Post pics of your bar ends
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Post pics of your bar ends
I am now riding a flat bar but spend many years with a riser bar. Trying to get used to it and thought bar ends might be a good idea to get my hands higher from time to time. I am interested in seeing different types of bar ends and want to know the angles they are set at. I would have to get an adapter for the bar ends since I have a Trek 7.4 FX - I see that Trek sells the adapter for $12. Thanks for sharing any pics and for any tips on adapting to the lower bar. I do notice a bit of neck cramping for trying to look up, but I know I am not doing any damage - it is probably good for me to use the neck muscles!
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I replaced my Specialized grips with the Ergon GP2 grips. Didn't really want anything bigger with regards to bar ends. Just wanted something to give me different positions while riding.
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I went with this product, and am very happy with it:
Evo Ergonomic Bar Ends - Evolution Cycles-Richmond Hill,Ontario
I think the same thing is available under several different brand names.
Here is what it looks like on my bike, subtle and not too imposing (unlike some curve around metal ones!)
Similar to Ergon GP2 layout, but since I already had the extremely comfortable Bontrager Satellite Elite "screw down platform" grips standard on my bike, I did not want to re-buy similar grips that come with the GP2. These are be a bit cheaper (since they don't include grips). And I found the bar end part more contoured, ergonomic, with softer grippy surface, and a bit longer than the GP2.
These bar ends can just be added next to your existing grips, and have a hidden screw clamp that goes on tight around your handlebar (no way it will slip or twist). I find I have 3 comfortable positions: 1) Around the standard grips with wrist horizontal. 2) Four fingers around the end of barren with wrist vertical. 3) With palms wresting on the front of barrend, and two fingers and thumb straddling back of barren with wrist in between horizontal and vertical.
I originally could hardly ride 15 minutes before I got numb and tingly hands and shoulder/arm sensations ... from too many years of bad posture IT work! I found the following alleviated the issue completely, I can now ride for hours with no hand problems:
1) Good gloves with some padding.
2) Added bar-ends.
3) Grips, bar-ends, and brakes levers meticulously adjusted.
4) Flipping between different hand positions every 10 minutes.
Basically you want your wrist straight (not bent up or bent down pinching nerves), and in a neutral position avoiding pressure points. For the grips/brake-levers I rotated them so that from my riding position - my wrist flows horizontally in a straight line with my arm, straight over the contoured grip platform through to the two fingers over the brake levers (grips rotates up towards me a few degrees, and brake levers down away from me a few degrees). For the bar ends I rotated them a few degrees up away from me so that my wrist is vertically straight with my arm while riding. I sometimes see bar-ends pointing up, this would result in the wrist being bent upwards (again pinching nerves).
How many degrees exactly should everything be? The best way is to bring Allen keys with you on a long ride, and keep re-adjusting every 15 minutes to get wrists as neutral as possible and eliminate pressure points with various riding positions. Your body will tell you when it is just right! You will not figure this out just going down the driveway.
Apologies for the over elaborate answer to your questions, but I see so many questions on this forum "my hands go numb, will bar ends help?" I figured I would document my experience.
Evo Ergonomic Bar Ends - Evolution Cycles-Richmond Hill,Ontario
I think the same thing is available under several different brand names.
Here is what it looks like on my bike, subtle and not too imposing (unlike some curve around metal ones!)
Similar to Ergon GP2 layout, but since I already had the extremely comfortable Bontrager Satellite Elite "screw down platform" grips standard on my bike, I did not want to re-buy similar grips that come with the GP2. These are be a bit cheaper (since they don't include grips). And I found the bar end part more contoured, ergonomic, with softer grippy surface, and a bit longer than the GP2.
These bar ends can just be added next to your existing grips, and have a hidden screw clamp that goes on tight around your handlebar (no way it will slip or twist). I find I have 3 comfortable positions: 1) Around the standard grips with wrist horizontal. 2) Four fingers around the end of barren with wrist vertical. 3) With palms wresting on the front of barrend, and two fingers and thumb straddling back of barren with wrist in between horizontal and vertical.
I originally could hardly ride 15 minutes before I got numb and tingly hands and shoulder/arm sensations ... from too many years of bad posture IT work! I found the following alleviated the issue completely, I can now ride for hours with no hand problems:
1) Good gloves with some padding.
2) Added bar-ends.
3) Grips, bar-ends, and brakes levers meticulously adjusted.
4) Flipping between different hand positions every 10 minutes.
Basically you want your wrist straight (not bent up or bent down pinching nerves), and in a neutral position avoiding pressure points. For the grips/brake-levers I rotated them so that from my riding position - my wrist flows horizontally in a straight line with my arm, straight over the contoured grip platform through to the two fingers over the brake levers (grips rotates up towards me a few degrees, and brake levers down away from me a few degrees). For the bar ends I rotated them a few degrees up away from me so that my wrist is vertically straight with my arm while riding. I sometimes see bar-ends pointing up, this would result in the wrist being bent upwards (again pinching nerves).
How many degrees exactly should everything be? The best way is to bring Allen keys with you on a long ride, and keep re-adjusting every 15 minutes to get wrists as neutral as possible and eliminate pressure points with various riding positions. Your body will tell you when it is just right! You will not figure this out just going down the driveway.
Apologies for the over elaborate answer to your questions, but I see so many questions on this forum "my hands go numb, will bar ends help?" I figured I would document my experience.
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Grips almost worn through. I prefer to have my horns in the middle lol.
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Do you find that you can adjust the bar end angle more upright so your body more upright with the Ergo?
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steve...thanks for your experiences. I would also like to ride longer than 10 miles and my old bike with riser bars did not have the gearing - we are way to hilly here. The Trek fx 7.4 does the hills nicely, but the bar is low for me and can't be adjusted any higher. Short of switching out the bar, hoping bar ends would get me up higher from time to time to enjoy the view! I will check these out. Can you alter the angles on the EVO bar end or is the angle preset when you put them on the ends of the bar?
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steve...thanks for your experiences. I would also like to ride longer than 10 miles and my old bike with riser bars did not have the gearing - we are way to hilly here. The Trek fx 7.4 does the hills nicely, but the bar is low for me and can't be adjusted any higher. Short of switching out the bar, hoping bar ends would get me up higher from time to time to enjoy the view! I will check these out. Can you alter the angles on the EVO bar end or is the angle preset when you put them on the ends of the bar?
Or perhaps something like this angled up with an alternate higher horizontal position. (I have never tried these, so not sure how comfortable that position would be)
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If you want to sit in a more upright position most of the time, I would just get a stem riser instead. They're cheap and will make your handlebars sit up higher.
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Never tried those "wrap around" bar ends. How useful/comfortable is that extended second horizontal wrist position, with the bar-end installed at the correct "a few degrees above horizontal"? How often do you ride that position? I would imagine it creates a very stretched out stance.
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Never tried those "wrap around" bar ends. How useful/comfortable is that extended second horizontal wrist position, with the bar-end installed at the correct "a few degrees above horizontal"? How often do you ride that position? I would imagine it creates a very stretched out stance.
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some of these bar ends look really cool! i think thats going to be my next purchase on my bike the second i come across any.
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I has my LBS install bar ends on my trek 7.2FX very similar to these along with new Ergon grips due to my hands going numb after 5-6 miles. The new bar ends were metal and they moved my old grips onto the bar ends and it came out great! I took it on an initial 13 mile ride and had no numbness at all, so I consider it worth every penny.
The Evo Ergo can be rotated 360 degrees. You can point them straight up if you want. However, I think that defeats the purpose of a comfortable wrist position as your wrist will bend up holding them vertically. If you want a higher stance, what you want is a "quill extender", or a different "handle bar stem" to get the handlebar in the position you are comfortable with. (either of these will probably not be more expensive that nice bar-ends, and can still be used in conjunction with bar ends). The default geometry of the FX is kind-of more like a road-bike with flat bars, rather than a comfort/cruiser hybrid.
Or perhaps something like this angled up with an alternate higher horizontal position. (I have never tried these, so not sure how comfortable that position would be)
Or perhaps something like this angled up with an alternate higher horizontal position. (I have never tried these, so not sure how comfortable that position would be)
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It's not whether flat, its whether theres a curve and a certain amount of speed. Although for uphill I have learned from these forums that cutting the wind does not matter below the speed of 15mph, so once I go below that speed is when I switch.
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tried this "combo" for a while when I started commuting with an old MTB. then I got a hybrid bike, then finally a road bike
those bolt on drop bars were awkward cuz of the angle of the straight bars which really weren't straight. I also tried them on the hybrid but had the same issue.
I liked the high bar ends for the multitude of positions, in particular resting my hands at the very top of them, especially when out of the saddle.
those bolt on drop bars were awkward cuz of the angle of the straight bars which really weren't straight. I also tried them on the hybrid but had the same issue.
I liked the high bar ends for the multitude of positions, in particular resting my hands at the very top of them, especially when out of the saddle.
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I heard those add on drop bars have to be placed towards the inside (like your last pic). If placed on the outside like bar ends (as in your first few pics), it will be way too wide and just feel wrong.
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A 2013 DS 8.4 with small bar ends.... Snap Steve (BBB Ergostiks)
I actually originally dropped into my LBS and got sold some "standard" horns. I walked back to the office, looked at them and decided they were too big and "ugly" and went directly back and swapped them for the Ergostiks. Really like them and probably spend about 80% of my time on them. Best $20 I spend on the DS.
I actually originally dropped into my LBS and got sold some "standard" horns. I walked back to the office, looked at them and decided they were too big and "ugly" and went directly back and swapped them for the Ergostiks. Really like them and probably spend about 80% of my time on them. Best $20 I spend on the DS.
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A 2013 DS 8.4 with small bar ends.... Snap Steve (BBB Ergostiks)
I actually originally dropped into my LBS and got sold some "standard" horns. I walked back to the office, looked at them and decided they were too big and "ugly" and went directly back and swapped them for the Ergostiks. Really like them and probably spend about 80% of my time on them. Best $20 I spend on the DS.
I actually originally dropped into my LBS and got sold some "standard" horns. I walked back to the office, looked at them and decided they were too big and "ugly" and went directly back and swapped them for the Ergostiks. Really like them and probably spend about 80% of my time on them. Best $20 I spend on the DS.
I also had some standard metal curved horns in my hand at the LBS, that the sales guy recomended. Walked over to a Trek DS they had on the floor, held the bar ends to the handlebar ... and no way I wanted my bike looking like that! Then held these to the handlebar, and looked nice and discrete in comparison!