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Old 03-14-24, 05:42 AM
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Yes, a new bike can be a lot more fun. If you are not racing, buy a bike that fits and is comfortable. That will really make a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Sometimes bland mediocrity is not quite enough, especially when it comes to our main hobbies and interests. There are thousands of riders out there who don’t race, but still enjoy riding high quality race bikes. It has nothing to do with what they “need”.
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Old 03-14-24, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
My assertion stands: a clincher tire with a latex tube can be as efficient, or more efficient, as a similar tubeless version of that tire.
Sure. But when the latex tube picks up a goat head, it rapidly becomes much slower.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Sometimes bland mediocrity is not quite enough, especially when it comes to our main hobbies and interests. There are thousands of riders out there who don’t race, but still enjoy riding high quality race bikes. It has nothing to do with what they “need”.
And vice-versa. I race plenty, and my main race bike has a steel frame, because I like steel. Though unlike some of this forum's "steel is real" crowd, I am not laboring under the illusion that it is somehow superior to other materials.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
And vice-versa. I race plenty, and my main race bike has a steel frame, because I like steel. Though unlike some of this forum's "steel is real" crowd, I am not laboring under the illusion that it is somehow superior to other materials.
So you're purposely giving yourself a disadvantage? Like a handicap, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
And vice-versa. I race plenty, and my main race bike has a steel frame, because I like steel. Though unlike some of this forum's "steel is real" crowd, I am not laboring under the illusion that it is somehow superior to other materials.
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So you're purposely giving yourself a disadvantage? Like a handicap, I guess.
Where did I state that it's a disadvantage?
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Old 03-14-24, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Light weight high priced bikes are of a concern to those that race. For the rest of us a fairly good quality bike will serve us just fine.
Lightweight, high-quality bikes might also be a concern for people who recognize and appreciate the subtle differences between mediocre, good, and great. I don't buy bikes that just serve utilitarian needs. I like bikes that excite me to want to ride them, and often ride them at the limits of my abilities. Lightweight, high-quality bikes serve my desires for the kind of bike I want to ride.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Where did I state that it's a disadvantage?
You didn't state it. You're right. I am assuming that you are such a fast racer that you need to give yourself a handicap to make it fair. My bad.
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Originally Posted by vespasianus
Yes, a new bike can be a lot more fun. If you are not racing, buy a bike that fits and is comfortable. That will really make a huge difference.
It's also okay to buy a bike that really excites you, and inspires you to want to ride it a lot. That bike can be a race bike - if that's what you like - even if you don't race it. It should also fit and be comfortable.
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Originally Posted by smd4
You didn't state it. You're right. I am assuming that you are such a fast racer that you need to give yourself a handicap to make it fair. My bad.
Why are you assuming Koyote's bike is a handicap? Are you familiar with the type of racing he does?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Why are you assuming Koyote's bike is a handicap? Are you familiar with the type of racing he does?
I already said I was assuming! Geeze!
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Originally Posted by BikeCycling
I will say, I actually feel cooler rolling up to group rides with my mismatched wheels, outdated frame, and hand-me-down pedals...and somewhat being able to keep up. But a new modern bike is cool in different ways, too!
If faster is the goal, learn to ride with your chin close to the stem, a flat back (or nearly), narrow bars, knees that nearly touch the top tube every stroke and a smooth spin. Aero on your body is even better than a little improvement at the wheel or aero carbon bars.

Roll up on a vintage bike and ride like a pro - 'That's the ticket' !
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Originally Posted by smd4
I already said I was assuming! Geeze!
I know. I'm asking why you're making that assumption?
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Originally Posted by smd4
I am assuming ...
Originally Posted by Eric F
Why are you assuming ...?
Originally Posted by smd4
I already said I was assuming! Geeze!
When in doubt, ignore what was actually written and feign indignation.
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Originally Posted by BikeCycling
I will say, I actually feel cooler rolling up to group rides with my mismatched wheels, outdated frame, and hand-me-down pedals...and somewhat being able to keep up.
Getting dropped from group rides has never made me feel cool.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Sure. But when the latex tube picks up a goat head, it rapidly becomes much slower.
If, not when.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I know. I'm asking why you're making that assumption?
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
When in doubt, ignore what was actually written and feign indignation.
He was trying to be clever. And failing, obviously.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
If faster is the goal, learn to ride with your chin close to the stem, a flat back (or nearly), narrow bars, knees that nearly touch the top tube every stroke and a smooth spin. Aero on your body is even better than a little improvement at the wheel or aero carbon bars.

Roll up on a vintage bike and ride like a pro - 'That's the ticket' !
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Originally Posted by Koyote
He was trying to be clever. And failing, obviously.
You said you don’t think steel is superior to other materials. So it’s either commensurate with other materials, or it’s inferior. Your only two choices.

So which is it? You have only mentioned that you’ve raced road and gravel, so we can start there.
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You've gone from this...

Originally Posted by smd4
So you're purposely giving yourself a disadvantage? Like a handicap, I guess.
...to this:

Originally Posted by smd4
You said you don’t think steel is superior to other materials. So it’s either commensurate with other materials, or it’s inferior. Your only two choices.

So which is it?
Which seems like a non-sequitur borne of a reading comprehension problem. Hint: those are not my 'only two choices.'
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Originally Posted by Koyote
You've gone from this...



...to this:



Which seems like a non-sequitur borne of a reading comprehension problem. Hint: those are not my 'only two choices.'
There’s a reason I added him to my iggy list a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Lightweight, high-quality bikes might also be a concern for people who recognize and appreciate the subtle differences between mediocre, good, and great. I don't buy bikes that just serve utilitarian needs. I bikes that excite me to want to ride them, and often ride them at the limits of my abilities. Lightweight, high-quality bikes serve my desires for the kind of bike I want to ride.
Unlike a broken clock, which is at least right twice a day, a broken record is broken all the time. He’s been repeating that mantra for forever and a day.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Which seems like a non-sequitur borne of a reading comprehension problem. Hint: those are not my 'only two choices.'
I can only hope to be as cantankerous as you when I reach your advanced years!
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I can only hope to be as cantankerous as you when I reach your advanced years!
Oh? How old am I?
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You posted late last year that you were 60. So either that or possibly 61.
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