bottle.

All of the people saying "smaller bottle," you have to realize you're effectively saying "just take less water."
I suggested he try the newer CamelBak which holds the same amount of water, but isn't as tall because it has a much smaller spout. Would be easier to remove from the cage based on his pictures.
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Old 08-18-19, 06:57 PM
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I love the new Camelbak nozzle-- better flow rate, lower profile, much easier to clean. But those new bottles are almost unsqueezably stiff. Stiff.
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Originally Posted by tkamd73 View Post
One of those bottles will take me 40 miles, how much water do you need, you can refill them you know. OP didnít say he was biking in the Mohave desert.
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I don't know how much you need, but I need a lot more than one bottle every 40 miles.

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I don't know how much you need, but I need a lot more than one bottle every 40 miles.

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I tend to start out hydrated, Good for you!
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If you aren't riding competitively, just use what you have as an opportunity to take a little break and swap bottle locations in the middle of your ride.
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Originally Posted by tkamd73 View Post
One of those bottles will take me 40 miles, how much water do you need, you can refill them you know. OP didnít say he was biking in the Mohave desert.
Tim
Good for you.

Others desire more water and rather have the capacity without having to stop, IN CASE there is no where to refill. Common sense.
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