Best new small AWD SUV for taking a bike standing up w/front wheel removed
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Best new small AWD SUV for taking a bike standing up w/front wheel removed
I'm looking for a new small AWD SUV that can take a bike standing up w/front wheel removed. I want to be able to sleep in the back of the car next to the bike, so it does me no good to know that it's easy to put the bike lying on its side, because then there won't be any room for me to sleep next to the bike. Reason to get a new AWD car is that my wife will be driving it a lot in the winter and I want something rock-solid and reliable.
Honda Element would have been perfect for this, but of course they're not made anymore.
Appreciate any ideas you have.
Thanks,
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Honda Element would have been perfect for this, but of course they're not made anymore.
Appreciate any ideas you have.
Thanks,
Nick
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Sport Utility Vehicle | Toyota RAV4 2015 Crossover SUV
RAV4 is pretty good. You might need to lower your seat but it should work the way you want it to
RAV4 is pretty good. You might need to lower your seat but it should work the way you want it to
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Our 2013 Honda CRV takes two bikes in exactly the same way you described without needing to drop the saddle down.
Great little SUV, a bit slow on the freeway mostly due to the pathetic 5 speed automatic transmission. Honda will eventually replace it with a 6 or 7 speed auto I hope.
Unfortunately, it will more than likely get a droning CVT.
Great little SUV, a bit slow on the freeway mostly due to the pathetic 5 speed automatic transmission. Honda will eventually replace it with a 6 or 7 speed auto I hope.
Unfortunately, it will more than likely get a droning CVT.
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I drive an older MDX, but neither it nor an Element are 'small' in my book. Maybe CRV or newer RDX? Mazda CX-5 is nice on the MPG, but a little underpowered.
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If it was me I'd go with either a Subaru Forester XT or Ford Escape 2.0l.
I have a 2014 Ford Escape and can fit my road bike standing up no problem. I do have to lower the seat on my 29er though.
I wanted to like the CRV, but I couldn't get over that anemic power plant that Honda puts in that thing. It was as slow as a turtle when I test drove it. Same with the Rav4.
Here's a couple of photos, one with my girlfriends 26" and my 29" mtb in the back.
I also added this nice roof box, helps with fitting all of our extra crap. Only hurt the mileage by maybe 1 MPG.
I have a 2014 Ford Escape and can fit my road bike standing up no problem. I do have to lower the seat on my 29er though.
I wanted to like the CRV, but I couldn't get over that anemic power plant that Honda puts in that thing. It was as slow as a turtle when I test drove it. Same with the Rav4.
Here's a couple of photos, one with my girlfriends 26" and my 29" mtb in the back.
I also added this nice roof box, helps with fitting all of our extra crap. Only hurt the mileage by maybe 1 MPG.
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Our 2013 Honda CRV takes two bikes in exactly the same way you described without needing to drop the saddle down.
Great little SUV, a bit slow on the freeway mostly due to the pathetic 5 speed automatic transmission. Honda will eventually replace it with a 6 or 7 speed auto I hope.
Unfortunately, it will more than likely get a droning CVT.
Great little SUV, a bit slow on the freeway mostly due to the pathetic 5 speed automatic transmission. Honda will eventually replace it with a 6 or 7 speed auto I hope.
Unfortunately, it will more than likely get a droning CVT.
The 2015 CR-V sadly went to CVT....so I would look for a used one. To me a CVT ruins an otherwise good vehicle and for that reason alone I wouldn't buy one:
2015 Honda CR-V First Drive - KickingTires
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You might want to take a look at the VW Tiguan. My wife and I both have VW Jetta Sportwagen TDIs and have been extremely impressed with the quality that VW is putting out. My wife's next vehicle will almost certainly be a VW Tiguan.
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Well then VW has turned over a new leaf. Last 15 years VW has ranked near the bottom of quality. Replacement parts are also very expensive out of warranty.
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As much as I like the CVT in principle, I hate it in execution for its drone like quality.
The 2015 CR-V sadly went to CVT....so I would look for a used one. To me a CVT ruins an otherwise good vehicle and for that reason alone I wouldn't buy one:
2015 Honda CR-V First Drive - KickingTires
The 2015 CR-V sadly went to CVT....so I would look for a used one. To me a CVT ruins an otherwise good vehicle and for that reason alone I wouldn't buy one:
2015 Honda CR-V First Drive - KickingTires
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Plus VW nickels and dimes you to death on options. Unlike Honda/Acura that just equip the car the way I want it, VW advertises a low price on a nearly stripped version and then robs you blind for the features to load it up. Very poor value proposition compared to Honda.
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As much as I like the CVT in principle, I hate it in execution for its drone like quality.
The 2015 CR-V sadly went to CVT....so I would look for a used one. To me a CVT ruins an otherwise good vehicle and for that reason alone I wouldn't buy one:
2015 Honda CR-V First Drive - KickingTires
The 2015 CR-V sadly went to CVT....so I would look for a used one. To me a CVT ruins an otherwise good vehicle and for that reason alone I wouldn't buy one:
2015 Honda CR-V First Drive - KickingTires
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Thanks for all the comments so far. I bit the bullet and went and tried to fit my bike into some cars, yesterday.
RAV4 was a "Go" -- the fit was tight but I could stand my bike up (front wheel removed) either facing forward or backward.
Forester and Outback were a "No Go" -- the ceiling height is just too low.
CR-V was a "Go" -- easy fit, facing either direction.
Still looking ... though at the moment CR-V seems most likely ...
RAV4 was a "Go" -- the fit was tight but I could stand my bike up (front wheel removed) either facing forward or backward.
Forester and Outback were a "No Go" -- the ceiling height is just too low.
CR-V was a "Go" -- easy fit, facing either direction.
Still looking ... though at the moment CR-V seems most likely ...
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Thanks for all the comments so far. I bit the bullet and went and tried to fit my bike into some cars, yesterday.
RAV4 was a "Go" -- the fit was tight but I could stand my bike up (front wheel removed) either facing forward or backward.
Forester and Outback were a "No Go" -- the ceiling height is just too low.
CR-V was a "Go" -- easy fit, facing either direction.
Still looking ... though at the moment CR-V seems most likely ...
RAV4 was a "Go" -- the fit was tight but I could stand my bike up (front wheel removed) either facing forward or backward.
Forester and Outback were a "No Go" -- the ceiling height is just too low.
CR-V was a "Go" -- easy fit, facing either direction.
Still looking ... though at the moment CR-V seems most likely ...
Did you check out the Ford?
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I hear it's cool to drive a Lincoln now. Wooderson drove sales way up.
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Do you want a nice car or simply the most cost efficient bike hauler? I just got this BMW X3 (x35i 300 hp version), and two road bikes will fit in standing up, front wheel off, seatpost lowered (but then I needed to do both those things with the larger Honda Pilot that the BMW replaced). It ain't the most value for the money, but it certainly is a blast to drive. If I was going for most efficient and effective, it would have been the Subaru. No big deal to lower the seatpost, even with Di2 electronics inside.
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I drive a truck, but the wife has a 2013 Cadillac SRX with AWD and it fits both bikes in the bake without any problems. The amount of room that thing has in the back is amazing.
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Very nice gc3. Looks like you got it. All you hoped for?
Do you want a nice car or simply the most cost efficient bike hauler? I just got this BMW X3 (x35i 300 hp version), and two road bikes will fit in standing up, front wheel off, seatpost lowered (but then I needed to do both those things with the larger Honda Pilot that the BMW replaced). It ain't the most value for the money, but it certainly is a blast to drive. If I was going for most efficient and effective, it would have been the Subaru. No big deal to lower the seatpost, even with Di2 electronics inside.
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I find it curious that you can fit the bike into RAV4/CR-V. My bike, set to 30" inseam, is about 3" too tall (without the front wheel) to fit into the new Forester. And Forester is taller than either RAV4 or CR-V(externally). All three SUVs have compact spares under the trunk floor. There must be some small differences in internal design, like, maybe, less (no) padding between the spare and the trunk floor, that leave more room in the CR-V. Also, are you sure you were looking at AWD versions? It's quite possible that AWD requires additional hardware that raises the trunk floor.
Keep in mind that RAV4 and CR-V have low ground clearance (barely higher than Camry/Accord), so their offroad potential is extremely limited and even thick snow could be a problem.
Keep in mind that RAV4 and CR-V have low ground clearance (barely higher than Camry/Accord), so their offroad potential is extremely limited and even thick snow could be a problem.
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It is a great ride...the X3 accelerates and handles like a buttoned-down rocket when you put it in Sport mode....will cruise all day averaging 28+ mpg in Eco Pro mode....build is rock-solid, at least in this brand-new condition, without a squeak or groan so far. I'm impressed, but then this is my first BMW after a long, long time driving Japanese cars.
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It is a great ride...the X3 accelerates and handles like a buttoned-down rocket when you put it in Sport mode....will cruise all day averaging 28+ mpg in Eco Pro mode....build is rock-solid, at least in this brand-new condition, without a squeak or groan so far. I'm impressed, but then this is my first BMW after a long, long time driving Japanese cars.
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My mother in law has an older model Ford Escape (FWD) and has been nothing but pleased with it although the reviews tend to be mixed, I found it to be a very nice vehicle to drive and the cited 27mpg / hwy appears to be fairly accurate. As she lives in a place that can get 300 inches of snow there is also a full sized Dodge pickup with four wheel drive in the garage for when things gets really nasty.
She does plan to trade in her FWD Escape for a vehicle with AWD capability and think the Honda CRV AWD would be a nice move up in quality for her and she does not carry as much stuff as we tend to do. My 23 year old JEEP gets comparable mileage to the Escape if I keep my foot out of it and it has a lot more off road and towing capability as it is a truck and not a crossover.
If the older Escape suits your lifestyle it might be something to look at... the depreciation you take on new vehicles is quite severe and I prefer the look of the older Escape and think it might have a little more interior space.