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Low tech gravel bike

Old 07-11-19, 08:58 AM
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Low tech gravel bike

No disc brakes, no fat tires, ride with what you have.

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As long as it's an uphill finish, no problem. It's the descent that would suck.
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Originally Posted by shoota View Post
As long as it's an uphill finish, no problem. It's the descent that would suck.
The uphills sucked too. While derailleurs were permitted in road racing by 1939, "racing" derailleurs of the day had very little chain wrap, usually less than 10 teeth. So in order to also have remotely-plausible gears on the flats, you were looking at doing mountainous ascents in a 55" gear or higher.
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The uphills sucked too. While derailleurs were permitted in road racing by 1939, "racing" derailleurs of the day had very little chain wrap, usually less than 10 teeth. So in order to also have remotely-plausible gears on the flats, you were looking at doing mountainous ascents in a 55" gear or higher.
Well, since gearing wasn't mentioned in the OP, and that gearing would suck whether it was paved or not, and this is the gravel subforum, I dub thee post.."irrelevant."
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Well, since gearing wasn't mentioned in the OP, and that gearing would suck whether it was paved or not, and this is the gravel subforum, I dub thee post.."irrelevant."
Gearing wasn't mentioned in the OP's text, but it's relevant to their example image.

While the gearing does suck whether it's paved or not, gearing bottom-out is more of a problem on gravel than pavement due to limited rear wheel traction. You can't stand and chop at the pedals to produce extra torque on gravel like you can on pavement.
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
Gearing wasn't mentioned in the OP's text, but it's relevant to their example image.

While the gearing does suck whether it's paved or not, gearing bottom-out is more of a problem on gravel than pavement due to limited rear wheel traction. You can't stand and chop at the pedals to produce extra torque on gravel like you can on pavement.
Hmmm. *thinking*...ok I'll allow it. I dub thee comment.."relevant."
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back when there were real gravel bikes.

Yeah, fixed gear or single speed back in the day. TdF fixed gear - now that would be a sufferfest.
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back when there were real gravel bikes.

Yeah, fixed gear or single speed back in the day. TdF fixed gear - now that would be a sufferfest.
I watched a documentary a few months ago while I was on my trainer called Le Ride -- it's ostensibly about the first English-speaking team to compete in the Tour, in 1928. But it's really about the filmmaker and his friend riding the 1928 route on period-appropriate bikes. Fixed gears and absolutely dangerous rod brakes.

It looked miserable.

The documentary itself was ok. Not great. Very little interest to anyone who isn't a cyclist. It's really mostly just footage of these two guys suffering on bikes and pretty light on the historical info. But it wasn't a bad way to kill 1.5 hours on the trainer.
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Has anyone read "Road to Valor" about Gino Bartali?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...-road-to-valor

It was a fascinating book, as much about history as it is about cycling and Bartali himself.

To the point of this thread, I'll bet Gino would have preferred disk brakes and 45 mm tubeless.


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