Amtrak damaged my bike
#1
Banned.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 1,155
Bikes: 2017 Fuji Jari
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 227 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Amtrak damaged my bike
Anyone have any experience with Amtrak damaging your bike?
Took the train from Portland to LA and my bike was jacked up so bad when I got it in LA. Paint scratched to hell, a deep scratch in the rear rim which is deep enough to require the rim to be replaced and a bent brake lever.
I'm so annoyed. Luckily the train to San Diego is a carry on so I don't have to worry about my bike being messed up more.
What would you do if you were in my situation?
To clarify; You don't box your bike on this route. You hand it to the people at the baggage car and they put it on.
Took the train from Portland to LA and my bike was jacked up so bad when I got it in LA. Paint scratched to hell, a deep scratch in the rear rim which is deep enough to require the rim to be replaced and a bent brake lever.
I'm so annoyed. Luckily the train to San Diego is a carry on so I don't have to worry about my bike being messed up more.
What would you do if you were in my situation?
To clarify; You don't box your bike on this route. You hand it to the people at the baggage car and they put it on.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
1 Post
Take lots of pix and submit them to Amtrak and/or your homeowner's insurance. Expect no response and you won't be disappointed. Prepare to replace, repair and move on. Sorry about your experience - I'm sure it's infuriating.
#3
In Real Life
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,152
Bikes: Lots
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3203 Post(s)
Liked 596 Times
in
329 Posts
Train travel was one of the reasons I switched from a carbon fork to a steel fork. I figured the steel fork could handle being battered around more than a carbon fork could.
__________________
Rowan
My fave photo threads on BF
Century A Month Facebook Group
Machka's Website
Photo Gallery
Rowan
My fave photo threads on BF
Century A Month Facebook Group
Machka's Website
Photo Gallery
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,977
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1638 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times
in
495 Posts
Hopefully you brought it to managements attention after it was handed to you at the LA station.
There is this on their website; Bicycles/bicycle trailers may be checked in a bicycle container for $10, in lieu of a piece of baggage. Bicycle boxes are sold at most staffed locations for $15 per box. Customers may supply their own bicycle container.
There is this on their website; Bicycles/bicycle trailers may be checked in a bicycle container for $10, in lieu of a piece of baggage. Bicycle boxes are sold at most staffed locations for $15 per box. Customers may supply their own bicycle container.
__________________
nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
nine mile skid on a ten mile ride
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
https://www.amtrak.com/bring-your-bicycle-onboard
But the answer to the question is simple: The OP is S.O.L. absent a favor from Amtrak as Amtrak disclaims all liability for bikes that are walked on and all unboxed bikes accepted as checked baggage.
https://www.amtrak.com/lost-items-li...ty-for-baggage
#6
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
Unionized railroad workers are a federally protected species in the USA. Their union is very strong and they can do no wrong.
Long Island Railroad workers will steal your winter coat while you sleep. One of my friends was a conductor and bragged about a bike he stole when the owner dozed off.
-Tim-
Long Island Railroad workers will steal your winter coat while you sleep. One of my friends was a conductor and bragged about a bike he stole when the owner dozed off.
-Tim-
#7
Expired Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 11,547
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3674 Post(s)
Liked 5,437 Times
in
2,763 Posts
Karma sucks?
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
Which union would that be?
And please explain the interplay between the union's alleged strength, the particular damage at issue, and Amtrak's corporate policy decision to disclaim liability for unboxed bicycles, excluding from your explanation any and all assumptions and alternative facts.
#9
Senior Member
Which union would that be?
And please explain the interplay between the union's alleged strength, the particular damage at issue, and Amtrak's corporate policy decision to disclaim liability for unboxed bicycles, excluding from your explanation any and all assumptions and alternative facts.
And please explain the interplay between the union's alleged strength, the particular damage at issue, and Amtrak's corporate policy decision to disclaim liability for unboxed bicycles, excluding from your explanation any and all assumptions and alternative facts.
#11
Senior Member
That sucks... you have a good 'before' pix posted in the touring section, hope you raised the damage issue when you first received the bike at the destination. One of the many reasons I started touring with a folder.
#12
Expired Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 11,547
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3674 Post(s)
Liked 5,437 Times
in
2,763 Posts
Tim may be a believer in "alternate facts."
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
As I noted in post #5 above, Amtrak disclaims all liability for unboxed bikes, so it seems doubtful that he can make any recovery.
#14
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
#15
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
Are you aware that the new baggage cars they have been rolling out have dedicated spaces for unboxed bikes? Sometimes accidents happen. If believe the route has checked baggage service available at the origin destinations stations. If that's correct, the OP could have boxed the bike rather than use the trainside checked service, where the bike is loaded unboxed.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,885
Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3242 Post(s)
Liked 2,086 Times
in
1,181 Posts
Unionized railroad workers are a federally protected species in the USA. Their union is very strong and they can do no wrong.
Long Island Railroad workers will steal your winter coat while you sleep. One of my friends was a conductor and bragged about a bike he stole when the owner dozed off.
-Tim-
Long Island Railroad workers will steal your winter coat while you sleep. One of my friends was a conductor and bragged about a bike he stole when the owner dozed off.
-Tim-
Last edited by cb400bill; 02-13-17 at 04:25 PM. Reason: Bypassing forum censor
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
#19
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
I know this will sound rude, but I think the OP was being a little naive if he was expecting his bike to survive the trip unscathed.
Last edited by SquidPuppet; 02-13-17 at 09:43 AM.
#20
Senior Member
Yes I saw that, but photo documentation of an immediate 'before' and 'after' (with obvious background & timestamps) might appeal to Amtrak's graciousness - certain worth a try for the cost of a few megabytes in a smartphone. When I rent a car these days, I usually take a quick video or set of pictures 'before' and 'after'.
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
And if the trainside service necessarily results in damage I think word would be getting around by now.
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,246
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18420 Post(s)
Liked 15,564 Times
in
7,333 Posts
#23
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
#24
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Mentioned: 235 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6844 Post(s)
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
I'm sorry you all don't like what I said but I come from the New York metro area where unions have a lot of strength, workers cannot be fired for ever doing wrong.
A unioinized municipal bus driver could run over a pedestrian and the police won't ticket or arrest because one union watches out for the other. Most of the unionized municipal workers don't give a crap, are just there until their pension kicks in. It's just the way it is.
I have no idea what union Amtrack baggage handler's belong to. UTU are conductors. BLTE? I have no idea. That they are unionized is doubtless.
Devil and communistic are your words, not mine.
Should have said "former friend" and not a very good one at that.
-Tim-
A unioinized municipal bus driver could run over a pedestrian and the police won't ticket or arrest because one union watches out for the other. Most of the unionized municipal workers don't give a crap, are just there until their pension kicks in. It's just the way it is.
I have no idea what union Amtrack baggage handler's belong to. UTU are conductors. BLTE? I have no idea. That they are unionized is doubtless.
Devil and communistic are your words, not mine.
Should have said "former friend" and not a very good one at that.
-Tim-
Last edited by TimothyH; 02-13-17 at 11:35 AM.
#25
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,614
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10964 Post(s)
Liked 7,491 Times
in
4,189 Posts
Just wanted to offset the absurd comments you make for anyone who is actually inexperienced with bikes on trains.
Odd person to befriend. Yes I see you are no longer friends. Still, odd think to admit/mention in that way.