Keep Your Through Axle Away From Me
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06-07-19, 11:20 PM
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06-08-19, 03:46 AM
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exactly. Just don't design or allow pointed ends on quick release levers. I have seen the sharp threaded end of quick release levers axle sticking out the side of the nut on the non quick release side. Nice cuts and gouges from that too!
06-08-19, 02:37 PM
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About 3 frames/forks that i have bought in tha last 10 years have had the option of somehow going trough axle. and not a single time have i gone that route.
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
06-08-19, 02:48 PM
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All i can say is that before we had 100mm qr up front
130/135 out back. 135 was needed for disc.
there was 2 diffrent bb standards, ITA and BSA
Now we have 37 BB "standards", one crappier than the other.
we have 135qr, 142TA, 142TA boost, 150mm, 150 TA i guess there are more. and we have different axle diameters. 12,, 15, 20mm etc etc.
then we have 100mm qr, 110mm 20mm, 110 15mm, 110 15mm boost. etc etc etc.
is this a joke?? sure looks like it.
I however have only the regular standard for everything. 100mm qr up front, disc or not, and 130qr or road bikes with calipers and 135mm qr with discs. easy as that. how much more simple can possibly be? and that also enabled be to get hold of the biggest selection of available hubs at the best prices for any !standards"! double win!
130/135 out back. 135 was needed for disc.
there was 2 diffrent bb standards, ITA and BSA
Now we have 37 BB "standards", one crappier than the other.
we have 135qr, 142TA, 142TA boost, 150mm, 150 TA i guess there are more. and we have different axle diameters. 12,, 15, 20mm etc etc.
then we have 100mm qr, 110mm 20mm, 110 15mm, 110 15mm boost. etc etc etc.
is this a joke?? sure looks like it.
I however have only the regular standard for everything. 100mm qr up front, disc or not, and 130qr or road bikes with calipers and 135mm qr with discs. easy as that. how much more simple can possibly be? and that also enabled be to get hold of the biggest selection of available hubs at the best prices for any !standards"! double win!
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06-09-19, 09:53 AM
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That guy is such a ***** compared to the track rider with the 2' wood splinter the length of his leg. This is also a reminder to be sure you have bar plugs in place. I met someone who took a core sample.
06-09-19, 12:53 PM
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About 3 frames/forks that i have bought in tha last 10 years have had the option of somehow going trough axle. and not a single time have i gone that route.
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
06-09-19, 02:49 PM
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Need has nothing to do with it. We buy the latest and greatest because these are toys and we like them to be as awesome as possible.
QR's were holding on just fine, (aside from operator error), even with DH bikes. Through axles are just stiffer, and harder to use incorrectly. Stiffer is better when it comes to hub axles, particularly when suspension is involved.
It's not a conspiracy.
QR's were holding on just fine, (aside from operator error), even with DH bikes. Through axles are just stiffer, and harder to use incorrectly. Stiffer is better when it comes to hub axles, particularly when suspension is involved.
It's not a conspiracy.
About 3 frames/forks that i have bought in tha last 10 years have had the option of somehow going trough axle. and not a single time have i gone that route.
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
i even got a carbon fork for my pro cross and i just looked at and said not gonna happen! got a surly disctrucker instead.
For a road bike i simply don't see the need for TA at all. but the industry "need to reinvent themselves" so i fully understand that they are pushing this crapola on customers.
since it makes the older stuff "obsolete" faster.
For dh/freeride/enduro mtb i get it. the qr wont hold the wheels in there. simple as that. but for road bikes, this is not the case. you dont do 30ft drops. 360 backflips.
I have never had any problems with my shimano qr's so i'm very reluctant to even change anything, since for me there is no reason for it.
My last lysnkey came mounted from the factory with some TA dropout (had to get a new one) and i researched this. and nowhwere could i find what thead and axle diameter it was!! how the f is that even possible. and then looking at crc there was no axles available at all. except some 80-100€ axles and you gotta be f-ing pooping me, I'm not paying 100€ for threaded alu tube!! I can just as well make it myself out of hardox500 or 4340 or 6al4v in 10 minutes for that money.
I'm not saying TA is S though. but for me at least i fail to see how it would in any way make my bikes better. or safer. nall my bikes are road going though. even my "mtbs".
06-10-19, 08:15 PM
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The willingness of people to talk **** about people on the internet who they don’t know, even in jest, is pretty incredible sometimes.
06-10-19, 08:40 PM
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Brake levers are more dangerous than QR levers IME.
