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How hard and dangerous is bicycle racing?

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Old 05-10-11, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by badhat
its possible to be both "right" and a giant douch-e
We will all have to defer to your obvious expertise in this area.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
the risk factor is off the charts, especially when you compare it to a sport like golfing.
You could fall of a cliff golfing.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
the risk factor is off the charts, especially when you compare it to a sport like golfing.
Bowling, Bass Fishing, Bad mitten, Ping Pong, Curling.
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It’s kind of an apples and oranges comparison. The vast majority of cyclists leave vast majority races with nothing but muscle fatigue whereas in contact sports, people are beaten and bruised every time they step off the field. The likelihood of a debilitating injury or death when something does go wrong in a bike race is much higher. I think the risks of Cycling are more comparable to sports like Rock-climbing, downhill skiing.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Food for thought . . . take the pads and helmets off football players and let's see who racks up the most injuries.
It's called "rugby" and it is the English ancestor of what you today call "american football"
There aren't that much injuries in rugby but it is a much rougher sport.
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Originally Posted by Flash
Rugby Sevens

This sport truly makes NFL players look like pampered babies.
Incorrect. I've played both sports. In American football you hit differently because of the pads. The pads become weapons in a way. The impacts are much more severe. Not saying its tougher, just saying neither is Rugby/Aussie style either.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
We will all have to defer to your obvious expertise in this area.
what on earth would compel you of all people to take a shot like this?

cmon dude.
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Originally Posted by badhat
what on earth would compel you of all people to take a shot like this?
What compels you?
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Originally Posted by badhat
cmon dude.
Yeah.
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Old 05-10-11, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
What compels you?

to what?

call vaughters a douch-e for his douchy NYT interview?

i'm sory if you were personally offended by that, or misunderstood the post as being directed at you.
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Originally Posted by badhat
to what?

call vaughters a douch-e for his douchy NYT interview?
Yes, that. That in itself is rather dbagesque.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Calling other sports 'a joke' with respect to risk is silly. Plenty of sports carry significant risk of injury, but the risk of mortal injury in pro road cycling is higher than in any sport short of auto racing in my view. I think that's Vaughter's point. The world perceives cycling as some kind of pansy sport, but the truth is quite the opposite.
I would say that bike racing is dangerous for sure, I never really thought about it until yesterday sadly, being rather new to the sport.
But I did a very quick look see and would say that motorcycle racing is worse as far a mortal injuries go.
https://en.wikipedia.org<br /> <br /..._during_a_race Bike races

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ycle_accidents motor cycle racing.

Very sad about yesterdays events... RIP Wouter
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
Incorrect. I've played both sports. In American football you hit differently because of the pads. The pads become weapons in a way. The impacts are much more severe. Not saying its tougher, just saying neither is Rugby/Aussie style either.
Agree. I played strong safety in Am. football and fullback in rugby. You'd be a lot sorer after a rugby match, and you'd have lots of bruises and abrasions, but no one was launching themselves at another guy and possibly breaking ribs and such.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Yes, that. That in itself is rather dbagesque.
well i'm sure he's relieved to know you've got his back on the internet
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Originally Posted by Cateye
Bowling, Bass Fishing, Bad mitten, Ping Pong, Curling.




i think saying which sport is more dangerous is like saying which sport is harder. ESPN (i think) ranked the "hardest" sports a while back, and endurance sports like cycling and rowing weren't particularly high on the list. boxing was #1. sure boxing is hard, but it's a different "kind" of hard. same with danger. going downhill at 60 mph is obviously extremely dangerous, but so is getting tackled or checked 100 times a game. different types of danger, and i think it's all but impossible to compare them.
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there was also pretty close to consensus in that espn article that the hardest single act in sport is hitting a fastball.

which is kind of an absurd thing to rank, but its also, just in terms of physics and coordination and psysiology, pretty hard to argue against.
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Rugby has lots of one-on-one, face-to-face hard hitting, but in football the hits are harder and come from all angles from multiple players. There is no gang tackling in rugby. I've played both. If not for pads, players would get killed in football. Cycling is more dangerous in that the speed is greater, but nobody is actively trying to rip your head off. Injuries are a factor of accidents and very rare. In football and rugby, injuries are a part of the game. I will admit that a 5 hour road race is infinately more grueling than any sport on the planet...but I wouldn't say it's more dangerous.

I think if a professional cyclist did some hitting drills with the All Blacks or the Pittsburg Steelers, he would realize how safe his sport actually is.
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Originally Posted by I_Like_Bike
You could fall of a cliff golfing.
I'd be more likely to fall off a barstool at the 19th hole.
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I've never really understood the need to attempt to legitimize a sport by comparing it to another, especially if it's about measuring man parts by saying one is more dangerous or harder than another. Chalk it up to our competitive nature I guess, and the quote to JV's inferiority compex. Will the effect of the quote be a massive influx of 'macho americans' into bicycle racing? I doubt it. Will the this year's Tour get better ratings than the Super Bowl? I doubt it. Will any of us feel more macho today as we don our lycra? I doubt it.
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Certainly not a complete list, but compelling none-the-less

Deaths in sport
There are some follow-up links there too.

Also
List of professional cyclists who died during a race
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The world perceives cycling as some kind of pansy sport, but the truth is quite the opposite.
dude, i think its just our own country that thinks this way. people go nuts for cycling in europe. regardless, rip wouter weylandt.

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Every sport has its own "safety" concerns. I don't think you could put them up on a board and compare them with any scientific validity.

Falling down at 30 MPH onto a gravel shoulder and sliding 50m sucks.

Getting blindside tackled by a freight-training linebacker who can sprint a 40 in under 4 seconds sucks. On a different level.

Getting a tendon sliced in hockey probably has some degree of suckage to compare it to the other two.

Unfortunately, none of them are comparable in "magnitude"
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Originally Posted by badhat
what on earth would compel you of all people to take a shot like this?
I doubt anything was intended -- you just set yourself up. When someone is bent over a waste treatment pond or tar pit trying to get a better view, some find it difficult to resist giving a little nudge from behind. The result is always funny.
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Originally Posted by pdxtex
dude, i think its just our own country
That's the one we live in. And don't call me 'dude'.
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I doubt anything was intended
My intentions are often bad.
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