chain relube
10-16-12, 01:16 PM
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chain relube
my motobecane tandem came with the most slimy drivetrain I have ever seen
Before any action was to be done-I measured the chains to see if they were worn out.
my luck, all that slime, they were perfect and not worn at all
I would have preferred to just purchased new shiny chains....
what I did was remove the chains, deraileurs and cranks and did a thorough pressurewashing of everything.
now the chains have sat on the boiler for a few days to be sure they are free of water.
I got chain oil but I just love the waxy stuff on a new chain- what is it?
mike
Before any action was to be done-I measured the chains to see if they were worn out.
my luck, all that slime, they were perfect and not worn at all
I would have preferred to just purchased new shiny chains....
what I did was remove the chains, deraileurs and cranks and did a thorough pressurewashing of everything.
now the chains have sat on the boiler for a few days to be sure they are free of water.
I got chain oil but I just love the waxy stuff on a new chain- what is it?
mike
10-16-12, 04:15 PM
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Sheldon claimed that no one knows what lube they use on new chains. He liked it, too, and wished he knew where to get it.
I've worked on bikes like that. It's pretty awful. Let us know if you get it clean and if you think it's worth the effort. I would just toss the chain, but getting the other stuff clean won't be easy.
I've worked on bikes like that. It's pretty awful. Let us know if you get it clean and if you think it's worth the effort. I would just toss the chain, but getting the other stuff clean won't be easy.
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10-16-12, 04:23 PM
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Good gawd!
If you are froogle, Parks CT-5, ,mineral spirits and a tooth brush. Or just buy new chain, you'll still want some mineral spirits and toothbrush for all the sprockets.
Waxy stuff on a new chain?... Depends on what chain you are referring too. Some of the chains I purchased came with some nice machine grease and some come with just some oily mess that it's only purpose is to prevent rusting when shipping. And not good as a lube.
If you are froogle, Parks CT-5, ,mineral spirits and a tooth brush. Or just buy new chain, you'll still want some mineral spirits and toothbrush for all the sprockets.
Waxy stuff on a new chain?... Depends on what chain you are referring too. Some of the chains I purchased came with some nice machine grease and some come with just some oily mess that it's only purpose is to prevent rusting when shipping. And not good as a lube.
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Eww, gross. Did they just cover their eyes and spray lube at the bike?
From what I've read, "Gleitmo" is the stuff applied to SRAM chains at the factory.
From what I've read, "Gleitmo" is the stuff applied to SRAM chains at the factory.
Originally Posted by Fuchs Lubritech GmbH
[h=1]gleitmo 582[/h] [h=2]Beige chain lubricant[/h] [h=3]Description[/h] gleitmo 582 is a white, adhesive semi-synthetic grease with solid lubricants, liquefied with a solvent which is free of aromatic compounds for easy penetration into the cavities of the chain.
gleitmo 582 is in liquid form when applied, but becomes a stringy, adhesive grease which can neither be thrown off nor washed away by water after the gradual evaporation of the solvent. gleitmo 582 is also largely resistant to acids and lyes and provides reliable protection against corrosion.
[h=3]Fields of application[/h] gleitmo 582 is used for low-speed and high-speed power-transmitting chains of all types within a temperature range from -15 to +120 °C. gleitmo 582 also protects your chain when used in areas where resistance to water and steam as well as resistance to acids and lyes is required.
gleitmo 582 is in liquid form when applied, but becomes a stringy, adhesive grease which can neither be thrown off nor washed away by water after the gradual evaporation of the solvent. gleitmo 582 is also largely resistant to acids and lyes and provides reliable protection against corrosion.
[h=3]Fields of application[/h] gleitmo 582 is used for low-speed and high-speed power-transmitting chains of all types within a temperature range from -15 to +120 °C. gleitmo 582 also protects your chain when used in areas where resistance to water and steam as well as resistance to acids and lyes is required.
10-16-12, 08:28 PM
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I'd soak your chain in mineral spirits to make sure that all of the old oil has been taken off of the chain. Once that dries, I'd recommend putting on some Chain-L (made by forum user FBinNY). It's as close as you're going to get to the lube that comes on a new chain. It lasts for hundreds of miles (I just went 950 miles without having to reapply it), and if applied correctly, your drivetrain will be relatively clean after the first 150 or so miles. FBinNY can talk more about his product.
10-17-12, 01:14 PM
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"Eww, gross"
I pressure washed the chains off the bike for half an hour and it is really clean
I even found slime on the rear brake shoes!
turned out to be a sedis front and sachs rear chain- they are clean enough to touch and not get dirty now.
actually they were worth saving.
I got chain lube but was hoping to find something as good as new.
I know sheldon liked the stuff on new chains, thats what I was wondering about.
the off road motorcycle guys- they have by far the worst conditions and I think we could learn from them about chain lube
I pressure washed the chains off the bike for half an hour and it is really clean
I even found slime on the rear brake shoes!
turned out to be a sedis front and sachs rear chain- they are clean enough to touch and not get dirty now.
actually they were worth saving.
I got chain lube but was hoping to find something as good as new.
I know sheldon liked the stuff on new chains, thats what I was wondering about.
the off road motorcycle guys- they have by far the worst conditions and I think we could learn from them about chain lube
10-18-12, 08:22 AM
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Nice work getting that stuff off of there. No doubt the bikers are staying up on chain lube.
10-18-12, 10:51 AM
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The OEM lube used on most chains is defined as a adhesive grease
This grease has a high viscosity and is heated to lower the viscosity and the chains are submerged in the grease and then allowed to cool so it's doubtful you are going to be able to replicate it exactly. Best case is to use a thick viscosity oil and give it time to soak in (as mentioned before Chain-L is a good product). As far as your bike goes, it's pretty obvious the seller added to the OEM chain grease with an aerosol chain oil; you're example shows why that is not a recommended method of oiling a chain.
BTW, how is the tandem riding going; my wife says it's better and more fun than marriage consulting.
gleitmo 582 is a white, adhesive semi-synthetic grease with solid lubricants, liquefied with a solvent which is free of aromatic compounds for easy penetration into the cavities of the chain
BTW, how is the tandem riding going; my wife says it's better and more fun than marriage consulting.
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10-18-12, 11:05 AM
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I would like to ask a bit of an OT question. I just cleaned a new chain and lubed it with White Lightening as I am going to ride the GAP&C&O. I had put A wet lube on it before I cleaned it and rode a bit. It seems that the chain is not as quiet with White Lightening.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
10-18-12, 01:21 PM
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I would like to ask a bit of an OT question. I just cleaned a new chain and lubed it with White Lightening as I am going to ride the GAP&C&O. I had put A wet lube on it before I cleaned it and rode a bit. It seems that the chain is not as quiet with White Lightening.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
10-18-12, 06:09 PM
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It is the Clean Lube.
10-18-12, 07:34 PM
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Leave the factory lube on the chain.
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Most While Lightening products are either Teflon and/or wax (the Clean Ride is wax). While dry lubes keep the chain clean, they don't stay on the chain long and need to be re-applied constantly (this is the mecanism that keeps the chain clean). They also have a tendency to build up in the derailleur slowing it's performance. The wet lube, while it attracts dirt stays on much longer and stands up to water, which the dry lubes do not. The key is to apply a minimal amount of wet lube and copious amount of dry lube..
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I will REALLY lube the chain beore and during this trip. I am only using White Lightening because of all the grit and dirt I will run into while riding the GAP & C&O.
