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Old 02-10-11, 03:01 PM
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Right tool for the bike.

Every time I was servicing my bike I was having a panic attacks. I was afraid to clamp it over a setapost, top tube or anything in the matter of fact. Now, I am very confident at least that stand is not going to do any harm to my frame.

Park Tool PRS-20 Folding Team Race Stand. Compact, really smart design and very cool looking I think Very recommended to a paranoid cyclists with carbon frames

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B-b-b-but what about the bottom bracket area???
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Old 02-10-11, 03:23 PM
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my trainer is my work stand. zero problems for two whole bike builds and countless adjustments

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Originally Posted by Inertianinja
my trainer is my work stand. zero problems for two whole bike builds and countless adjustments

Cool. But it would be a bit difficult with my rollers
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But it's going to ruin your fork!!

Just kidding, glad you found a solution.

I have a Ti bike so I don't care so much about these issues...
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Yep, and it's easy to spin the bike around to work on different areas. Once you go PRS-20 style, you never go back. It's nice to be able to fully torque a BB or crank when in the stand. For cable routing, you just lift the bike up, pivoting it on the fork clamp.
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Originally Posted by ID64
Cool. But it would be a bit difficult with my rollers
you gotta have fast hands, i guess
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I've got the same stand. Love it.
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I bought a far cheaper Euro-style stand a few years ago but forget what it is.

I love the Euro stands because I clean a lot of bikes and it's nice to have them pivot, but not move when you don't want them to. I'll never go back.
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Is this especially good for cleaning your chain and bike?
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What if the adjustment involves the front wheel ?
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
What if the adjustment involves the front wheel ?
You can take the back wheel off and flip the bike around - that's what the second 130mm skewer that is closer to the BB is for.

Another plus I found with the PRS-20 is that it is much more stable than my old clamp-style PRS-5 that I bought about 10 years ago.

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Only problem I have with it is that as a tall-ish person (6'1), it's a little short. Even when its raised up, I'm bent over a bit when doing stuff like derailleur alignments.
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Originally Posted by ID64
Every time I was servicing my bike I was having a panic attacks. I was afraid to clamp it over a setapost, top tube or anything in the matter of fact. Now, I am very confident at least that stand is not going to do any harm to my frame.

Park Tool PRS-20 Folding Team Race Stand. Compact, really smart design and very cool looking I think Very recommended to a paranoid cyclists with carbon frames

not a bad design except that the vertical tube seizes over time and you lose the height adjustment.
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Originally Posted by zeo_max
What if the adjustment involves the front wheel ?
The only adjustment I could think of involving a front wheel is truing, headset adjustment, or something with the brakes - or all stuff that can easily be done with the bike standing.

Originally Posted by Thirstyman
not a bad design except that the vertical tube seizes over time and you lose the height adjustment.
Well then, how could one cure that? Oh right, grease! Just like on a seatpost!
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+1 on the trainer/workstand combo. plus you can hop right on and verify your work, shifting, position setup,...
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Have had one for a while now and if you wash your bike it will seize the center tube pretty badly. I sent mine back and Park was pretty cool, they acknowledged that it is a bit of design flaw, took mine back and dremeled it out and regreased it. Haven't ahd any problems since. They recommended to me to take out the center post ever now and again, remove the plastic sleeve and grease up the insides to keep it from happening again.

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not a bad design except that the vertical tube seizes over time and you lose the height adjustment.
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Originally Posted by travkat
Have had one for a while now and if you wash your bike it will seize the center tube pretty badly. I sent mine back and Park was pretty cool, they acknowledged that it is a bit of design flaw, took mine back and dremeled it out and regreased it. Haven't ahd any problems since. They recommended to me to take out the center post ever now and again, remove the plastic sleeve and grease up the insides to keep it from happening again.
If you want to use your workstand to wash your bike, you should get the PRS-21 instead of the PRS-20. The PRS-21 is supposed to be a lighter more portable version that replaces the chromed steel parts and steel legs with lighter aluminum tubes. I imagine that the reason why those whose PRS-20s seized is because the chromed vertical post became pitted with rust since the knob that you screw into it to hold it in place is going to put a little gouge into the chromed surface every time you engage it.

If you are not going to use your workstand to wash your bike, you should just get the PRS-20 because I think the heft/weight of it is a big part of what makes it so sturdy. That and the fact that it has multiple contact points with the bike, where the clamp-style stands only have one.

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Originally Posted by Inertianinja
my trainer is my work stand. zero problems for two whole bike builds and countless adjustments


Ditto!
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Originally Posted by Quel
Only problem I have with it is that as a tall-ish person (6'1), it's a little short. Even when its raised up, I'm bent over a bit when doing stuff like derailleur alignments.
You can always lower it some and sit on a stool.. I am kind of lazy and do this.

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Every time I was servicing my bike I was having a panic attacks. I was afraid to clamp it over a setapost, top tube or anything in the matter of fact. Now, I am very confident at least that stand is not going to do any harm to my frame.

Park Tool PRS-20 Folding Team Race Stand. Compact, really smart design and very cool looking I think Very recommended to a paranoid cyclists with carbon frames

I have a similar design one, although made and labeled by "Spin Doctor". Very very useful. I've had it for -34 years. Have washed the bikes on it several times without any issues with the vertical tube to this date. Extremely stable. Bought it on sale, but I think the price is considerably lower than the Park Tool even at retail. Heavy though, but folds very compact. I changed the skewers to lightweight ones to save weight though LOL...............

ID64, it does not cease to amaze me how spotless and clean your bike is in every single shot you have ever posted. Beginning to question whether you actually ride the darn thing. Maybe you buff it up before shots?
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