Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Police bicycles

Old 06-13-19, 08:34 PM
  #76  
Tanstaafl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 162

Bikes: Specialized Crosstrails

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 31 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by Hr1
A police mtb (Fuji, Cannon., Spec., etc.) weighs around 35lbs, the police equipment weighs around 50lbs. Voila' 85-90lbs.
Oh, Look. A picture of actual police and an actual police bike. They are packing pretty dense if there is 50 lbs of stuff in there...
Tanstaafl is offline  
Likes For Tanstaafl:
Old 06-13-19, 11:55 PM
  #77  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
Originally Posted by Tanstaafl
Oh, Look. A picture of actual police and an actual police bike. They are packing pretty dense if there is 50 lbs of stuff in there...
Nothing about the bike looks heavy except compared to a racing bike. The gear they're wearing certainly weighs a bit, radio, kevlar, sidearm and whatever else is on that belt. No idea what that stuff weighs total.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 12:40 AM
  #78  
Nermal
Senior Member
 
Nermal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Farmington, NM
Posts: 2,308

Bikes: Giant Cypress SX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Tanstaafl
Oh, Look. A picture of actual police and an actual police bike. They are packing pretty dense if there is 50 lbs of stuff in there...
Just love the username.
__________________
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Nermal is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 07:32 AM
  #79  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 1,823

Bikes: '12 Schwinn, '13 Norco

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1110 Post(s)
Liked 1,176 Times in 795 Posts
Originally Posted by Tanstaafl
Oh, Look. A picture of actual police and an actual police bike. They are packing pretty dense if there is 50 lbs of stuff in there...
The police chief! I wonder what the occasion was?
FiftySix is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 08:09 AM
  #80  
mixteup
Full Member
 
mixteup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 389

Bikes: A Few

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 156 Post(s)
Liked 63 Times in 27 Posts
Originally Posted by FiftySix
The police chief! I wonder what the occasion was?
New bike day ?
mixteup is offline  
Likes For mixteup:
Old 06-14-19, 09:39 AM
  #81  
Kapusta
Advanced Slacker
 
Kapusta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 6,187

Bikes: Soma Fog Cutter, Surly Wednesday, Canfielld Tilt

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2749 Post(s)
Liked 2,516 Times in 1,422 Posts
Originally Posted by Hr1
A police mtb (Fuji, Cannon., Spec., etc.) weighs around 35lbs, the police equipment weighs around 50lbs. Voila' 85-90lbs.
You think a beat cop’s equipment weights 50 lbs? Seriously?

And even if that was the case, how on Earth would a typical road bike even handle that?
Kapusta is offline  
Likes For Kapusta:
Old 06-14-19, 10:51 AM
  #82  
bakerjw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: NE Tennessee
Posts: 917

Bikes: Giant TCR/Surly Karate Monkey/Foundry FireTower/Curtlo Tandem

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 169 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 62 Posts
They could be riding steel bikes and I've heard that those are real heavy.
bakerjw is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 10:56 AM
  #83  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
Do the former bike cops and spouses have any good stories they could tell? That might salvage something good from this sorry thread.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 10:59 AM
  #84  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,063
Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18322 Post(s)
Liked 15,303 Times in 7,232 Posts
Hope those officers aren't injured or killed by those meat slicer disc brakes.

Last edited by indyfabz; 06-14-19 at 11:08 AM.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 11:08 AM
  #85  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,063
Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18322 Post(s)
Liked 15,303 Times in 7,232 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
I hope that's a typo. You meant "aren't", right?

I'll take this down if you fix it.
Damn! Fixed.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 06-14-19, 11:10 AM
  #86  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
Damn! Fixed.

Like it never happened.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 06-15-19, 07:01 PM
  #87  
257 roberts
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Lakeland,Fl
Posts: 483

Bikes: 2008 Trek Police bike 2019 Jamis Coda Sport 2021 Surly Bridgeclub

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 76 Post(s)
Liked 924 Times in 304 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
Nothing about the bike looks heavy except compared to a racing bike. The gear they're wearing certainly weighs a bit, radio, kevlar, sidearm and whatever else is on that belt. No idea what that stuff weighs total.
back in the day the gunbelt/gear was 18lbs-20lbs but the vests today are lighter but they carry more ammo and spare handcuffs so 20lbs I think would be close.
257 roberts is offline  
Likes For 257 roberts:
Old 06-15-19, 07:57 PM
  #88  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
So I think the ideal cop bike would be 70t by 11t single speed so the cop could spin it up to 50 mph to catch bad guys.
livedarklions is offline  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 06-16-19, 08:17 AM
  #89  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 1,823

Bikes: '12 Schwinn, '13 Norco

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1110 Post(s)
Liked 1,176 Times in 795 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
So I think the ideal cop bike would be 70t by 11t single speed so the cop could spin it up to 50 mph to catch bad guys.
Sounds like a bicycle for RoboCop.

Now the weight question gets real. How heavy would a bicycle be that's strong enough to support and withstand RoboCop?
FiftySix is offline  
Old 06-16-19, 09:53 AM
  #90  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
Originally Posted by FiftySix
Sounds like a bicycle for RoboCop.

Now the weight question gets real. How heavy would a bicycle be that's strong enough to support and withstand RoboCop?
Sorry, I was kidding. It's a reference to one of the most ridiculous bf threads ever.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 06-16-19, 12:04 PM
  #91  
FiftySix
I'm the anecdote.
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 1,823

Bikes: '12 Schwinn, '13 Norco

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1110 Post(s)
Liked 1,176 Times in 795 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
Sorry, I was kidding. It's a reference to one of the most ridiculous bf threads ever.
Dang. I was hoping to start with a 630 motorcycle chain and sprockets and work up from there.
FiftySix is offline  
Old 06-16-19, 12:11 PM
  #92  
Skipjacks
Senior Member
 
Skipjacks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Mid Atlantic / USA
Posts: 2,115

Bikes: 2017 Specialized Crosstrail / 2013 Trek Crossrip Elite

Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1002 Post(s)
Liked 237 Times in 155 Posts
Originally Posted by FiftySix
Sounds like a bicycle for RoboCop.

Now the weight question gets real. How heavy would a bicycle be that's strong enough to support and withstand RoboCop?
He just puts pedals on a Harley chassis

Skipjacks is offline  
Likes For Skipjacks:
Old 06-17-19, 04:06 AM
  #93  
funbuffalo24
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 45

Bikes: '09 Jamis Aurora elite, '01 Jamis Quest, '97 Trek Y3, '87 Bianchi Sport SX, '96 Bianchi San Remo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by TimothyH
Police on Trek Y11's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp21BeAWM8o





-Tim-
those guys are on trek y22's, not11's. Oddly enough it was the same paint scheme as the y3 though
funbuffalo24 is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 11:11 AM
  #94  
cormacf
Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 390

Bikes: 2017 Lynskey Sportive Disc, 2021 Lynskey Pro29, 1977 Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 118 Post(s)
Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts
  • Mountain bikes and road bikes are both faster than pedestrians.
  • Radios are faster than all three.
  • Mountain bikes bounce when road bikes break.
  • Heads-up bars mean less smashing into cars and more "seeing the bad guys."
  • Gear is heavy, and a loaded touring bike really wouldn't make a lot of sense...
cormacf is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 11:25 AM
  #95  
zacharycat
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Think police use bikes for foot patrol but can cover ground a little more quickly, not as chase vehicles. They could catch a fleeing pedestrian on either bike if needed and MTB can cover grass, gravel, broken pavement better.
zacharycat is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 11:31 AM
  #96  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,094 Times in 5,053 Posts
Originally Posted by zacharycat
Think police use bikes for foot patrol but can cover ground a little more quickly, not as chase vehicles. They could catch a fleeing pedestrian on either bike if needed and MTB can cover grass, gravel, broken pavement better.
I think that foot patrol thing hits the nail on the head.

I have no idea how someone is supposed to take someone else down while riding a bike, but I have to assume it's a pretty damn risky maneuver.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 11:41 AM
  #97  
burnthesheep
Newbie racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,406

Bikes: Propel, red is faster

Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 1,568 Times in 973 Posts
About the 2nd post got it, mobile radio that can keep a visual on a perp and get backup.

It's about increasing the radius of a walking police "beat" with the bike as well.

I will totally disagree about the whole chase thing. Even if you could out sprint someone on flats and 30 pounds of gear and heavier bike, what are you going to do when you catch them? Crash yourself at 20mph while trying to crash them out? You know what it's like as an adult to crash any bike on any surface over 20mph?

It's about staying in range to get radio help or get close enough to finish a chase on foot.

The rest is movie theatrics.

I could imagine the mtb being more comfortable for a beat on the bike.
burnthesheep is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 11:45 AM
  #98  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 861 Posts
They're going into E bikes .. now..
fietsbob is offline  
Likes For fietsbob:
Old 06-17-19, 12:03 PM
  #99  
studbike1
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 36
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
If I was in charge of a police department I would never spec road bikes for my cops. Mountain bikes are much tougher, less fatiguing to spend time on, better visibility and vision, less expensive, and 9/10 as fast in a pursuit situation. If you lean down and have good tires, it's basically a draw.

Modern road bikes are artifacts of building a marketplace on the image of professional racers. I love them, as do many others here I'm sure, but what matters is the rider. I've had the experience of passing a paceline on a mountain bike. I've had the experience of leading a fast paceline and getting passed by someone else on a mountain bike. Both are exciting!
studbike1 is offline  
Old 06-17-19, 12:32 PM
  #100  
dsbrantjr
Senior Member
 
dsbrantjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Roswell, GA
Posts: 8,319

Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1438 Post(s)
Liked 1,092 Times in 723 Posts
Originally Posted by velojym
The greatest direct benefits (remember, for any 'real' and dangerous issues, they all had radios) for the PD were:
-They weren't driving around in a steel and glass cage. More accessible, and had to learn to interact with the public constantly. This helps to alleviate the 'rolling fortress' mentality.
-Officers who needed more physical activity, so as not to appear to be the stereotypical Uniformed Donut Muncher.
-Provide a Police Presence in areas where cars are either excluded or unwieldy, with a LOT more mobility than a foot patrol
-etc...
^^^^ THIS, absolutely.
dsbrantjr is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.