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Old 10-06-18, 06:21 AM
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How Do I Remove Old Zeus Crankset?

Picked up a '72 Raleigh Competition at an estate sale. Mostly Zeus . I'm guessing I'm going to have to grind down a socket? 16mm?

Any other ideas?
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How's it different than other cranks ?

I use an old Park wrench with 14, 15, 16 mm sizes for crank bolts.
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High-end sockets from e.g. Snap-On, old USA-made Craftsman, etc. tend to be thinner than inexpensive sockets and will fit in the arm. 16mm "peanut-butter" wrenches from Zeus and Park were also available BITD and turn up on eBay (but the 14-15-16 Park crank wrench does not fit the Zeus arm). Otherwise, yeah, you'll need to grind down a socket to fit.

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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
How's it different than other cranks ?
Zeus uses a 16mm bolt in a 22mm extractor hole. This leaves minimal clearance for a socket to fit in the hole. Stronglight also used a 16mm bolt, but their extractor hole was 23.35mm wide.

I use an old Park wrench with 14, 15, 16 mm sizes for crank bolts.
While the 16mm socket on the Park 14-15-16mm wrench fits into a Stronglight am, it is too thick to fit into the Zeus arm. Park did make a 16mm thin-wall peanut-butter wrench to fit Zeus cranks (the CCW-16).
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16mm 12 Point sockets

12 point sockets usually have thinner walls than 6 point sockets. As John mentioned above older Craftsman sockets had thin walls. 3/8" drive sockets are usually thinner than 1/2" drive sockets.

There are several Craftsman 16mm 12 Point 3/8" Drive Sockets #44311 listed on eBay for ~$4.00 plus free shipping.



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Nah, whatcha really need here is...

A spark plug socket.
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...the one time, on the one bike I had to do this, it turned out to be easier (because I have a bench grinder) to just take an odd 16 mm socket and thin the wall. i still have it in the tool box somewhere, and will probably never use it again, because of course when you reassemble the thing, you want to use a crank bolt with a smaller, 15mm head. Or one of those socket headed ones that precludes the need for a dust cap.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
High-end sockets from e.g. Snap-On, old USA-made Craftsman, etc. tend to be thinner than inexpensive sockets and will fit in the arm. 16mm "peanut-butter" wrenches from Zeus and Park were also available BITD and turn up on eBay (but the 14-15-16 Park crank wrench does not fit the Zeus arm). Otherwise, yeah, you'll need to grind down a socket to fit.

...is there any bicycle tool of which you do not own at least one ?
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My ZEUS crank comes off with regular park crank puller?
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I found that a surplus 5/8" socket was perfectly sized for a 16mm bolt head, so I spun it against my grinder wheel until it fit into the threaded crankarm bore.

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Thanks all. I found a beat out 16mm 12-pt. socket and ground it down. It did the trick to pull the bolts. A Park CCP-22 pulled off the arms. My Campy puller and and an off-brand puller wouldn't fit the Zeus threads.

Were there dust caps that went with this set or was the bolt designed with the wide top to preclude the use of a dust cap?
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The Zeus Gran Sport, Competition, Criterium & early 2000 model chainsets came without a dustcap. Their fixing bolts are chrome plated.

Some of the later model Zeus chainsets did come with dustcaps.

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Originally Posted by juvela
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The Zeus Gran Sport, Competition, Criterium & early 2000 model chainsets came without a dustcap. Their fixing bolts are chrome plated.

Some of the later model Zeus chainsets did come with dustcaps.

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that's true my z 2000 now has rusty chrome bolts
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Originally Posted by cqlink
Picked up a '72 Raleigh Competition at an estate sale. Mostly Zeus . I'm guessing I'm going to have to grind down a socket? 16mm?

Any other ideas?
pics please sound like a cool find
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Originally Posted by long john
My ZEUS crank comes off with regular park crank puller?
The Zeus extractor thread is standard 22mm x 1mm, so the Park crank puller works fine for that part of the job. But the mounting bolts are 16mm, rather than the more typical 15 or 14mm, and need a thin-wall socket for removal. Many people simply replaced the 16mm Zeus bolts with 15 or 14mm bolts to simplify removal with more common tools.
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Originally Posted by long john

that's true my z 2000 now has rusty chrome bolts
My Zeus 2000 crank came with titanium bolts. No rust on them!

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Originally Posted by long john

pics please sound like a cool find
Done. Started a new thread.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
My Zeus 2000 crank came with titanium bolts. No rust on them!

you might have a ti bottom bracket also it was an option. I didn't have the $ at the time so I down grades to criterium.
i tried to send a pic but this blog doesn't like my apple products.
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Originally Posted by cqlink
Were there dust caps that went with this set or was the bolt designed with the wide top to preclude the use of a dust cap?
The New Racer group definitely came with dust caps.

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Originally Posted by Choke
The New Racer group definitely came with dust caps.


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Thanks very much for posting this set.

It is about third generation New Racer.

The original (or prototype) set is illustrated in this advert from 1981 -



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Originally Posted by juvela
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Thanks very much for posting this set.

It is about third generation New Racer.

The original (or prototype) set is illustrated in this advert from 1981 -



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Here's the whole group I have....NOS from an eBay seller in Germany a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by long john
you might have a ti bottom bracket also it was an option.
Oh yes, it definitely has the titanium bottom bracket.
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