Soma Doublecross
05-29-09, 12:17 PM
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I just got done inspecting the frame and I have few criticisms.
1. I agree with Lycc825's criticism about the cable stops being to close to the cantilever hangers. Rub might occur. Some kind of plastic sheathing around the brake cable in that area will alleviate the problem.
2. The left cantilever hanger is approximately 2 - 3 degrees off center.
Other than that everything looks fine. The paint job is gorgeous. The welding is satisfactory; I didn't see any butts that concerned me. No dents or scratches. All of the cable stops were centered on the tubes and parallel with the tubes.
I'm not a frame builder, but I find the build satisfactory.
1. I agree with Lycc825's criticism about the cable stops being to close to the cantilever hangers. Rub might occur. Some kind of plastic sheathing around the brake cable in that area will alleviate the problem.
2. The left cantilever hanger is approximately 2 - 3 degrees off center.
Other than that everything looks fine. The paint job is gorgeous. The welding is satisfactory; I didn't see any butts that concerned me. No dents or scratches. All of the cable stops were centered on the tubes and parallel with the tubes.
I'm not a frame builder, but I find the build satisfactory.
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05-29-09, 12:48 PM
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Gotta run discs... I absolutely love my BB7 roads - and they've always come with adapters. If you are going to ride in inclement weather they are awesome. They're great in good weather, too!
05-29-09, 10:23 PM
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05-29-09, 10:28 PM
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06-12-09, 09:11 PM
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Still researching. It's a front-runner, though in the end with the conversion costs it only saves me a few hundred over a Gunnar or the like.
It's the re-paint that's killing me on this. And the shipping. Bike and couplers alone aren't that big of a deal.
So I'm down to this, a Hab Ti bike (though I'd have to ask what they charge for adding disc tabs) and a Gunnar Crosshairs or Fastlane.
It's the re-paint that's killing me on this. And the shipping. Bike and couplers alone aren't that big of a deal.
So I'm down to this, a Hab Ti bike (though I'd have to ask what they charge for adding disc tabs) and a Gunnar Crosshairs or Fastlane.
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06-13-09, 06:56 AM
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06-13-09, 03:02 PM
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Will do. I know it won't be cheaper than converting a Soma...but if it's not that much more expensive, it could be worth it. The bonus of converting the Hab Ti bike is that I won't need to worry about the re-paint, since it's just a brushed finish. That can save me $300 off of the Soma conversion.
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06-13-09, 03:18 PM
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For Hab, you might as well go directly to the folks who makes the frame for them, XACD.
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=173509
https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=173509
07-02-09, 07:49 AM
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I'm done building the bike. I can't say if the following issue is specific to the Double Cross DC frame I received from SOMA, I weight to much, or this is a design flaw.
My seatpost keeps slipping. Per their specifications I am using a 27.2mm seatpost.
I weigh 199 Lbs. With my back pack and cloths my weight is probably 215 – 225 Lbs.
I have 2 other bikes besides this SOMA and both have their seatposts clamped to the seat tube with 5.5 Nm of torque. Absolutely no seatpost slipping, ever. The seatpost slipping is occurring at that torque value on the SOMA. I increased the torque to 6.2 NM and slipping is still occurring. I'm not sure if I can place increased force onto the seatpost or it might bend.
The SOMA only has a bolt that threads into eyelets welded to the frame vs utilizing a seatpost clamp. I'm not sure if this was a good design choice or not, I'm simply reporting this issue to the OP and the forum.
My seatpost keeps slipping. Per their specifications I am using a 27.2mm seatpost.
I weigh 199 Lbs. With my back pack and cloths my weight is probably 215 – 225 Lbs.
I have 2 other bikes besides this SOMA and both have their seatposts clamped to the seat tube with 5.5 Nm of torque. Absolutely no seatpost slipping, ever. The seatpost slipping is occurring at that torque value on the SOMA. I increased the torque to 6.2 NM and slipping is still occurring. I'm not sure if I can place increased force onto the seatpost or it might bend.
The SOMA only has a bolt that threads into eyelets welded to the frame vs utilizing a seatpost clamp. I'm not sure if this was a good design choice or not, I'm simply reporting this issue to the OP and the forum.
07-02-09, 08:03 AM
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alfred, that is one of my few gripes with Soma and the only thing that keeps me from building up more Soma frames. it is a caution i mention to friends i talk to about Somas. one of my coworkers' DoubleCross has a slipping seatpost as well.
they should switch to a collared design IMO but that adds unduly to the cost of manufacture i suppose...
they should switch to a collared design IMO but that adds unduly to the cost of manufacture i suppose...
07-02-09, 08:27 AM
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I can't use a shim, the fit is too tight. I can't increase torque or I will bend the seatpost.
Now what do I do? Should I send it back and have SOMA cut off the eyelets, file the area down so it is smooth, and repaint the area? That way I can use a seatpost clamp?
I spent a lot of money on this build, a slipping seatpost is absolutely unacceptable, it renders the bike unrideable.
Now what do I do? Should I send it back and have SOMA cut off the eyelets, file the area down so it is smooth, and repaint the area? That way I can use a seatpost clamp?
I spent a lot of money on this build, a slipping seatpost is absolutely unacceptable, it renders the bike unrideable.
07-07-09, 01:39 PM
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I ride about 80 miles a week. I've had the bike about 5months now. Best commuter i've had. Nothing really crooked. I don't use the canti mounts. I have Avid BB7 Road Disc Brakes. The derailleur is really strong. I once broke my SRAM Rival Derailleur once right by the bolt (I was in a really low gear going up a hill and a large but short stick got lodged in my derailleur) and the derailleur only slightly got bent. It was only a 5 min fix with a deraileur hanger alignment tool. Only think I didnt like was that the seat post binder is integrated with the frame and not separate.
Mine is a 54cm. I'm about 5'9" with 30-31" inseam.
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07-15-09, 11:05 PM
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The top tube for me on the 54cm is a bit high. I have a longer torso length than legs. The reach is perfect for me.
08-29-12, 05:54 PM
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Hello All!
How are your Soma DC's holding up? I just ordered one with Rival and BB7's. Still thinking drop or straight bar for it, but cannot wait either way.
Wardman
How are your Soma DC's holding up? I just ordered one with Rival and BB7's. Still thinking drop or straight bar for it, but cannot wait either way.
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08-29-12, 07:23 PM
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I've got a 2009 with BB7's and Shimano/Campy mix. It's my go-to ride and zero complaints. Build quality is very good, nothing off center and no slipping seatpost either!
08-29-12, 07:44 PM
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Have you looked at this: https://salsacycles.com/culture/new_f...ng_vaya_travel
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09-02-12, 02:45 PM
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Bicycle Times Magazine did a review of the Soma DC and the reviewer mentioned the seat post slipping. The reviewer switched seat posts and everything was fine. Your LBS might be of much help.
In Richard's Bicycle Book, he recommends if all else fails, drill a small hole in the frame's seat tube and seat post (with the bike upside down to prevent damage to the bottom bracket), and use a nut and bolt to keep the the post in position.
09-03-12, 03:59 PM
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For the person who wanted to see the welds up close. They are smooth as silk.
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09-04-12, 05:48 AM
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This thread brings back memories. I still have my Double Cross DC. It was my go-to commuter for 2 years. Overall, it's a solid performer.
As for the seatpost slipping issue... At the time, I ended up placing a DYI clamp around the seatpost above the seat tube to prevent seat post slipping. It worked. To the best of my knowledge, at this time, this is a known issue with some Soma bike frames. It's a common complaint.
As for the seatpost slipping issue... At the time, I ended up placing a DYI clamp around the seatpost above the seat tube to prevent seat post slipping. It worked. To the best of my knowledge, at this time, this is a known issue with some Soma bike frames. It's a common complaint.
09-04-12, 09:37 AM
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My Cross check has semi horizontal dropouts.
