Illusion of "aero" bike frames
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Refuse to believe people think aero bikes look good, regardless of them working or not. Smh. Any time I see one of those UCI-illegal tri-bikes, I'm thankful that for all the bad the UCI has done, they at least spared us from those monstrosities.
What's next, Softrides and Y-frame Treks having cult followings? Nah, that'd never happen.
What's next, Softrides and Y-frame Treks having cult followings? Nah, that'd never happen.
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I bought 'aero' way back in ~1980 because of 'beauty'! I still have this frame and all of the components. The pic shows Campagnolo pedals but some super lightweight Vittoria pedals were put on it for the 'Nth' degree of weight savings. (get your hands off my donut!) Unfortunately, the rubber covers for the Modolos have perished. I will try to figure a way to make repros.
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I believe he works for Airbus (in aerodynamics) so he's probably better qualified than anyone here.
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This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TZwJGrvFY
I believe he works for Airbus (in aerodynamics) so he's probably better qualified than anyone here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TZwJGrvFY
I believe he works for Airbus (in aerodynamics) so he's probably better qualified than anyone here.
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Enve wheels are pretty fast without dimples.
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That's one way to take a pic with your toeclip pedals right side up...
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This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TZwJGrvFY
I believe he works for Airbus (in aerodynamics) so he's probably better qualified than anyone here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TZwJGrvFY
I believe he works for Airbus (in aerodynamics) so he's probably better qualified than anyone here.
He had a huge wheel shootout topic on Slowtwich that went dozens of pages deep and all sorts of weird stuff happening.
I can't say I can follow his stuff after watching that topic unfold.
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Exactly. My point being that everyone goes downhill at some point. So you can go really really fast (air speed, not ground speed). Meaning, the weakest rider imaginable can have measurable times spent in rides at speeds where aero matters a LOT.
I remember my commute to and from work when I traveled to France for 3 weeks. Luckily, the way to work was all downhill into the river valley from Nancy. So no sweaty worker showing up. But, with flappy work clothes I couldn't nearly hit the speeds I could in a race fit kit. Also, it was my cross bike and not my roadie. So slower still. It was also straight enough most parts you could have gone faster.
One morning a pure roadie in road kit caught me going downhill and in one part I was having to put out appreciable power while that guy wasn't even pedaling!
Of course the way home was all uphill. Lol. That took a bit longer.
I remember my commute to and from work when I traveled to France for 3 weeks. Luckily, the way to work was all downhill into the river valley from Nancy. So no sweaty worker showing up. But, with flappy work clothes I couldn't nearly hit the speeds I could in a race fit kit. Also, it was my cross bike and not my roadie. So slower still. It was also straight enough most parts you could have gone faster.
One morning a pure roadie in road kit caught me going downhill and in one part I was having to put out appreciable power while that guy wasn't even pedaling!
Of course the way home was all uphill. Lol. That took a bit longer.
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No one mentioned headwinds yet.
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You are correct. That IS Greg Lemond in the final stage of the 1989 TDF; a time trial. I'll give you three guesses who he made time on and beat; winning the overall victory. He gained those seconds with aero bars and an aero frame (pictured).
Hence the photo of Greg and my comment to ask Laurent Fignon if the aero advantage is real or imagined. (Which is the subject of this thread)
Later that year, Greg snatched the World Professional Road Race gold medal from Laurent (his former teammate). Laurent has since passed on and when I spoke to Greg in June of this year he spoke highly of him.
In my opinion, the 1989 TDF was one of the best in history and ushered in the aero advantage on a much larger scale then ever before.
Hence the photo of Greg and my comment to ask Laurent Fignon if the aero advantage is real or imagined. (Which is the subject of this thread)
Later that year, Greg snatched the World Professional Road Race gold medal from Laurent (his former teammate). Laurent has since passed on and when I spoke to Greg in June of this year he spoke highly of him.
In my opinion, the 1989 TDF was one of the best in history and ushered in the aero advantage on a much larger scale then ever before.
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Didn't someone figure out that if Fignon had tied his hair back he'd have won?
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You are correct. That IS Greg Lemond in the final stage of the 1989 TDF; a time trial. I'll give you three guesses who he made time on and beat; winning the overall victory. He gained those seconds with aero bars and an aero frame (pictured).
Hence the photo of Greg and my comment to ask Laurent Fignon if the aero advantage is real or imagined. (Which is the subject of this thread)
Later that year, Greg snatched the World Professional Road Race gold medal from Laurent (his former teammate). Laurent has since passed on and when I spoke to Greg in June of this year he spoke highly of him.
In my opinion, the 1989 TDF was one of the best in history and ushered in the aero advantage on a much larger scale then ever before.
Hence the photo of Greg and my comment to ask Laurent Fignon if the aero advantage is real or imagined. (Which is the subject of this thread)
Later that year, Greg snatched the World Professional Road Race gold medal from Laurent (his former teammate). Laurent has since passed on and when I spoke to Greg in June of this year he spoke highly of him.
In my opinion, the 1989 TDF was one of the best in history and ushered in the aero advantage on a much larger scale then ever before.
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