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Addiction LXXVIII

Old 04-09-20, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was thinking about starting up again.
I actually just did.
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Old 04-09-20, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
These wheels make a noticeable positive difference in how the bike feels most of the time and maybe I am more attuned, but I have some trouble attributing the wobbles to that. They are the first carbon wheels I've ever tried.
There is a possibility, not likely but still a possibility, of a manufacturing defect somewhere. I raise that possibility because my bike when new had a similar sketchy feel and pulled to the left. After detailed investigation with carpenters level and string I found the front and back wheels were not plumb. The dropouts were not inserted correctly with the result that the axles were not horizontal. A bit of very careful work with a round file fixed the problem. This is not the case with your bike as it was fine before the wheel change. But don't assume new wheels from a known manufacturer are built perfectly.
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Old 04-09-20, 04:23 PM
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Drinking is not the answer.
Says who?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I actually just did.
You guys know that I was kidding, right?

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Old 04-09-20, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was thinking about starting up again.
I finished The Balvenie last night. That was the last of the whisky.
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Old 04-09-20, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Okay, guys. Here's where I admit what a total wuss of a nervous, incompetent, old man I am.

As some of you know, I recently acquired a super-nice set of wheels. They are about 1440g, 35mm deep and I have 25mm GP5000s mounted on them. They are noticeably faster than the decent set I was riding before, but I have one complaint. To wit, they scare the snot out of me descending on rough pavement and/or gusty winds. Yesterday, I had a big tailwind on the homeward leg and had a bunch of 30 mph stretches in the drops where I wondered whether I was going to be able to hold it together and stay out of a death wobble. Some of this was clearly mental and went away when I reset my position, shifted weight aft, and relaxed my arms, but I've never had it so bad with any other set of wheels. My inclination is to work on the mental part with progressive exposure, but I am also concerned about the risk. Any helpful suggestions? Anyone think 28s would help?
I will PM my address to you. Ship me the offending wheels and tires. I will test them extensively, and return them (postage collect) with a full report.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I was thinking about starting up again.
Quiter.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I get almost to the wobble stage, but can get it to go away by slowing down, relaxing, my arms and shifting my weight back on the saddle. I think the question is why the thing is spooking me and what I can do about it.
I would have the tension checked just because it's the easiest of solutions. Maybe try a different tire just for the process of elimination.
Its spooking you because speed wobble is friken scary, and hitting the ground at 30 mph is not fun.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
You guys know that I was kidding, right?

#teetotaler
Yep. But I'm not.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I finished The Balvenie last night. That was the last of the whisky.
Why didn't you hoard three weeks ago like other sensible people?
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Old 04-09-20, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Says who?
I dunno, that's what they tell me when I start.... say...you dont think they're lying to me?
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Old 04-09-20, 05:23 PM
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Busy day of telemedicine, that’s why I am late.

MoAlpha agree drop your PSI and relax. Should improve with a few more rides.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:23 PM
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datlas in a flash of brilliance today I conceived of an invention for you and your ilk: a handlebar mount to hold your device so you can do tele-medicine consultations whilst riding.

How big do you figure the market is for such a product?
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Old 04-09-20, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I actually just did.
Might be time to call your sponsor?
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Old 04-09-20, 05:26 PM
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datlas in a flash of brilliance today I conceived of an invention for you and your ilk: a handlebar mount to hold your device so you can do tele-medicine consultations whilst riding.

How big do you figure the market is for such a product?
Brilliance? I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Brilliance? I do not think it means what you think it means.
They ridiculed the horseless carriage, too.
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Old 04-09-20, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Why didn't you hoard three weeks ago like other sensible people?
My LLS has curbside pickup.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
My LLS has curbside pickup.
My LLS generally has a couple duey bikes out front.

*duey = DUI (Illinois)
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I get almost to the wobble stage, but can get it to go away by slowing down, relaxing, my arms and shifting my weight back on the saddle. I think the question is why the thing is spooking me and what I can do about it.
I think if you're getting a wobble you never had before and the only change is the wheels, maybe the wheels are flexing a bit.

There have been threads on wobbling and many times there is no apparent reason discovered. It seems that certain combinations of bike/wheel/rider sets up a frequency that causes a wobble.
I had a friend who had a Miele with a wicked death wobble and nothing he did would stop it so he got rid of the bike. I've never had a speed wobble on a bike. Lucky me.
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Oh yeah!


Friken sweet. Nothing like some good fitting footwear.
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If I need a sponsor, it's for chocolate.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
The Ardennes+ I had before let the 25s expand to a measured 28 and I was able to run them quite a bit softer. That was very confidence inspiring, but the wheels were appreciably heavier too. Maybe I'll drop the pressure in the GP5000s 5 psi and see if they behave a little less sketchy.
put in a round of wedge.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
If I need a sponsor, it's for chocolate.
I'm back on to calorie counting, and while a beer will always be the first indulgence of a given day, chocolate is for filling in the corners of the caloric budget.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I'm back on to calorie counting, and while a beer will always be the first indulgence of a given day, chocolate is for filling in the corners of the caloric budget.
I may be made of 50% eggs, 50% chocolate.
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