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#3426
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Actually, I think a better reply would have been: "I'm not a Master. So I will just get the a silver chain." Pros get their stuff for free, whereas Masters tend to have more money than sense. For example, I have two bikes with the Izumi V and I have another new Izumi V waiting for the next bike that I build. I'm definitely not a Pro.
I cannot wait to see yout next bike
#3427
aka mattio
I think a lot of people who are VERY SERIOUS about bike racing - who travel for races, who train a year in advance, etc - sometimes go for value over quality with bike parts.
People like me.
I figure, I spend enough time and money on bike racing as it is. I can go with used wheels, aluminum frames, and mid-level parts. I'm not sacrificing any performance, and I'm just saving up my money for travel, big races, and any equipment crises that inevitably arise.
People like me.
I figure, I spend enough time and money on bike racing as it is. I can go with used wheels, aluminum frames, and mid-level parts. I'm not sacrificing any performance, and I'm just saving up my money for travel, big races, and any equipment crises that inevitably arise.
#3428
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In Japan one of the pros shamed me for using the Izumi V. He said, "why do you use that? Because it's gold?", then showed me the FULL GARBAGE CAN of chain take-off from the other pros– all the much cheaper $15 black/blue HKK chain. "The only difference is the color, save your money".
I'm of the opinion that because we change our chains fairly frequently to avoid prematurely wearing-out our pretty expensive chainrings and cogs, that the chain does not need to have crazy expensive coatings on it. I just get the $15-20 chain, and change it often.
I'm of the opinion that because we change our chains fairly frequently to avoid prematurely wearing-out our pretty expensive chainrings and cogs, that the chain does not need to have crazy expensive coatings on it. I just get the $15-20 chain, and change it often.
#3429
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In Japan one of the pros shamed me for using the Izumi V. He said, "why do you use that? Because it's gold?", then showed me the FULL GARBAGE CAN of chain take-off from the other pros– all the much cheaper $15 black/blue HKK chain. "The only difference is the color, save your money".
I'm of the opinion that because we change our chains fairly frequently to avoid prematurely wearing-out our pretty expensive chainrings and cogs, that the chain does not need to have crazy expensive coatings on it. I just get the $15-20 chain, and change it often.
I'm of the opinion that because we change our chains fairly frequently to avoid prematurely wearing-out our pretty expensive chainrings and cogs, that the chain does not need to have crazy expensive coatings on it. I just get the $15-20 chain, and change it often.
#3430
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I think a lot of people who are VERY SERIOUS about bike racing - who travel for races, who train a year in advance, etc - sometimes go for value over quality with bike parts.
People like me.
I figure, I spend enough time and money on bike racing as it is. I can go with used wheels, aluminum frames, and mid-level parts. I'm not sacrificing any performance, and I'm just saving up my money for travel, big races, and any equipment crises that inevitably arise.
People like me.
I figure, I spend enough time and money on bike racing as it is. I can go with used wheels, aluminum frames, and mid-level parts. I'm not sacrificing any performance, and I'm just saving up my money for travel, big races, and any equipment crises that inevitably arise.
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I think the 112 vs 100 link info is an error on the KMC site. I'm looking at both chains right here and the box is marked 100 links on each.
I generally use the Ti-Nitride coated chain because it is supposed to last a little longer, too. Plus, I like a little flair. How often does everybody replace their chain, anyhow?
I generally use the Ti-Nitride coated chain because it is supposed to last a little longer, too. Plus, I like a little flair. How often does everybody replace their chain, anyhow?
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I change my chain before the season starts. Since I basically don't train on that bike, and it never sees bad weather, it's probably massive overkill, but track chains are cheap.
#3435
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So basically our chain costs are about the same, since I would expect 3-4 seasons out of an Izumi V.
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#3437
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I recall either a spreadsheet going around the internet, or a web app, for calculating power needed to ride a target pursuit time. It's not the pursuit schedule calculator that calculates splits. Instead, you put in your known 5min power and the pursuit time you rode, and it calculates your Cda. Then, based on that, you can enter a target pursuit time and it will calculate the power output you need in order to hit that time.
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
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I recall either a spreadsheet going around the internet, or a web app, for calculating power needed to ride a target pursuit time. It's not the pursuit schedule calculator that calculates splits. Instead, you put in your known 5min power and the pursuit time you rode, and it calculates your Cda. Then, based on that, you can enter a target pursuit time and it will calculate the power output you need in order to hit that time.
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
#3439
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I recall either a spreadsheet going around the internet, or a web app, for calculating power needed to ride a target pursuit time. It's not the pursuit schedule calculator that calculates splits. Instead, you put in your known 5min power and the pursuit time you rode, and it calculates your Cda. Then, based on that, you can enter a target pursuit time and it will calculate the power output you need in order to hit that time.
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
I think the punch line is I don't know, but his face rings a bell.
freewebs.com/trainwithpower/CdA-Crr.xls
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I recall either a spreadsheet going around the internet, or a web app, for calculating power needed to ride a target pursuit time. It's not the pursuit schedule calculator that calculates splits. Instead, you put in your known 5min power and the pursuit time you rode, and it calculates your Cda. Then, based on that, you can enter a target pursuit time and it will calculate the power output you need in order to hit that time.
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
does this ring a bell? can you point me toward it?
Alex's Cycle Blog: Individual Pursuit - What Makes us Faster?
#3441
aka mattio
I think the punch line is I don't know, but his face rings a bell.
freewebs.com/trainwithpower/CdA-Crr.xls
freewebs.com/trainwithpower/CdA-Crr.xls
I actually found what I was looking for, and the embarrassing thing is that it was a spreadsheet that I made based on a Coggan chart I found associating W/CDA ratios to pursuit times for 2k, 3k, and 4k distances. From there it's easy to put in your power, get your cda, and then pick your target time and produce the power required to hit your target time.
Some aero testing can also help make reductions in cda...
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So I've just discovered that Pro-Lite do track frames. Has anyone got any opinions/experience on them?
#3443
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I believe the Pro-lite frames are the typical open mold stuff, just branded in their black and white colourway. I'd put them on the same level as the Planet X stuff as far as quality goes.
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Whats everyones thoughts on using a srm head unit to track speed/cad/hr without using a powermeter?
A few people in my club do this, im not sure if its for the "I have an srm" bragging rights or if they actually utilize the information recorded.
Ive got a cheapo cateye that i use for current speed when warming up or training juniours and max speed for when im doing efforts, but i do like the idea of being able to see how fast i got to that speed, how long i held it for, if it was a few second peak before dropping down a few ks
I think a power meter would be awesome, but well out of my price range, the headunit is still pricey and im not sure it would be worth the cost....
A few people in my club do this, im not sure if its for the "I have an srm" bragging rights or if they actually utilize the information recorded.
Ive got a cheapo cateye that i use for current speed when warming up or training juniours and max speed for when im doing efforts, but i do like the idea of being able to see how fast i got to that speed, how long i held it for, if it was a few second peak before dropping down a few ks
I think a power meter would be awesome, but well out of my price range, the headunit is still pricey and im not sure it would be worth the cost....
#3445
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Not sure if having a PC7 is enough for bragging rights... Other suitable options to record such data would be a Garmin etc, as long as you have it running off sensors and not GPS.
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the PC7 does have a few advantages over the Garmins, they record in .5sec samples. that just gives you a better resolution info.
Not that important in most enduro situations, Good for sprinters...
you also dont have to stuff around with turning off GPS... (only cause I'm lazy)
Not that important in most enduro situations, Good for sprinters...
you also dont have to stuff around with turning off GPS... (only cause I'm lazy)
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Whats everyones thoughts on using a srm head unit to track speed/cad/hr without using a powermeter?
A few people in my club do this, im not sure if its for the "I have an srm" bragging rights or if they actually utilize the information recorded.
Ive got a cheapo cateye that i use for current speed when warming up or training juniours and max speed for when im doing efforts, but i do like the idea of being able to see how fast i got to that speed, how long i held it for, if it was a few second peak before dropping down a few ks
I think a power meter would be awesome, but well out of my price range, the headunit is still pricey and im not sure it would be worth the cost....
A few people in my club do this, im not sure if its for the "I have an srm" bragging rights or if they actually utilize the information recorded.
Ive got a cheapo cateye that i use for current speed when warming up or training juniours and max speed for when im doing efforts, but i do like the idea of being able to see how fast i got to that speed, how long i held it for, if it was a few second peak before dropping down a few ks
I think a power meter would be awesome, but well out of my price range, the headunit is still pricey and im not sure it would be worth the cost....
#3448
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I finally decided. I just ordered a No. 22 Little Wing with bronze anodization. They currently have a 6-8 week build time, so hopefully I'll have it built up before the N.E. masters regionals at the beginning of July.
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Also I can't wait to hear review of the titanium frame, because I was interested in titanium track frames(Triton-Custom titanium frame builder)
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Nice video: Little Wing
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