Strong V Grips too hard to ride
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
Strong V Grips too hard to ride
I have Strong V Grips on my b-witch handlebars.
They are great as far as the grip goes, but very rough on your hands for longer rides.
Do you think my riding position maybe wrong?
I have a pretty shot stem, so my riding position is actually quite upright, and I am surprised I'm having this problem with the grips.
Just saw a guy with the black foamy grips the other day. They look pretty cool, and are probably a lot softer than Strong V's.
Has anybody got experience with those? How is the grip on those?
They are great as far as the grip goes, but very rough on your hands for longer rides.
Do you think my riding position maybe wrong?
I have a pretty shot stem, so my riding position is actually quite upright, and I am surprised I'm having this problem with the grips.
Just saw a guy with the black foamy grips the other day. They look pretty cool, and are probably a lot softer than Strong V's.
Has anybody got experience with those? How is the grip on those?
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East coast
Posts: 2,671
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac Expert, Cannondale R700, Specialized Langster, Iron Horse Hollowpoint Team, Schwinn Homegrown
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
get them, try them, grips are really a personal preference thing.
#3
GONE~
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,747
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Where is the pain on your hand? ie:Fingers, palms, wrists etc etc.
You could wear gloves on rides, it might be easier on your hands.
I used to have foam grips, I didn't like them a whole lot because how thick they were. They also get really soggy when it's raining.
You could try Yoshida Champ grips, they are fairly soft and cushy.
You could wear gloves on rides, it might be easier on your hands.
I used to have foam grips, I didn't like them a whole lot because how thick they were. They also get really soggy when it's raining.
You could try Yoshida Champ grips, they are fairly soft and cushy.
#4
THE STUFFED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,671
Bikes: R. Sachs Road; EAI Bareknuckle; S-Works Enduro
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times
in
17 Posts
Man I remembered back then when foam grips came standard with every road bike.....
Then again I would recommend CHAMP grips which are comfortable for long rides but still grippy. From my experience, foam grips don't provide much grip with palm sweat...
Then again I would recommend CHAMP grips which are comfortable for long rides but still grippy. From my experience, foam grips don't provide much grip with palm sweat...
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
The pain is on the palm of my hand.
Wrists and fingers are fine.
Cool. Any idea where I can find those Yoshida Champ grips?
I checked my local bike shop (Blue Lug), but they don't have them.
Wrists and fingers are fine.
Cool. Any idea where I can find those Yoshida Champ grips?
I checked my local bike shop (Blue Lug), but they don't have them.
#6
GONE~
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,747
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have no clue where to get them in Tokyo, maybe you could ask Tomo_Ishi if he knows.
Harriscyclery have them for cheap though.
https://harriscyclery.net/product/yos...black-1815.htm
Harriscyclery have them for cheap though.
https://harriscyclery.net/product/yos...black-1815.htm
Last edited by Squirrelli; 08-08-10 at 06:29 PM.
#7
The bus, Gus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 976
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Another thing is that the track bikes we all ride here are designed with the expectation that they won't really be ridden for long durations of time at all. The thing about track bikes is that the steep seat tube angle and the long saddle-bar drop make for pretty poor weight distribution on the bike, and generally there is a lot of weight being put on your hands and arms. If you ride a few laps around the velodrome, that usually isn't a problem, but for longer rides your hands are going to start feeling it.
Something to keep in mind is that a longer stem will actually shift more weight to your rear/legs, so if you think you have too much weight on your hands, a longer stem and more rearward saddle position will both help.
Try this: While riding at a brisk pace, take your hands off the bars and keep your torso where it is. Can you maintain this position for at least few seconds without falling forward? If not, you've got too much weight on your hands and arms.
Something to keep in mind is that a longer stem will actually shift more weight to your rear/legs, so if you think you have too much weight on your hands, a longer stem and more rearward saddle position will both help.
Try this: While riding at a brisk pace, take your hands off the bars and keep your torso where it is. Can you maintain this position for at least few seconds without falling forward? If not, you've got too much weight on your hands and arms.
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Woolloomooloo, Australia
Posts: 414
Bikes: A fixed gear, a vintage roadie and a POS.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Those black foam things belong on baby buggies and Strong V's were never meant for "longer rides". Get some bar tape and some road bike gloves.
#9
Riding Engineer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 835
Bikes: Kiyo Kiyo Kiyo
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Sorry, I should have read the posts carefully. So you want to know about CHAMP grips, yes?
I never seen those except at used components store. But I know this, you can get it in so many varying thickness from Yoshida Moldings. I am not sure about dealers. Sorry. I will try to go through my links and come back later.
Have you thought about grips like Oury??
I never seen those except at used components store. But I know this, you can get it in so many varying thickness from Yoshida Moldings. I am not sure about dealers. Sorry. I will try to go through my links and come back later.
Have you thought about grips like Oury??
Last edited by Tomo_Ishi; 08-09-10 at 03:13 AM. Reason: Misundersood questions
#10
Riding Engineer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 835
Bikes: Kiyo Kiyo Kiyo
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Sorry, couldn't find anything. Just remember the thickness coding.
https://sports.geocities.jp/yoshida_champ/CCP.html
You can get one at 4mm thickness!?
P.S. Form grips are cheaply available at Home Centers. Need to be careful about sizing tho.
https://sports.geocities.jp/yoshida_champ/CCP.html
You can get one at 4mm thickness!?
P.S. Form grips are cheaply available at Home Centers. Need to be careful about sizing tho.
#11
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
I have Oury grips on my other bike. I know they are very soft. I just thought I'd try something else on my new bike.
If nothing works, I'll get a pair of Oury grips.
If nothing works, I'll get a pair of Oury grips.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 104
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Check these out: https://www.esigrips.com/Silicone_Road_Grips.htm
Foam-like grip, but made of sticky silicone. Good balance between squishy and sturdy feeling. They don't get soggy and are the only grips I've used that allow me to ride hard with no gloves. Sweaty palms don't slip on these like these like they do with my Ourys.
I've been riding these on my mtn bike for over a year. I never thought I'd like a grip more than Ourys, which I rode for ten years before trying these.
Don't let the mid-90s web site deter you. Read some reviews and you'll find that a lot of serious cyclists are hooked on these. (mtn bikers anyway - haven't read any road reviews, but grips are grips)
Foam-like grip, but made of sticky silicone. Good balance between squishy and sturdy feeling. They don't get soggy and are the only grips I've used that allow me to ride hard with no gloves. Sweaty palms don't slip on these like these like they do with my Ourys.
I've been riding these on my mtn bike for over a year. I never thought I'd like a grip more than Ourys, which I rode for ten years before trying these.
Don't let the mid-90s web site deter you. Read some reviews and you'll find that a lot of serious cyclists are hooked on these. (mtn bikers anyway - haven't read any road reviews, but grips are grips)
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
Those ESI grips looks pretty interesting.
I guess grips are cheap enough to go thru a few different pairs, to find something that suits me...
I guess grips are cheap enough to go thru a few different pairs, to find something that suits me...
#14
manonthemoon
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 748
Bikes: Current custom builds: FG=KHS Flite 100 DH=Transition Blindside FR=Transition Bottlerocket
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Is it the rubber tread that's hurting the skin on your hands, or the lack of cushioning?
#15
Riding Engineer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 835
Bikes: Kiyo Kiyo Kiyo
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
^ Yeah. I was getting it from the pattern. Honey comb pattern seem to be made with pretty hard rubber that dig into my palm. I could tough it because I simply needed to wear gloves which alleviated the problem fine. Is that the way with you?
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
I don't find the pattern to be a problem.
It's just the thickness I think.
They are really thin, and it's just like grabbing the bare bar with a thin film of non-slip material.
But then I haven't ridden the bike for more than 40 mins straight yet. So maybe the pattern could become a problem.
It's just the thickness I think.
They are really thin, and it's just like grabbing the bare bar with a thin film of non-slip material.
But then I haven't ridden the bike for more than 40 mins straight yet. So maybe the pattern could become a problem.
#17
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shinjuku, Tokyo
Posts: 333
Bikes: Nagasawa Special Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
2 Posts
I raised the bar a little bit by changing the spacers on the stem, that seems to help a bit. Also adjusted the seat a little.
just hope I didn't cut the fork too short. Almost think another spacer in there wouldn't hurt.
just hope I didn't cut the fork too short. Almost think another spacer in there wouldn't hurt.
#18
manonthemoon
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 748
Bikes: Current custom builds: FG=KHS Flite 100 DH=Transition Blindside FR=Transition Bottlerocket
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Well I have All-City grips, which are the same as the Origin-8 and others, and doesn't look too different from the Strong V. It's not the most comfortable on my skin either, but I still ride it just the same on bullhorns. Then again I'm usually running drops, so I haven't done a really extended ride on the bullhorns yet.
#19
THE STUFFED
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,671
Bikes: R. Sachs Road; EAI Bareknuckle; S-Works Enduro
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times
in
17 Posts
I have no clue where to get them in Tokyo, maybe you could ask Tomo_Ishi if he knows.
Harriscyclery have them for cheap though.
https://harriscyclery.net/product/yos...black-1815.htm
Harriscyclery have them for cheap though.
https://harriscyclery.net/product/yos...black-1815.htm
https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...th=188_230_667
#20
Riding Engineer
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 835
Bikes: Kiyo Kiyo Kiyo
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
https://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/maker/474_204.html
Yo mama. 700 Yen. Not bad. Also, note Neoprene form grip is 735 Yen for 500mm isn't that bad.
Yo mama. 700 Yen. Not bad. Also, note Neoprene form grip is 735 Yen for 500mm isn't that bad.
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santa Barbara
Posts: 1,506
Bikes: SE Quadrangle, '82 Venus NJS, '03 Bianchi Pista, '86 P'sonic Mt Cat, Fat City Yo Eddy '91 + '93, B'cuda A2E, '86 Trek Elance 400, '88 Centurion D.Scott Expert, '88 Fisher Mt Tam (and no longer with me: SE OM Flyer, Umezawa/B-stone/Samson NJS)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
BAR TAPE!
Or the thicker Champs, or Ourys, or gloves......all good options.
Or the thicker Champs, or Ourys, or gloves......all good options.