Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Show Your Vintage MTB Drop Bar Conversions

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Show Your Vintage MTB Drop Bar Conversions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-23-20, 11:10 AM
  #6851  
dickbandit 
Senior Member
 
dickbandit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 92

Bikes: 1980 Peugeot PFN-10, 1989 Bridgestone MB-3, 1988 Univega Alpina Uno, 1974 Velosolex Saint Tropez, 1995 Trek 830, 1986 Lotus Odyssey, 1987 Schwinn Mirada, 1987 Raleigh Elkhorn

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked 99 Times in 32 Posts
Yet another update on the Univega Alpina Uno. This bike has been getting a lot of mileage lately and I felt it was time to give it some well-deserved upgrades.

I built a new wheelset with 36 hole Sun Rhyno Lites laced to an 8/9 speed LX hub in the rear and a Kasai dynamo hub in the front. Stock wheel was a 6 speed so I had to cold set the dropouts from 130 to 135.

Changed the rear mech to a modern Deore to handle the 8 speed cassette.

Wired up a Busch and Muller IQ-x headlight and a secula plus tail light.

Threw on some SKS fenders for the fall and winter. Outfitted the front with a Velo Orange mudflap.

I'm really loving where this is right now. No build is ever "done"... but this feels damn close.


dickbandit is offline  
Likes For dickbandit:
Old 09-23-20, 11:17 AM
  #6852  
wintermute
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 459

Bikes: 1980 Motobecane Grand Jubile, 1986 Kuwahara ATB, 2006 Bianchi Volpe, 2016 Salsa Fargo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked 29 Times in 17 Posts
Like others have said, take a bike you're already comfortable on, measure the stack and the "cockpit" reach (saddle to hand position on the bars). Now, pull up the specs on 1990 Hardrocks (shouldn't be hard to find), and do a lot of trigonometry. Using the head tube and seat tube angles, and top tube and seat tube lengths, calculate how much reach and stack the frame itself gets you. Figure out how high your saddle will ride above that and calculate the additional length in x- (reach) and y-dimensions. add those stacks and reaches together, and subtract them from your "comfortable" stack and reach. Now you know how much reach and elevation you need to make up with the stem. Start looking at the specs for different stems, the most important being quill length to max insertion, angle, and length. Play around with those until it matches up with your comfortable bike. Trigonometry, trigonometry, trigonometry!

-This coming from the guy with the ugliest bike on the board that needed around 9" bar elevation above the frame!
wintermute is offline  
Old 09-23-20, 01:02 PM
  #6853  
fishboat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 1,851

Bikes: Lemond '01 Maillot Jaune, Lemond '02 Victoire, Lemond '03 Poprad, Lemond '03 Wayzata DB conv(Poprad), '79 AcerMex Windsor Carrera Professional(pur new), '88 GT Tequesta(pur new), '01 Bianchi Grizzly, 1993 Trek 970 DB conv, Trek 8900 DB conv

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 810 Times in 471 Posts
Originally Posted by wintermute
Like others have said, take a bike you're already comfortable on, measure the stack and the "cockpit" reach (saddle to hand position on the bars). Now, pull up the specs on 1990 Hardrocks (shouldn't be hard to find), and do a lot of trigonometry. Using the head tube and seat tube angles, and top tube and seat tube lengths, calculate how much reach and stack the frame itself gets you. Figure out how high your saddle will ride above that and calculate the additional length in x- (reach) and y-dimensions. add those stacks and reaches together, and subtract them from your "comfortable" stack and reach. Now you know how much reach and elevation you need to make up with the stem. Start looking at the specs for different stems, the most important being quill length to max insertion, angle, and length. Play around with those until it matches up with your comfortable bike. Trigonometry, trigonometry, trigonometry!

-This coming from the guy with the ugliest bike on the board that needed around 9" bar elevation above the frame!
Lest we scare anyone off here..working up a trig solution is one successful path, but not the only path. While I'm comfortable with trig(minor in math), I didn't need it to make an accurate estimate of what would be needed to reach a comfortable bike. The process I described above only requires a few simple measurements and the web stem calculator.
fishboat is offline  
Old 09-23-20, 03:23 PM
  #6854  
mattk42
Junior Member
 
mattk42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 166
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked 48 Times in 19 Posts
I just kinda went for it and seemed to luck out. The Rockhopper I bought is a few inches smaller than my road bike frame. With a short 30 degree riser stem, I have a pretty small saddle to bar drop and it's quite comfortable. But, had I been more familiar with bike frame geometry I likely would have gone through the steps to ensure I could have a reasonable setup.
mattk42 is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 07:37 AM
  #6855  
ZudeJammer
Full Member
 
ZudeJammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 170

Bikes: Fuji Touring Series V 1985, Motobecane Grand Touring 1982, Specialized Stumpjumper 1993, Raleigh International 1972, Raleigh Grand Prix 1972, Kuwahara Count 1983, Trek Cirrus 1987, Shogun 2001 1983, Cannondale SM700 1990

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 90 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times in 96 Posts



18" Stumpjumper Pro 1992, top tube 22", got rid of the old Deore LX 175mm 48-38-28, brakes are setup pretty tight right now and the indexing is working great (thanks xenologer for the tip! I didn't even need to file anything down: https://www.bikeforums.net/14179409-post9.html). I'm 5'9.75" and the bike really feels much more upright and closer but I just built it last night so need more time to test it. Stems at full extension in both pics. Shoutout to RJ the Bike Guy and BikemanforU, I could not have done it without their help.
Crust Towel Rack 645mm $120
Stronglight Impact 165mm 48-38-25 $105
UN-55 73x113 $30
Nitto MT-10 100mm $70
MKS UB-Lite $37
Soma Striated Bar Tape $16
Sunlight Cable Hanger $10
Cane Creek hoods $11
Dia-Compe Red Dot with Safety Levers, used $10
Sunour α-3000, used $15
+ some cables and housings
Total = quite a bit more than I paid for the bike

Last edited by ZudeJammer; 09-25-20 at 08:22 PM.
ZudeJammer is offline  
Likes For ZudeJammer:
Old 09-24-20, 08:35 AM
  #6856  
suttonjp
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Thanks for this reply (and the link to the calculator). Very helpful.
suttonjp is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 10:11 AM
  #6857  
Padgett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas+Mississippi
Posts: 65

Bikes: All City Gorilla Monsoon, 1985 Fat Chance Competition, 90s Kona Cinder Cone, 1973 Schwinn Le Tour

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 24 Posts
Fat Drop Bar


My current college commuter. Finally made the conversion. Loving this bike. Absolutely eats up the gravel around here. (bar end shifters, FD & RD are incoming. plz do not look at my zip tied thumbie)
Padgett is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 11:16 AM
  #6858  
ofajen
Cheerfully low end
 
ofajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,978
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 646 Post(s)
Liked 1,044 Times in 667 Posts
Originally Posted by Padgett

My current college commuter. Finally made the conversion. Loving this bike. Absolutely eats up the gravel around here. (bar end shifters, FD & RD are incoming. plz do not look at my zip tied thumbie)
Nice tires! 👍 I run Race Kings on my drop bar RockHopper when conditions warrant.

Otto
ofajen is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 12:16 PM
  #6859  
bOsscO
bOsscO
 
bOsscO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 746

Bikes: 2024 Spec Crux, 2015 Norco Search S1, 93 Mongoose IBOC COMP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 296 Post(s)
Liked 355 Times in 212 Posts
Originally Posted by Padgett

My current college commuter. Finally made the conversion. Loving this bike. Absolutely eats up the gravel around here. (bar end shifters, FD & RD are incoming. plz do not look at my zip tied thumbie)
Looks rad.
bOsscO is offline  
Likes For bOsscO:
Old 09-24-20, 12:37 PM
  #6860  
Padgett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Texas+Mississippi
Posts: 65

Bikes: All City Gorilla Monsoon, 1985 Fat Chance Competition, 90s Kona Cinder Cone, 1973 Schwinn Le Tour

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by ofajen
Nice tires! 👍 I run Race Kings on my drop bar RockHopper when conditions warrant.

Otto
They're phenomenal tires for the money, IMO! is your rockhopper in this thread?
Padgett is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 01:08 PM
  #6861  
dunkleosteus
on the wheels of steel
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: the LBC
Posts: 57

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 14 Posts
Making some progress on my 84 Trek 850 build! It started as just a frame and fork and I finally got it to a state that I can ride it around the block. I did this with some temporary parts so I could test the fit and because I was impatient. The seat tube is about 54cm and the top tube is 58cm. I tried to reduce the reach with a short reach stem and bars. I think it could be improved with a zero setback seatpost (holy seat tube angle batman!) but it feels pretty good so far. The ride is very very smooth and surprisingly zippy on these big tires. I can see how this thing would make a fun (though terrifying) mountain bike.

The full build will eventually include gears and two entire brakes!


dunkleosteus is offline  
Likes For dunkleosteus:
Old 09-24-20, 01:58 PM
  #6862  
bOsscO
bOsscO
 
bOsscO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 746

Bikes: 2024 Spec Crux, 2015 Norco Search S1, 93 Mongoose IBOC COMP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 296 Post(s)
Liked 355 Times in 212 Posts
Originally Posted by dunkleosteus
Making some progress on my 84 Trek 850 build! It started as just a frame and fork and I finally got it to a state that I can ride it around the block. I did this with some temporary parts so I could test the fit and because I was impatient. The seat tube is about 54cm and the top tube is 58cm. I tried to reduce the reach with a short reach stem and bars. I think it could be improved with a zero setback seatpost (holy seat tube angle batman!) but it feels pretty good so far. The ride is very very smooth and surprisingly zippy on these big tires. I can see how this thing would make a fun (though terrifying) mountain bike.

The full build will eventually include gears and two entire brakes!


Another great build sporting these Maxxis DTH tires. I've been trying to order a set and they're either sold out or super pricey.
bOsscO is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 02:16 PM
  #6863  
dunkleosteus
on the wheels of steel
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: the LBC
Posts: 57

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by bOsscO
Another great build sporting these Maxxis DTH tires. I've been trying to order a set and they're either sold out or super pricey.
Thanks! Yeah it's hard to find tires these days. I think you can find these in 26x2.3 around for ~ 40 each, which is a decent price for any folding tire and a lot cheaper than RTPs. Still pricey, but I consider them a key part of the build.
dunkleosteus is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 03:20 PM
  #6864  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,454
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 527 Times in 320 Posts
Originally Posted by bOsscO
Another great build sporting these Maxxis DTH tires. I've been trying to order a set and they're either sold out or super pricey.
I have a pr on the way from Bikeinn. $74 for the pr with shipping, which didn’t seem terrible to me. I ordered black but I think they also had skinwall.
due ruote is offline  
Likes For due ruote:
Old 09-24-20, 04:05 PM
  #6865  
bOsscO
bOsscO
 
bOsscO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 746

Bikes: 2024 Spec Crux, 2015 Norco Search S1, 93 Mongoose IBOC COMP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 296 Post(s)
Liked 355 Times in 212 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote
I have a pr on the way from Bikeinn. $74 for the pr with shipping, which didn’t seem terrible to me. I ordered black but I think they also had skinwall.
Dude you are my SAVIOUR!!! I just ordered a pair (26"X2.15" skinwalls) from BikeInn for $86 shipping included. Should arrive mid-October.
bOsscO is offline  
Likes For bOsscO:
Old 09-24-20, 04:39 PM
  #6866  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,454
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 527 Times in 320 Posts
Originally Posted by bOsscO
Dude you are my SAVIOUR!!! I just ordered a pair (26"X2.15" skinwalls) from BikeInn for $86 shipping included. Should arrive mid-October.
Well cool; I hope we both like them!
due ruote is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 05:54 PM
  #6867  
fishboat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 1,851

Bikes: Lemond '01 Maillot Jaune, Lemond '02 Victoire, Lemond '03 Poprad, Lemond '03 Wayzata DB conv(Poprad), '79 AcerMex Windsor Carrera Professional(pur new), '88 GT Tequesta(pur new), '01 Bianchi Grizzly, 1993 Trek 970 DB conv, Trek 8900 DB conv

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 810 Times in 471 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote
Well cool; I hope we both like them!
PR? I got nuthin..
fishboat is offline  
Old 09-24-20, 07:34 PM
  #6868  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,454
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 527 Times in 320 Posts
Originally Posted by fishboat
PR? I got nuthin..
pair
due ruote is offline  
Old 09-25-20, 05:57 AM
  #6869  
fishboat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 1,851

Bikes: Lemond '01 Maillot Jaune, Lemond '02 Victoire, Lemond '03 Poprad, Lemond '03 Wayzata DB conv(Poprad), '79 AcerMex Windsor Carrera Professional(pur new), '88 GT Tequesta(pur new), '01 Bianchi Grizzly, 1993 Trek 970 DB conv, Trek 8900 DB conv

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 810 Times in 471 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote
pair
Ah..I knew it was obvious, just was drawing a blank.

I'm tempted to pick up a PR of the DTH tires, though their website is confusing. On the blackwalls they list the wheel size as 26-650". On the gumwall page they say the wheel size is both 26-650" and Etrto: 52/54-559(which should be the correct size). Confusing..
fishboat is offline  
Old 09-25-20, 06:29 AM
  #6870  
ofajen
Cheerfully low end
 
ofajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,978
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 646 Post(s)
Liked 1,044 Times in 667 Posts
Originally Posted by Padgett
They're phenomenal tires for the money, IMO! is your rockhopper in this thread?
Yes... here’s a recent photo. I have the smooth tires on since it’s still warm and relatively dry conditions.




Otto
ofajen is offline  
Likes For ofajen:
Old 09-28-20, 11:03 AM
  #6871  
SergueiGatorski
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 3 Posts
Updates !

Campy Record 10s shifters & RD
11-36t cassette & 38-24t crankset
-17° 110mm stem
ITM carbon seat post
Ultra light (315g) 1.95" tires with some knobs
Purple bottle cages ;D
Total W : 22lbs

I know, my drivetrain is a bodge, my that's just what I had in the shed (except the shiftmate). I'm thinking about replacing it with Deore 1x12s, but I don't know how to mount the shifter on the bars... Any suggestions ?
SergueiGatorski is offline  
Likes For SergueiGatorski:
Old 09-28-20, 11:12 AM
  #6872  
bOsscO
bOsscO
 
bOsscO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 746

Bikes: 2024 Spec Crux, 2015 Norco Search S1, 93 Mongoose IBOC COMP

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 296 Post(s)
Liked 355 Times in 212 Posts
Originally Posted by SergueiGatorski
Updates !

Campy Record 10s shifters & RD
11-36t cassette & 38-24t crankset
-17° 110mm stem
ITM carbon seat post
Ultra light (315g) 1.95" tires with some knobs
Purple bottle cages ;D
Total W : 22lbs

I know, my drivetrain is a bodge, my that's just what I had in the shed (except the shiftmate). I'm thinking about replacing it with Deore 1x12s, but I don't know how to mount the shifter on the bars... Any suggestions ?
Pic of said updates?
bOsscO is offline  
Old 09-28-20, 11:18 AM
  #6873  
SergueiGatorski
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by bOsscO
Pic of said updates?
You can't see the picture ?
SergueiGatorski is offline  
Old 09-28-20, 11:30 AM
  #6874  
dunkleosteus
on the wheels of steel
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: the LBC
Posts: 57

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 14 Posts
Looks like a fun ride! What's the frame?
dunkleosteus is offline  
Old 09-28-20, 11:33 AM
  #6875  
SergueiGatorski
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by dunkleosteus
Looks like a fun ride! What's the frame?
Massi tange prestige, that's all I know..
SergueiGatorski is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.