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Any good climbers NOT standing up on the climbs?

Old 03-10-11, 04:18 PM
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Any good climbers NOT standing up on the climbs?

Just wonderin'. I'm not a great climber per se, but I do ride mountains as often as possible, and I'm pretty much seated for all of them, even when going near max on a 21% grade.
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Old 03-10-11, 04:26 PM
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I'll stand for short stretches but not in general. It is more tiring for me to stand.
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Old 03-10-11, 04:29 PM
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I'm in the seat about 75-80% of most climbs. If it's really steep I may need to stand more often.
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You need some steeper climbs

Seated climbing is easier on your body since a bulk of your weight is supported by the seat. When you stand up, you have to support / move your whole body and will wear you out faster.

In my case .. I am prob a 60-70% seated climber, but it just depends on the climb. When some ramp up near the top, I stand up and just hammer down to get to the top.
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It's more efficient to sit. Most of a long climb should therefore be seated. Stand to accelerate, and to change things up, muscle group wise and mentally.

Otherwise you're better off seated on long climbs
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Any good climbers standing up on the climbs?


That would be a better question.
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Old 03-10-11, 04:54 PM
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Most people spend more time seated than standing while climbing. It depends on what's comfortable for you and your weight. Seated climbing is more efficient for everyone, but especially for heavier riders. As was mentioned earlier, when you're seated, the frame is supporting part of your weight. When you stand, your muscles have to support all of your weight. So it makes sense that heavier riders tend to sit more, while lighter riders will stand more.

Although, riders of all sizes will alternate sitting and standing just to change up the muscles being used from time to time.

Take a look at the pros. Take Cadel Evans. He isn't a pure climber, but can climb very well, and does almost 100% of it seated. He's a "heavier" rider, by pro standards anyway. Contador is a climbing specialist and spends more time standing than most riders but he's also super small, so his muscles have to support less weight. Both will alternate sitting and standing to let different muscles take a break when they need to.
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Old 03-10-11, 05:16 PM
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I don't stand for much of a climb.
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Standing or sitting, the efficiency is about the same. However, your HR may be higher standing and you can definitely generate more power as you get to employ your arms to generate more force on the pedals. So standing is good for attacks and to give some muscles a break but it's not necessary for steady state climbing.
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Old 03-10-11, 05:32 PM
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Unless I cannot push on the pedals anymore I try to sit as much as I can. There is a 0.25 mile 19% grade in the middle of a longer hill I go up almost every day, and sitting in a 39-27 is much better than standing in a 39-24. But if I feel like working harder I'll stand up on it.
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There was a study done somewhere which showed that smaller lighter riders climbed more efficiently standing and heavier riders were better off sitting more...

http://pedalclan.wordpress.com/2010/...ing-on-climbs/

http://www.cptips.com/climb.htm
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Old 03-10-11, 05:38 PM
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Often I will climb a three mile stretch of a 20% grade mountain, I stand the entire time. I'm a pretty good climber...

Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
There was a study done somewhere which showed that smaller lighter riders climbed more efficiently standing and heavier riders were better off sitting more...

http://pedalclan.wordpress.com/2010/...ing-on-climbs/

http://www.cptips.com/climb.htm
This may be why though, I'm pretty small, 5' 8/9 and 122lbs.
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Old 03-10-11, 05:42 PM
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so...if i can inquire...

I notice that on a particular 14 mile climb... I stand what seems every bend. the road gradient is steeper in the corners. since there are alot of turns... I'd guess I'm standing about 40 % of this climb. I mainly stand as a last resort... I'm tired of sitting and need to push through the turns. however... I almost always lose speed while changingto a standing effort...

is it better to increase my sitting efforts to maintain speed? or just get better at standing?!?

also... the amount of standing on this particular climb is, I think, because of all the varying gradients... any advice how to cope with this as it breaks my rhythm alot
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Old 03-10-11, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
There was a study done somewhere which showed that smaller lighter riders climbed more efficiently standing and heavier riders were better off sitting more..
Is that why everyone here says they stay seated when climbing?
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Old 03-10-11, 05:57 PM
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Unless it's a long climb I like being out of the saddle.
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It depends on the length of the climb for me. If I'm climbing a mountain for hours on end, I'll sit for over 90% of it and stand just to change things up/give my ass a rest. If I'm in a circuit race with a fairly short climb where everybody wants to drop everybody else, I'll stand for almost the whole thing. If it's a medium length climb, I'll sit for a long time, then stand to accelerate/change muscle groups a little, then sit again to get my HR a bit under control and keep switching.

There is no one formula for getting up hills. If you're with a group and you're barely hanging on, you do what you have to in order to stay with them. Your body will tell you what to do.
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Geez. Do what works. Last I look, my manhood didn't get any bigger whether I sat or stood all the way up.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
It's more efficient to sit. Most of a long climb should therefore be seated. Stand to accelerate, and to change things up, muscle group wise and mentally.

Otherwise you're better off seated on long climbs
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Originally Posted by theschwinnman View Post
Often I will climb a three mile stretch of a 20% grade mountain
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I never stand. I think I have bad form and the bike feels unstable to me when I stand so I don't. I can spin up any hill anywhere around me. Now, I could probably get away with a smaller cassette if I would stand more.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
Seriously. 3 miles at 20% grade standing the entire time?
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Old 03-10-11, 06:24 PM
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It's funny, but I stand a lot, and it feels very comfortable. I feel just like I'm walking up stairs.
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Originally Posted by timeforheroes View Post
is it better to increase my sitting efforts to maintain speed? or just get better at standing?!?

also... the amount of standing on this particular climb is, I think, because of all the varying gradients... any advice how to cope with this as it breaks my rhythm alot
A 14 mile climb is definitely long. You should try to sit as much as you can. A general rule of thumb some people use is to sit unless your cadence drops below 70 (60 for others), then stand. Lower cadences put more stress on your knees and muscles. Standing in those cases for short periods of time would help.

If you're having trouble climbing while seated, do some seated climbing drills. On a trainer at home, raise the front wheel of your bike to simulate an incline. After a good warm up, do some intervals where you put your bike into a large gear where you can only pedal around 50-55 rpms. Do this while seated for 3-5 minutes. Then shift to an easier gear and spin for a while. Repeat 2-3 times and alternate with easy spinning and some lower gear/high cadence climbing intervals. Those would be around 80-85rpms for 3-5 minutes. This will help you develop power you can use while still seated so you won't go anaerobic quite as fast and will last longer on long hill climbs. You will eventually be able to sit and spin over grades that used to force you to stand up and power through.

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Originally Posted by BLR_0719 View Post
Seriously. 3 miles at 20% grade standing the entire time?
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Old 03-10-11, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BLR_0719 View Post
Seriously. 3 miles at 20% grade standing the entire time?
Well, the average gradient is 19.8% as measured by a GPS, you get a few breaks during the climb. And yes, I stand throughout the entire climb.
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