First gen Dura Ace group
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First gen Dura Ace group
No stem, no seatpost, no pedals (these are SR pedals).
A mix of black and silver.
Hoods are aftermarket, crank dust caps are plastic knockoffs, brake clamps are Campagnolo.
I'm not certain that the bottom bracket (not pictured) is first gen DA but I'm pretty sure. Headset included but J haven't knocked the cups out of the frame yet.
Hubs are laced to 700c Weinmann Concave rims. Skewers aren't DA, but they are 1st Gen 600.
What do you think I'm getting for all of this? Would I be better to unlace the hubs? Should I track down any parts?
A mix of black and silver.
Hoods are aftermarket, crank dust caps are plastic knockoffs, brake clamps are Campagnolo.
I'm not certain that the bottom bracket (not pictured) is first gen DA but I'm pretty sure. Headset included but J haven't knocked the cups out of the frame yet.
Hubs are laced to 700c Weinmann Concave rims. Skewers aren't DA, but they are 1st Gen 600.
What do you think I'm getting for all of this? Would I be better to unlace the hubs? Should I track down any parts?
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Not sure how the market is in US at the moment, but in UK/Europe is pretty dire for vintage bikes and parts. My suggestion would be to split the Campagnolo pedals (If they are indeed Superleggeri) from the rest as they will appeal to different audience and command better prices anyhow. Anodising on the big ring has faded, UV rays do that.
May be better to sell it as individual parts, perhaps do so after advertising it as a groupset first. Don't think bar end shifters are from same era. GLWS
May be better to sell it as individual parts, perhaps do so after advertising it as a groupset first. Don't think bar end shifters are from same era. GLWS
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at the 1973 launch for DA there was no saddle pillar, headset, pedal or rear gear mech
brakes were DA stamped Tourney CP
a Crane model rear mech was used
headset supplied by Tange
pedals supplied by KKT
the above two companies were Shimano partners in their JBM keiretsu (trade group)
1973 trade publication advert -
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at the 1973 launch for DA there was no saddle pillar, headset, pedal or rear gear mech
brakes were DA stamped Tourney CP
a Crane model rear mech was used
headset supplied by Tange
pedals supplied by KKT
the above two companies were Shimano partners in their JBM keiretsu (trade group)
1973 trade publication advert -
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Not sure how the market is in US at the moment, but in UK/Europe is pretty dire for vintage bikes and parts. My suggestion would be to split the Campagnolo pedals (If they are indeed Superleggeri) from the rest as they will appeal to different audience and command better prices anyhow. Anodising on the big ring has faded, UV rays do that.
May be better to sell it as individual parts, perhaps do so after advertising it as a groupset first. Don't think bar end shifters are from same era. GLWS
May be better to sell it as individual parts, perhaps do so after advertising it as a groupset first. Don't think bar end shifters are from same era. GLWS
And when I say these are SR pedals, I mean Sakae-Ringyo, not Super Record.
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the black anodised finish is something not available at launch for the DA ensemble
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the black anodised finish is something not available at launch for the DA ensemble
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[QUOTE=jPrichard10;23144926]That's funny, the market is so low in the US right now. Yes, it looks only AUS keeps the prices up at the moment, here in UK you can choose and pick some fabolous bikes for not much, some for less than half they were a year or so ago.
AH that SR, well they do not hold any real value, but they do the job just fine... As Juvela mentioned some DA parts were not at all available at start and some were not even black. I happened to have 2 groupsets which I'm slowly selling off in parts, but they were complete, headset/bb/hubs etc included. Very good quality stuff.
AH that SR, well they do not hold any real value, but they do the job just fine... As Juvela mentioned some DA parts were not at all available at start and some were not even black. I happened to have 2 groupsets which I'm slowly selling off in parts, but they were complete, headset/bb/hubs etc included. Very good quality stuff.
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for the crankset alone, sure.
as a whole group, especially with those hubs/wheelset, that is ridiculously low.
just sold a set of those hubs/original skewers alone for $70 (friend pricing). if i had those rims pictured above on those hubs, i would not have broken down the wheels (mine had mismatched rims).
as a whole group, especially with those hubs/wheelset, that is ridiculously low.
just sold a set of those hubs/original skewers alone for $70 (friend pricing). if i had those rims pictured above on those hubs, i would not have broken down the wheels (mine had mismatched rims).
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I'd say you could expect to get $250-$350 for the group set as shown. If the rims are in good cosmetic and functional shape, I'd leave the wheels complete. If the rims are worn, unlace the hubs. If you clean and polish everything to a high shine, and then take really nice photos, you could get up to $500 but it could take a while until the right person sees the set.
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