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Old 09-20-20, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Destination ride today - I'm not a fan. Driving to a ride always gives me anxiety about forgetting something stupid (like my shoes or water bottles or whatever), even if I double-check my triple-check.
Once I started riding after work, it got to be routine.
  • I have a basket that holds helmet, shoes, gloves, sunglasses, clif bar, tube and levers, and, these days, a mask. Also, a jacket and a vest, and skullcap.
  • I have a totebag that holds socks, bibs, jerseys (short and long sleeves) and a pair of sandals to wear to the start of the ride.
Yeah, there were a few times at first when something was missing and the narrow time window meant no ride. But do anything a couple hundred times......
The biggest problem was switching from the high roofline of a Subaru Outback to the much lower roofline of the Challenger. Took me year to realize I should sit on the sill, not on the passenger seat, to put stuff on. Any of my bikes fits neatly into the trunk/back seat area.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
On flattish terrain, how strong must the headwind be to justify shifting to the small ring?

Discuss.
When running a triple, I'd say 30 kts. A little bit of prayer may be required to be riding in that kinda breeze.
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Old 09-20-20, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
On flattish terrain, how strong must the headwind be to justify shifting to the small ring?

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In my current state of very poor conditioning the small ring is my default. It usually takes a tailwind to require the big ring. I hope to change that this winter. The first injury keeping me off the bike, this year, occurred in Jan or Feb. No riding for a month. Then the lockdown. Another month. Then the amputation in mid-April. No riding for 3.5 months.
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More bobcats. Lounging by the pool this time.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Not even 40 miles - stupid windy and I was completely unmotivated.
Should have tried the small ring.
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50, 52, 53, other?
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What could possibly go wrong?
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In my current state of very poor conditioning the small ring is my default.
That is pretty bad.
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More bobcats. Lounging by the pool this time.
???

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Originally Posted by rjones28
Get a single speed, ya pansy. 48/18.
I've often considered ir. Not tough enough. The bulk of my riding is done with 40/13. That's where I was today. Of course there is nothing remotely resembling a grade in any direction.
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Old 09-20-20, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I wonder, when was the last time I used my front derailleur?
Back in my younger days I used to pretty much only shift the FD, leave the RD in some middle gear and tough it through most terrain imperfections. Builds stronger muscles IMO. For me it was never about the endurance you need for long distance or racing where the gearing had to be optimal. That was a time when 10 speeds was plenty and 21 was just overkill and if you favored overkill you were considered a wimp.

Times have changed.
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I also tend to shift only the front. I agree with everything Billy said.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
On flattish terrain, how strong must the headwind be to justify shifting to the small ring?

Discuss.

when it’s necessary.
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Old 09-20-20, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
after the first job the silver spoon piece of paper becomes much less valuable. Asking the right job specific questions will find the person who can do what is required. When i review resumes the school attended carries little to no weight.
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i’m pretty sure an earnest poll would find you in the minority. There is a substantial reason why so many people who can afford to are willing to spend the extra money to go to an elite college and get a degree. It ain’t fair, but when does that matter nowadays?
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Old 09-20-20, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Prednisone is over the counter here. Not there?
Really? That stuff can mess a person up if mishandled.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
On flattish terrain, how strong must the headwind be to justify shifting to the small ring?

Discuss.
Does it change depending on what size your chainrings are?
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I see. that shift count isn't very useful other than general comparison with other rides. I usually don't skip a cog when shifting unless i encounter a big gradiant change. I bet on a tandem you shift a lot more.
Nobody said that, or at least I didn’t, that it was useful. In fact, I have to search for it in the data to even see it.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Should have tried the small ring.
All that does is let me go slower and take longer. I just did 300w and toughed it out. NBD.

The small ring is for when you can't put out the required power for the required duration.
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I can’t believe people would brag about how little they shift.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Back in my younger days I used to pretty much only shift the FD, leave the RD in some middle gear and tough it through most terrain imperfections. Builds stronger muscles IMO. For me it was never about the endurance you need for long distance or racing where the gearing had to be optimal. That was a time when 10 speeds was plenty and 21 was just overkill and if you favored overkill you were considered a wimp.

Times have changed.
I'm the opposite, especially with 11-30 rear and flattish terrain. Of course there's also my massive guads.
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I can’t believe people would brag about how little they shift.
haven't you noticed by now? we're stupid.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Does it change depending on what size your chainrings are?
53/39 12-25 is the only way to roll. #SeriousCycling
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Not sure what was wrong this morning. Felt off, it seemed like my rate was higher than normal, it was harder to breath, and I wasn’t moving very fast. It was 51 degrees when I started, and I had a hard time getting my body where I wanted it. I kept shedding my wind breaker and putting it back on. It’s only going to get colder.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
haven't you noticed by now? we're stupid.
We?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
We?
yes, and you are the leader in the clubhouse by a large margin.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Not sure what was wrong this morning. Felt off, it seemed like my rate was higher than normal, it was harder to breath, and I wasn’t moving very fast. It was 51 degrees when I started, and I had a hard time getting my body where I wanted it. I kept shedding my wind breaker and putting it back on. It’s only going to get colder.
maybe it's the plague or you weren't shifting enough. What else could it be?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
53/39 12-25 is the only way to roll. #SeriousCycling
The 39t little ring is already a concession to weakness.

Even so, the "standard" snobs usually push the 39t as general use and the 52t for descending and drafting.
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Really? That stuff can mess a person up if mishandled.
How so?
The only things requiring prescriptions are antibiotics and the stronger stuff. I can buy Prozac with ease but was refused Xanax. I tried it just to see.
I keep Prednisone around and use it on the very rare occasion.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The 39t little ring is already a concession to weakness.

Even so, the "standard" snobs usually push the 39t as general use and the 52t for descending and drafting.
Here in flatland PHX, I stay in the 52. Launch from lights in the 52x23, then up to the 17 for cruising.
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