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Old 03-24-16, 10:15 AM
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Article: Known doper stealing your KOM's

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This whole strava deal is just weird. Especially how serious people take it.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
This whole strava deal is just weird. Especially how serious people take it.
Indeed.
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They do this now with age where you can filter on KOM by age.

So a pull down field where you can explain your ride in order of most honorable:
1 Solo
2 Group
3 Tail wind
4 Motor pace
5 On drugs
6 Holding car
7 In the car
8 Motor in bike

Then you can filter and see all drugged and non drugged (self reported) there are.
I don't think Strava should edit anything.
We'll maybe somethings. I'd prefer they not have decent only KOMS, but descent are part of the course.

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Originally Posted by Lazyass
This whole strava deal is just weird. Especially how serious people take it.
Kudos to you for that...
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I'm not competitive anymore. I did a ton of high school and college sports. When you grow up you don't have time to really be in race shape unless you're hella motivated and work a stress-free job/life.
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I'm not competitive anymore. I did a ton of high school and college sports. When you grow up you don't have time to really be in race shape unless you're hella motivated and work a stress-free job/life.
Hard intervals are how I deal with stressful days. 90 minutes of shutting out everything except fighting your instinct to let up is as good as any meditation for clearing your mind.
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To me Strava is great just like it is. Its like a casino. Just a trap for morons.
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its easy if you dont assume youre an elite athlete and can be competitive with the KOMs. especially if you live in an area like boulder, or a densely-populated place.

i love having stats of acquaintances on the segments to use as a reference. top 5 placing are for younger people live on the bike and get paid to ride. not for the rest of us holding down corporate jobs
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
This whole strava deal is just weird. Especially how serious people take it.
I think a lot of people just take it with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by Doge
I would like to see a sell reporting. They do this now with age where you can filter on KOM by age.

So a pull down field where you can explain your ride in order of most honorable:
1 Solo
2 Group
3 Tail wind
4 Motor pace
5 On drugs
6 Holding car
7 In the car
8 Motor in bike

Then you can filter and see all drugged and non drugged (self reported) there are.
I don't think Strava should edit anything.
We'll maybe somethings. I'd prefer they not have decent only KOMS, but descent are part of the course.
Might as well add a few more categories:

9) Flying Start at the bottom of the hill
I've got my eye on a 20+ MPH, 1/2 mile hill climb KOM (I have #3 at the moment), and hit the bottom of the hill at 33 mph. The current KOM holder took a different route to the bottom and hit it at 13 MPH for a much more impressive climb.
10) Slow riders that will sprint once in a while vs fast riders. It is always interesting to see the KOMs of riders snagged just riding along on newly defined segments.

Originally Posted by redfooj
its easy if you dont assume youre an elite athlete and can be competitive with the KOMs. especially if you live in an area like boulder, or a densely-populated place.

i love having stats of acquaintances on the segments to use as a reference. top 5 placing are for younger people live on the bike and get paid to ride. not for the rest of us holding down corporate jobs
I suppose one can pay to see age references on Strava.

Apparently many "Masters" riders can be very competitive, but I always think that I'm competing with riders half my age on Strava.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo
To me Strava is great just like it is. Its like a casino. Just a trap for morons.
I love them, therefore I am ...
It is fun. It is also reflective of some really good performances and riding ability. I think most viewers can sort out the names they see and know vs. the unknowns with super-hero names.

It is not a race, just like training rides and grand fondo. Still - I like looking at KOMs esp on new roads and encouraging junior to grab one every now and then.
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
Hard intervals are how I deal with stressful days. 90 minutes of shutting out everything except fighting your instinct to let up is as good as any meditation for clearing your mind.
+1

Hill repeats with everything I've got, and I'm too tired to care about whatever it was that had me in a bad mood earlier.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
This whole strava deal is just weird. Especially how serious people take it.
There are significantly more people lamenting how serious people take strava than there are people taking strava seriously.

The article gives too much time to strava and not enough time to the actual people he was cheating in races all over.
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There are significantly more people lamenting how serious people take strava than there are people taking strava seriously.
No I don't think so.
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No I don't think so.
Yeah, not even close.

And Strava is like the new and improved Crossfit. You can compete against your small local group now with running, cycling, whatever... instead of just lifting and doing burpees.

I'm an ex-crossfitter. I did that gig for almost 2 years. Only thing I really enjoyed and wanted to do more of was olympic lifts.

Even the people that are 'good at crossfit' don't do crossfit. They jam a ton of PEDS into their bodies and then do heavy heavy lifting, some skill work, and some cardio. Their training for winning the games is nothing remotely close to what an advertised workout of the day is at a regular crossfit gym.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
No I don't think so.
You'd be all over it if it was invented at the beginning of the last century.
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Is this guy snagging KOMs along a 50 mile ride?

It should still leave openings for those who wish to soft pedal to the beginning of the segments, then hammer them hard.
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Its nice for finding suburban trails. There's a trail near my house with 3 people so I'm getting ready for my first 4th place finish. And I'm going to setup the hill climb to my house to see how long I can hold onto that before I see people riding up the dead end hill trying to take my kom. It does force me to try and go faster when I've been a more casual rider. I'll have to try not to let it consume me.
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Its nice for finding suburban trails. There's a trail near my house with 3 people so I'm getting ready for my first 4th place finish. And I'm going to setup the hill climb to my house to see how long I can hold onto that before I see people riding up the dead end hill trying to take my kom. It does force me to try and go faster when I've been a more casual rider. I'll have to try not to let it consume me.
Do you establish your own segments that you can then 'compete' with yourself and others on? Like, who actually sets up a segment that is then able to be contested?
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
You'd be all over it if it was invented at the beginning of the last century.
One of these days someone will commit suicide because they lost a kom thingy, like kids do over facebook posts. Very odd times we live in.
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Originally Posted by topslop1
Do you establish your own segments that you can then 'compete' with yourself and others on? Like, who actually sets up a segment that is then able to be contested?
You can set a segment and keep it private or make it public. If private your rides will be the only one logged to that segment even if other riders go through it and if made public it's open to anyone and each PR will be displayed on the leader board.
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No one is taking my KOMUP.
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Just another reason to not give a crap of Strava KOM's.
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