5 days of Hell and almost eaten by Wolves!
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Hi,
Fascinating story, and thanks for sharing.
I believe your wolf story, but I have never heard of that type of "wolf attack" against a human before--unless they were trying to protect their pups. It would be interesting to learn if pups were in a nearby den or elsewhere.
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Fascinating story, and thanks for sharing.
I believe your wolf story, but I have never heard of that type of "wolf attack" against a human before--unless they were trying to protect their pups. It would be interesting to learn if pups were in a nearby den or elsewhere.
David in FL
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Originally Posted by David in PA
Hi,
Fascinating story, and thanks for sharing.
I believe your wolf story, but I have never heard of that type of "wolf attack" against a human before--unless they were trying to protect their pups. It would be interesting to learn if pups were in a nearby den or elsewhere.
David in FL
Fascinating story, and thanks for sharing.
I believe your wolf story, but I have never heard of that type of "wolf attack" against a human before--unless they were trying to protect their pups. It would be interesting to learn if pups were in a nearby den or elsewhere.
David in FL
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Sorry to hear about the knee Tom! As for the wolves, I hear good things about silver bullets. Haul a couple cases of Coors w/ you next time and hit them on snouts w/ them.
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Originally Posted by jyossarian
Sorry to hear about the knee Tom! As for the wolves, I hear good things about silver bullets. Haul a couple cases of Coors w/ you next time and hit them on snouts w/ them.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Coors? Coors? I thought better of you J! I drink beer you can't see through!
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Originally Posted by Tuffwolf
my kind of beer.... can't see through it your if you do you see red
None of that panther pee for me!
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That doesn't sound like a defensive action by wolves. That sounds like canine hunting tactics 101. Defensive tactics tend to be frontal, or diversionary, not encirclement. That's more of the shy and retiring wolf would only attack if it were defending it's pups line of reasoning. Well that would certainly be a good reason to confront a human, but I would need more info. Needing to feed is a pretty good reason also, it's another way they preserve their pups lives.
A lot of animals don't necesarilly intend to attack or eat you, but they will probe you. Caught a lot of fish that way, they have no idea what that fly is, but they will give it a yank just to learn a little more about it. In spraying them, as in this case, Tom may have possibly saved the lives of a few other wolves who will learn their place. treating them like fuzzy cuddlies ultimately will go badly for one of us or one of them.
The bear spray I have is sold to flatten blackies (rarely as large as 700 pounds, not sure how agile at that weight, but often enough 300). I don't think the manufacturer is going to be too surprised that it stopped a wolf.
A lot of animals don't necesarilly intend to attack or eat you, but they will probe you. Caught a lot of fish that way, they have no idea what that fly is, but they will give it a yank just to learn a little more about it. In spraying them, as in this case, Tom may have possibly saved the lives of a few other wolves who will learn their place. treating them like fuzzy cuddlies ultimately will go badly for one of us or one of them.
The bear spray I have is sold to flatten blackies (rarely as large as 700 pounds, not sure how agile at that weight, but often enough 300). I don't think the manufacturer is going to be too surprised that it stopped a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
Yeppers! Red Hook out of the NW, Belgian Ales, German Bocks, and Guinness!
None of that panther pee for me!
None of that panther pee for me!
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Wow! Those pictures are fantastic. I am so glad you brought the pepper spray for the bears. As it turns out it works on canines as well thank heavens!
The behavior you describe sounds like predacious behavior. When in the Adirondacks of NY State I always have my bear spray and my trusty Mod.27 357. When animals come forward in a steady unafraid manner it is predacious believe me. Make yourself big and make lots of noise in a threat display. Step two is to use spray if necessary and 3) I would hate to have to but I would use the pistol.
Tom, you were smart not to run as that triggers the chase response in predators. Wolves are quite adept at taking down prey a lot faster and bigger than people. The jaw pressures created by a wolf can snap bones like twigs.
Meeting a "character" living in the woods is also cool beyond description! You certainly have the beginnings of an adventure book here!
The behavior you describe sounds like predacious behavior. When in the Adirondacks of NY State I always have my bear spray and my trusty Mod.27 357. When animals come forward in a steady unafraid manner it is predacious believe me. Make yourself big and make lots of noise in a threat display. Step two is to use spray if necessary and 3) I would hate to have to but I would use the pistol.
Tom, you were smart not to run as that triggers the chase response in predators. Wolves are quite adept at taking down prey a lot faster and bigger than people. The jaw pressures created by a wolf can snap bones like twigs.
Meeting a "character" living in the woods is also cool beyond description! You certainly have the beginnings of an adventure book here!
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The Coors is for purely defensive purposes. To wash down wolf steaks, I'd suggest Bass Ale (my fave).
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Originally Posted by jyossarian
The Coors is for purely defensive purposes. To wash down wolf steaks, I'd suggest Bass Ale (my fave).
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Originally Posted by jyossarian
The Coors is for purely defensive purposes. To wash down wolf steaks, I'd suggest Bass Ale (my fave).
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Tom, don't look now, but I think you are being followed by a Wolf and he appears to be a pretty tuff one too!
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Wow, great ending to a great report. My grandmother always used to claim that her father was stalked by wolves in Minnesota in the 1870's and 1 story sounded remarkably like yours, however, he had an ax, not spray.
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Originally Posted by countrydirt
Wow, great ending to a great report. My grandmother always used to claim that her father was stalked by wolves in Minnesota in the 1870's and 1 story sounded remarkably like yours, however, he had an ax, not spray.
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You can't freak out or run you're dead for sure. You gotta try something, since you'll be eaten anyway, you might as well try something. I'm glad it ended this way and yup, I'm getting bear spray too
If you don't mind Tom, how was the kid's trailer for touring? I'm looking at used Yaks for $200-250 or kids trailers that sometimes go for $30-50 and can be modified. How does it handle? How's the ride? Do you have any experience with dedicated touring/cargo trailers, such as Yak, to relate to? Thanks!
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If you don't mind Tom, how was the kid's trailer for touring? I'm looking at used Yaks for $200-250 or kids trailers that sometimes go for $30-50 and can be modified. How does it handle? How's the ride? Do you have any experience with dedicated touring/cargo trailers, such as Yak, to relate to? Thanks!
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Right, organized camp grounds. I've heard the wolves refer to those as feedlots... Around here people have been chased by wolfotees right in the metro are, and those guys are big. I was chased by a fox last fall which seemed kinda cheeky.
This is the second report of a wolf attack in Michigan on this board, from what I recall.
Pepper spray is all we would be allowed to carry up here, if that. But it does make the case for guns also. The noise of the first shot might scatter all, and the rate at which one can move from target to target is faster, and there is essentially a bottomless can. One can also engage at far greater distance if there is a legitimate reason to do so. The noise may draw help. But pepper spray is what we have.
This is the second report of a wolf attack in Michigan on this board, from what I recall.
Pepper spray is all we would be allowed to carry up here, if that. But it does make the case for guns also. The noise of the first shot might scatter all, and the rate at which one can move from target to target is faster, and there is essentially a bottomless can. One can also engage at far greater distance if there is a legitimate reason to do so. The noise may draw help. But pepper spray is what we have.
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heh, three year old thread brought to life. Good read though.
I've been looking at getting some bear spray and have no idea what brand to get. Lots of choices.
I've been looking at getting some bear spray and have no idea what brand to get. Lots of choices.
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I remeber reading this the first time. Does not seem like three years already. Probably my favorite story on Bike Forums.