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Old 10-27-19, 09:09 AM
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Thanks all...it’s a bit large, but it’s so exceptional. I’m 99% out of the acquisition game, but when something like this comes along...

This hits a lot of my boxes in what I consider a beauty, and the Omas bits didn’t hurt things.

The way cdm has this set up is perfection, but I have to put my mark on it somehow. I have a yellow regal girardi that I’m going to swap in, and might change the bottle cage. Other than that, not much that could be done to improve it.
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Old 10-27-19, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Not familiar with the name beautiful bike, great craftsmanship
Thanks BG - Ortelli was a competitor of Bartalli, and he made some pretty machines. Somewhat similar in feel to patelli.
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Originally Posted by repechage
This is the most intricate of this brand I have seen. Very Nice bike.

the bike must be named Gina
Gratzie Signor...

Was thinking Sophia.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Other than that, not much that could be done to improve it.
How about some North Road bars and a Sturmey-Archer AW hub?
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Originally Posted by noglider
How about some North Road bars and a Sturmey-Archer AW hub?
I save those for the De Rosas.

i have to get rid of that Rudge Pathfinder; I hate having my stable polluted by IGH.
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Old 10-27-19, 12:02 PM
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Fabulous! Congratulations, a bit of a stunner.
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Had to google this/him due to the unfamiliar name and place (Faenza, turns out to be right in the Emilia-Romagna, close to Ravenna and Bologna) and Vito Ortelli, racer who rode in same era (and races) as Bartali and Coppi but was not the WINNER of the Giro in 1946-47 so unclear what the band on the downtube is proclaiming. Doubt that he was building frames under his name at the the height of his riding career, right?

Ah, he WAS Italian National road race Champ, but that was in 1948...Coppi won in 1947 and 1949

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Assuming it was for the stage win?
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Handsome machine! Really like how the ornate flows from the headstock down to the fork crown and then the fork blade.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Gratzie Signor...

Was thinking Sophia.
Sophia works well Such beauty
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Very nice bike, Aaron. Beautiful details.

I think a Cinelli SC seat binder bolt would perhaps fit nicely. The bolt head on the one that's on there bugs me.

Other than that... perfection.
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Jesus Gawd... that is some ornate workmanship.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
Very nice bike, Aaron. Beautiful details.

I think a Cinelli SC seat binder bolt would perhaps fit nicely. The bolt head on the one that's on there bugs me.

Other than that... perfection.
Whoever put that on there should be flogged, especially if they absconded with something original or very correct for this.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
Very nice bike, Aaron. Beautiful details.

I think a Cinelli SC seat binder bolt would perhaps fit nicely. The bolt head on the one that's on there bugs me.

Other than that... perfection.
Yeah - a Cinelli would definitely look right, and I likely have a few in reserve (though whether I can locate them is another question). As far as the frame, it really is a remarkable bit of craft.
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Lovely!

The name "Ortelli" rang a bell: A lovely Saturday morning at the LBS

BTW, I've met the owner of that Ortelli many times since. These days he organizes his own C&V event, and a nice one at that. For anyone who's in the neighborhood: Retro Bike Fair Amsterdam

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake







Absolutely stunning

I've never seen engraving on tubes like that before! Any idea if that would have been done using a pantograph or by hand? I would think that pantographing would require a flat surface to engrave on to...
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
It’s bigger for sure...but couldn’t pass up a chance to throw a leg over
I was thinking this was a bit large for you. Very nicely made and finished.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Absolutely stunning

I've never seen engraving on tubes like that before! Any idea if that would have been done using a pantograph or by hand? I would think that pantographing would require a flat surface to engrave on to...
I would think by hand. Engravings like this can also be found in the work of some other builders from the region (Patelli and Virginia). I've seen direct on the tube engraving done by Grandis, but not to this extent, and not as ornate. CDM thought it likely that the same person did the engraving for the other builders as well.
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Just another

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake









that’s a beautiful build great attention to detail
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Very pretty bike Aaron.

I don't blame you for picking that up.

All of it is super nice. That crankset is dreamy.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Very pretty bike Aaron.

I don't blame you for picking that up.

All of it is super nice. That crankset is dreamy.
OMAS really makes some beautiful stuff...I really like the milling on the crank.
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A thing of beauty, love the lugwork, the pinstriping, the cranks etc., etc.
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Very nice addition to your already fantastical collection. I particularly admire the bevel-finish on the rear dropouts (at the triangular windows). Very few builders put much effort into cleaning this area up to the extent Ortelli did here. Of course, the scrolling details and engravings are the icing on the cake.

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What stunner! Those before me said it best, so I'm just gonna ogle.

What are those brake levers? I don't think I've ever seen those before.
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A real beauty. Easy to gush about. Those seat stays are enough all by themselves, to make the bike extraordinary. And then there is all the rest of it.





As others mentioned, the seat post bolt doesn't belong on such an elegant bike. (Not that it's a bad looking bolt, polished flat and countersunk in a seatcluster, sweet!) I also don't see the milling on the chainrings or the shifters as being original to this bike. I'm not very familiar with Ortellis, but I would have expected the rings to have more delicacy, and detail, rather than simply heavily milled( again not that I don't like the chain rings. I do, just on a less finely detailed bike, not here. The shifters, look modern, in comparison, looking at the terrific headset... I'm quibbling, and obviously, I could be wrong. Beautiful bike.
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