Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Shimano/Alfine 8, axle replace or build wheel?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Shimano/Alfine 8, axle replace or build wheel?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-30-20, 11:11 AM
  #1  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Shimano/Alfine 8, axle replace or build wheel?

I have three /Shimano/Alfine 8's and one is on my wheel that I broke the axle where the nut is. Hope I am explaining this okay. I can't put the wheel on because there isn't enough thread left since it broke off on one side, if that helps. Anyway, I am wondering if I should have a wheel built with one of the other hubs or take two hubs apart and replace the axel on the wheel that is already built? Can you pull the axle without getting all involved in this, or do I have to deal with like 13 parts to switch it out?

Cost is a big factor as this is one of my commuting bikes that gets beat up in winter and such. The bike isn't worth that much. I never built a wheel, but would consider it if it isn't that hard.

Suggestions? I am in Pittsburgh if someone knows a shop. I just got back from one that sort of made is sound like I am sunk on this one.
h_curtis is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 12:51 PM
  #2  
Dan Burkhart 
Senior member
 
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 8,117
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 943 Post(s)
Liked 658 Times in 371 Posts
Originally Posted by h_curtis
I have three /Shimano/Alfine 8's and one is on my wheel that I broke the axle where the nut is. Hope I am explaining this okay. I can't put the wheel on because there isn't enough thread left since it broke off on one side, if that helps. Anyway, I am wondering if I should have a wheel built with one of the other hubs or take two hubs apart and replace the axel on the wheel that is already built? Can you pull the axle without getting all involved in this, or do I have to deal with like 13 parts to switch it out?

Cost is a big factor as this is one of my commuting bikes that gets beat up in winter and such. The bike isn't worth that much. I never built a wheel, but would consider it if it isn't that hard.

Suggestions? I am in Pittsburgh if someone knows a shop. I just got back from one that sort of made is sound like I am sunk on this one.
Depending on the model number on the hubs you have the internal assemblies are probably interchangeable.
If the model number is SG-S500 it might not be compatible with newer model’s. If the S500 logo is underlined it is a S500 B which is compatible with the SG-S501 hubs and can be interchanged.
I don’t know if the more recent S7000 internals can be swapped into the older hub shells because I have not tried it.
Dan Burkhart is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 01:00 PM
  #3  
Bill Kapaun
Really Old Senior Member
 
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Posts: 13,873

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1795 Post(s)
Liked 1,269 Times in 876 Posts
Hillrider lives in Pittsburgh. Maybe PM him to see if he can help.
He started the thread below- "CarbonCycles Forks?"
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 05:17 PM
  #4  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
Depending on the model number on the hubs you have the internal assemblies are probably interchangeable.
If the model number is SG-S500 it might not be compatible with newer model’s. If the S500 logo is underlined it is a S500 B which is compatible with the SG-S501 hubs and can be interchanged.
I don’t know if the more recent S7000 internals can be swapped into the older hub shells because I have not tried it.
Good to know. I will look at that. Your advice could save me a hundred for sure.

Hoping to get guidance, but I know this isn't a normal question. Thanks all.
h_curtis is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 05:19 PM
  #5  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Hillrider lives in Pittsburgh. Maybe PM him to see if he can help.
He started the thread below- "CarbonCycles Forks?"
I'll give it a shot. Bike shops around here are insanely busy. Some just laugh at my situation. UGH. Must be nice to be that confident in future business after COVID is over.
h_curtis is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 06:28 PM
  #6  
Bill Kapaun
Really Old Senior Member
 
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Posts: 13,873

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1795 Post(s)
Liked 1,269 Times in 876 Posts
Originally Posted by h_curtis
I'll give it a shot. Bike shops around here are insanely busy. Some just laugh at my situation. UGH. Must be nice to be that confident in future business after COVID is over.
Would you trust a LBS that wasn't busy during this time?
Successful bike shops are always busy this time of the year. It's Winter when they starve.
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Old 06-30-20, 09:03 PM
  #7  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
Would you trust a LBS that wasn't busy during this time?
Successful bike shops are always busy this time of the year. It's Winter when they starve.
So? I usually fix my bikes myself, but this is more than I usually do. Do I build a wheel, or dig into the 8 speed? That is my question. It isn't about bike shops as much. They could care less if I can commute to work on my bike, they are living great with massive increase in sales and service. I would rather fix this myself, but I don't think anyone knows how to take these apart. I guess i could build a wheel, but that is quite a learning experience.

I am looking for advice or direction. Many shops don't want to touch this when they can make a buck much easier.

Last edited by h_curtis; 06-30-20 at 09:21 PM.
h_curtis is offline  
Old 07-02-20, 07:29 AM
  #8  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Just in case anyone searches, rebuilding a Alphine 8 is more difficult and involved in building a wheel, or at least that is my findings in my area. I am either going to build a wheel myself or have a friend build it.

Enjoy your ride!
h_curtis is offline  
Old 07-02-20, 07:43 AM
  #9  
dscheidt
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,428
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 32 Post(s)
Liked 18 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by h_curtis
Just in case anyone searches, rebuilding a Alphine 8 is more difficult and involved in building a wheel, or at least that is my findings in my area. I am either going to build a wheel myself or have a friend build it.

Enjoy your ride!
QBP used to offer a couple of prebuilt alfine 8 wheels. They were pretty good deals. I have one on my bike, which cost less than the hub and rim would have had I done it myself. If they're still available, you could go that route.
dscheidt is offline  
Old 07-07-20, 07:02 PM
  #10  
h_curtis
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
h_curtis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 579

Bikes: 80's Roberts road bike, Nashiki, ECR, Guerciotti and Penny Farthing

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Well this is a wilder ride than expected. My old hub that needed replaced was a 36 spoke hub and my other two were 32 spoke hubs. Ah, the job got tougher. The job is at a wheel builder here in Pittsburgh and he noticed this right away. UGH. He was going to get another rim and so on, but he decided to exchange the insides of one hub to another. I will fill in on details as I get them. Glad I know some bad ass people here in the Burgh that know bikes very well. Yahoo!

Now if I was to do this myself, I would look at this video.


Last edited by h_curtis; 07-07-20 at 07:19 PM.
h_curtis is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.