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1950s? SEARS ROEBUCK 5 SPEED MADE IN AUSTRIA

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Old 10-12-15, 12:36 PM
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1950s? SEARS ROEBUCK 5 SPEED MADE IN AUSTRIA

Found this beauty at local thrift store & am ding to find out more about it! First thing I saw was the badge with 'Made in Austria', then the fancy lugs around the neck & then it has a orange disc behind the rear sprockets with '5 Speed Selector'.
Finally it looks like a 1960s bike to me, but it has 2 bike licenses on the down tube that are dated 1957!

I also love the horn, waffle pedals & a cool light that runs from the front tire. Plus, it has a old wood handle pump that came with it and a small tool kit (pliers and screwdriver) - it even had an old chain with a small lock - and the key in the lock!

The bike looks like someone put it away & forgot about for 60+ years!

What do I have here? What is it worth?
Thanks, I appreciate any help.











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Old 10-12-15, 12:48 PM
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value as it sits ~$40.

dating: suspect mid-'60's. "57" on license sticker may not be a date.

manufacturer is steyr/styria of graz.

https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Austria/AD.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puch

handsome bell!

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I agree with you all the way and just as confused with the license stickers. Is it possible the city had an excess or bulk quantity and simply administered for later years?

I would have bought the bike just to have the bell
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I didn't want to shoot a number but that was it and then the remark of the bell....

too funny!
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wrt date/license -

the printing of the words "bicycle license" and "_____-on hudson" is done differently than the numeral "57." likely as not this small hudson valley community did not license a great many bicycles in pre-boom times. those stickers may have come on a roll and and were numbered sequentially. so the number 57 may represent the 57th bike registered in a given annum.

edit: looks like licensing agency was the village of Croton-On-Hudson.

https://www.hudsonriver.com/croton-on-hudson

machine may have been brought to florida by a retiree...

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Well, I sold the bike for $100, but I kept the horn & the headlight. The headlight is a vintage Sanyo 6v-3w and has a cool kind of flat look to it's round shape (as opposed to the torpedo look); almost like the WWII anti-aircraft or james cagney prison wall spotlights! - It is marked 'Made in Japan' as you would expect. - any value?

The pleasant surprise was the bell - which is marked 'Made in Germany' but no name. Is it a Peugeot bell? Any value to it?
Thanks again for all the help



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wrt bell-

the other side of the trigger is stamped with a logo which will be a clue as to manufacturer.
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I would say the bike is from the early 70's, based on the Shimano parts and red dork disc and worth about $50 in it's current rough shape
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Thanks! 1 side says Made in Germany & the other side has a image of a crown? Any help with who the crown represents would be greatly appreciated!!

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Originally Posted by zukahn1
I would say the bike is from the early 70's, based on the Shimano parts and red dork disc and worth about $50 in it's current rough shape
Don't let the buyer who paid the OP $100 for it know. See post # 7.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
Don't let the buyer who paid the OP $100 for it know. See post # 7.
Well the bell and the light if they work are likely worth $75-100 so the seller did pretty good on this one.
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I don't know about the bell, but the light is not that old, and not worth very much. Maybe $10-$15. I have several older, better made block generators, and I've paid little more than that for those ones.

The bike itself, I'd have not paid even $50 for it personally. If it had been all original and well cleaned I could see $100, but I'd have felt ripped off otherwise. The Lark derailleur is probably not original, the gear lever does not look like a Shimano unit. Probably originally had a Huret Alvit.

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Originally Posted by miamibeachcg
Thanks! 1 side says Made in Germany & the other side has a image of a crown? Any help with who the crown represents would be greatly appreciated!!

found a Saint Christopher bell from the same manufacturer -

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7...42110d00_z.jpg (file too large for posting)

wrt dynamo -

does skirtguard have markings to indicate it is from the dynamo manufacturer or does it have other markings, no markings?

just curious as these are sometimes included with dynamo and sometimes an after market item.
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That's actually a 10 speed. I had one like it. There's a cetrifugally operated 2-speed built into your rear hub. You can control the gear with the shifter but when you get above a certain speed (usually fast 5th gear), the internal hub will shift up. When you stop it shifts back down. I had one of these a while ago and it was wild. I loved the combination.

That version of the Shimano Lark derailleur was introduced in 1969.

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Originally Posted by Doohickie
That's actually a 10 speed. I had one like it. There's a cetrifugally operated 2-speed built into your rear hub. You can control the gear with the shifter but when you get above a certain speed (usually fast 5th gear), the internal hub will shift up. When you stop it shifts back down. I had one of these a while ago and it was wild. I loved the combination.

That version of the Shimano Lark derailleur was introduced in 1969.

thanks very much for this great information!

had wondered about the meaning of the unique markings on the spoke protector disc.
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Yeah, you can move that metal indicator and it will change the speed at which the internal gear changes.
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I could see the bell go for $20, polished up. Maybe more. Maybe significantly more, to the right buyer. There's not really a set market for such things, but one could take a look at online auction sights and get some idea. Doesn't look like an official Peugeot item, to me, but would certainly be at home on one.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
Yeah, you can move that metal indicator and it will change the speed at which the internal gear changes.
do you recall the manufacturer, is it f&s, yoshi, other?
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