Locks and security
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Locks and security
What measures do you take to keep your bike secure?
In the past, I have used a cable and padlock on a cheap bike or a Kryptonite D-ring lock on my good bike. I also will leave my good bike parked in my office if I'm downtown. What methods work for you?
In the past, I have used a cable and padlock on a cheap bike or a Kryptonite D-ring lock on my good bike. I also will leave my good bike parked in my office if I'm downtown. What methods work for you?
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I've been using combination cable locks (no padlack..) exclusively. In winter a pretty thin one as the cold air makes them less flexible. Bikes stolen == 0. Hope this confession doesn't jinx me.
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When I am at work I bring my bike inside the buildying. There is a storage/utility room in my work area. I keep my bike in there during work hours....When I go shopping, run errands, go to the movies, and other places I always lock my bike with a heavy Krypto U lock long shackle (yellow one). I lock the frame/rear wheel together to a solid object...Sometimes I also lock the front wheel with a cable or chain if the bike is outside for a long time... I also use nutted axles instead of quick release. My seat/post is secured with a piece of an old bike chain. My bikes are all dark/black colours and they look scruffy and well used so as not to attract too much attention.
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Thick 6 ft. cable with a large, (heavy) master lock pad lock. Still I usually won't leave the bike, if I "can't SEE it"!! My wife and I take turns guarding the bikes, even when we hook up the utility trailer for a food/supply run. The wife goes in a shops, I haul a "lightweight folding chair" and sit by the "cable locked bike and trailer" (2 locks) and give a EVIL scowl to ANYBODY who comes near the bikes! U-locks weigh a LOT so I'd prefer not use them but I might get a "mini-u" for additional covereage one day. Although my bikes are nice looking, with the "Trekking bars, fenders, etc. most folks don't want that kinda bike as it seems odd, LOL!
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Sounds like a great way to get out of doing the shopping.
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I use a simple frame lock (also called a O lock) and a cable. If it's going to be a quick in and out, I only engage the frame lock which takes all of 2 seconds. If it's going to be longer, more than 5 min, I use the cable and wrap it around something secure and connect it to the frame lock. Though it helps I don't ride a bicycle most would want to steal.
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I've heard some suggest riding a bike which looks ugly, since thieves will not want to steal it. I disagree with this for two reasons. First, I'd rather ride a bike I like and I don't like going with a bike deliberately made ugly. Second, attempts to make a bike ugly will not hide the components on the bike. If a savvy bike thief sees a high-end drivetrain on an otherwise undesirable bike, the bike would be a target.
In some large cities, I've left my bike unlocked in busy areas, but I've also been within sight of the bike. It may be unlocked in front of a mall, but I'm in a coffee shop, taking a break but sitting at the window watching it.
In some large cities, I've left my bike unlocked in busy areas, but I've also been within sight of the bike. It may be unlocked in front of a mall, but I'm in a coffee shop, taking a break but sitting at the window watching it.
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I've heard some suggest riding a bike which looks ugly, since thieves will not want to steal it. I disagree with this for two reasons. First, I'd rather ride a bike I like and I don't like going with a bike deliberately made ugly. Second, attempts to make a bike ugly will not hide the components on the bike. If a savvy bike thief sees a high-end drivetrain on an otherwise undesirable bike, the bike would be a target.
In some large cities, I've left my bike unlocked in busy areas, but I've also been within sight of the bike. It may be unlocked in front of a mall, but I'm in a coffee shop, taking a break but sitting at the window watching it.
In some large cities, I've left my bike unlocked in busy areas, but I've also been within sight of the bike. It may be unlocked in front of a mall, but I'm in a coffee shop, taking a break but sitting at the window watching it.
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I use a mini U lock for short stops. I park my bike in a storage room at work, and I would never even consider locking the bike up outside overnight.
The main thing that protects me is the place where I live. It's a town with a lot of rich people who like bicycles, most thieves here don't seem to care about bikes that much, and my bike, while pretty nice, isn't as nice as other ones locked up nearby. And a lot of those owners of really nice bikes don't seem as willing as I am to deal with the extra weight of a U lock.
The main thing that protects me is the place where I live. It's a town with a lot of rich people who like bicycles, most thieves here don't seem to care about bikes that much, and my bike, while pretty nice, isn't as nice as other ones locked up nearby. And a lot of those owners of really nice bikes don't seem as willing as I am to deal with the extra weight of a U lock.
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It's OK I almost have that invisibility cloak done! Just don't forget where you parked it or you're screwed!
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I feel the best security is locking up right by a busy entrance to a store, or in front of a window where you and everyone else can see the bike from inside. I still lock my bike, of course, but the lock just makes me feel better. A cordless grinder or recip saw can chop through most locks pretty quick. I think you get better security from leaving the bike where someone would think twice about going for it, because of high visibility.
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...a town with a lot of rich people who like bicycles, most thieves here don't seem to care about bikes that much, and my bike, while pretty nice, isn't as nice as other ones locked up nearby. And a lot of those owners of really nice bikes don't seem as willing as I am to deal with the extra weight of a U lock.
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On other BF sub forums, there have been videos posted of a bike being stolen on a busy street. Even a cop walked by and did nothing as the bike was stolen. It took quite a while to steal the bike too.
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I use a cable lock through the frame and wrap it around either a fat metal tube on a bike rack or some type of immovable pole. My daily rider looks bad. The rear wheel uses nuts. The front has a quick release. When I was using my light weight bicycle I would run the cable through the frame and wheels. I would remove the seat post and take it and the Brooks saddle inside.
I don't think there is a big bicycle theft problem where I live. My neighbors have been leaving their bicycles unlocked on their porch for years. I see that around the neighborhood too. Lawn mowers, snow blowers, and other cool things are left outside all of the time. I was brought up in the New Orleans area where stuff gets stolen instantly if it is left unattended. I always use locks and when I owned a car I always locked it with the alarm on, even if I was just going away from it for a minute. I never left the windows down.
My lock is a six foot curly cable with a key lock. The six feet will never be used. It's more like three feet in reality especially in the cold weather. It has been so cold that the plastic coating has cracked and bits of it have fallen off. One time the lock got water in it and froze. I borrowed a cigarette lighter from a coworker and melted it. From then on I have been carrying my own lighter for such a situation, just in case.
I don't think there is a big bicycle theft problem where I live. My neighbors have been leaving their bicycles unlocked on their porch for years. I see that around the neighborhood too. Lawn mowers, snow blowers, and other cool things are left outside all of the time. I was brought up in the New Orleans area where stuff gets stolen instantly if it is left unattended. I always use locks and when I owned a car I always locked it with the alarm on, even if I was just going away from it for a minute. I never left the windows down.
My lock is a six foot curly cable with a key lock. The six feet will never be used. It's more like three feet in reality especially in the cold weather. It has been so cold that the plastic coating has cracked and bits of it have fallen off. One time the lock got water in it and froze. I borrowed a cigarette lighter from a coworker and melted it. From then on I have been carrying my own lighter for such a situation, just in case.
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In a low income area, most thefts are ride-aways, so just removing the front wheel will eliminate a lot of thefts.
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I put a piece of tin foil over the lock to keep water out. One time I didn't have any foil, so I wrapped a leaf around the lock and tied it on with a piece of grass.
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I lock up outside of work with a U-lock through the frame and rear wheel and a cable lock through the front wheel to make it look like stealing my bike is more trouble than it's worth and I don't put any especially attractive or expensive components (like leather saddles) on my commuters. I actually own two U-locks, one stays at home most of the time unless I'm going someplace where bike theft attempts are highly probable, the other lives on the rack outside my workplace so I don't have to carry it back and forth everyday.
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I currently use one of these through the rear wheel (Sheldon Brown locking method):
https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997.../dp/B000OZ9VLU
one of these to secure my Brooks saddle:
https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-720...ef=pd_sim_sg_2
and one of these through the front wheel:
https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm
I want to add a good chain lock to the mix in the near future, especially since I plan to move to a more bike-friendly (and thus, more bike-theft prone) area. Although the ABUS lock is sufficient for most of the places I currently lock my bike in.
https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997.../dp/B000OZ9VLU
one of these to secure my Brooks saddle:
https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-720...ef=pd_sim_sg_2
and one of these through the front wheel:
https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm
I want to add a good chain lock to the mix in the near future, especially since I plan to move to a more bike-friendly (and thus, more bike-theft prone) area. Although the ABUS lock is sufficient for most of the places I currently lock my bike in.
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What is the most prevalent method of defeating a U-lock? If people use angle grinders then it would seem unnecessary to use a bigger New York style lock because it would only take ten more seconds to get through one of those. What size bolt cutters does it take to get through a regular U-lock?
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kryptonite fahgettaboudit, cables through both wheels and saddle, always locked in a secure garage (ID badge) with multiple video cameras recording 24/7.
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I have a small U-lock and a heavy chain. I tend to prefer the chain, as it allows for more flexible locking and is probably more secure, but it is bulkier and heavier. For short trips, I'll carry it around my waist hipster-style, but it's probably asking for a painful wipeout. For times when the bike will be stationary for a long time (eg at the pub), I prefer to bring my Brompton inside.
I've come to accept that bikes do get stolen, so I'm not going to restrict my activities and keep my bike in sight at all times. It's sad when it happens, but ultimately not worth sacrificing my social life to prevent.
I've come to accept that bikes do get stolen, so I'm not going to restrict my activities and keep my bike in sight at all times. It's sad when it happens, but ultimately not worth sacrificing my social life to prevent.
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If I'm going to be away from my bike for a period of time, I'll try to have the bike inside with me or in a garage where it's safe. Or, if that doesn't work, I'll simply admit there are times when I should leave the bike at home and show up on foot.
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Does it seem like cyclists worry more about vehicle theft than motorists? I've had both a bike and a car stolen. The car was a MUCH bigger hassle. But neither was a good reason to spoil a whole day. Just things, and all that.
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I use this: https://www.treefortbikes.com/product...FahDMgod_lcAbQ
Its long enough to go around a small tree and most street objects while locking both the frame and rear wheel. It weighs about 2 pounds. I am thinking of getting a good U-Lock to keep locked to a post near my office (on a large campus) because the bike often sits there all day, but almost never over night. Both my wheels have Delta anti theft scewers that require a special tool to remove. My seat post, which has a very used Brooks B17 on it, is also bolt on. I bought many thieves would go through the trouble of trying to cut my chain lock to get the bike, but adding the ulock for at work where the bike spends a lot of time makes sense and I never have to carry around the extra weight.
If someone figures out a way to take my front wheel despite the anti theft scewer then thats fine by me since the cost of a new front wheel every 10 years or so when that scenario might actually happens does not out weight the hassle of locking the front wheel every day. Ditto for my Brooks.
Its long enough to go around a small tree and most street objects while locking both the frame and rear wheel. It weighs about 2 pounds. I am thinking of getting a good U-Lock to keep locked to a post near my office (on a large campus) because the bike often sits there all day, but almost never over night. Both my wheels have Delta anti theft scewers that require a special tool to remove. My seat post, which has a very used Brooks B17 on it, is also bolt on. I bought many thieves would go through the trouble of trying to cut my chain lock to get the bike, but adding the ulock for at work where the bike spends a lot of time makes sense and I never have to carry around the extra weight.
If someone figures out a way to take my front wheel despite the anti theft scewer then thats fine by me since the cost of a new front wheel every 10 years or so when that scenario might actually happens does not out weight the hassle of locking the front wheel every day. Ditto for my Brooks.
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