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Old 11-20-19, 05:37 PM
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Anyone know what these bars are?

I saw the on the Path Less Pedaled YouTube about the Philadelphia Bike Show. The manufacturer or vendor wasn't mentioned. I looked at SOMA and IRD sites (which were brands mentioned in the video) and didn't see them at either.

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Old 11-20-19, 05:49 PM
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Looks like a copy of Canyon Grail handlebars.

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Old 11-20-19, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tyrion
Looks like a copy of Canyon Grail handlebars.

Yes, thanks but a standard stem.
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Old 11-20-19, 07:40 PM
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Old 11-20-19, 07:47 PM
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A bad idea?
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Old 11-20-19, 07:52 PM
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WTF? Is the lower horizontal piece even usable?
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Old 11-20-19, 08:49 PM
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I believe they are a new bar from Merry Sales Co. (Soma, IRD...) I remember hearing something about it somewhere but I can't remember where but you might check the Radavist or BikeRumor as those are two sites I do tend to visit often.

It is an interesting idea but honestly I would rather see the alt "flat" bar explored more then drops. I love drops, I love them a lot but I don't see any huge need for stuff like this. Most of what I need is already out there in various degrees.
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Old 11-21-19, 03:14 AM
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If lights and bags and computers could be mounted to the lower section it might prove useful?
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Old 11-21-19, 03:34 AM
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It looks needlessly complicated and heavy to me.
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Old 11-21-19, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
I believe they are a new bar from Merry Sales Co. (Soma, IRD...) I remember hearing something about it somewhere but I can't remember where but you might check the Radavist or BikeRumor as those are two sites I do tend to visit often.

It is an interesting idea but honestly I would rather see the alt "flat" bar explored more then drops. I love drops, I love them a lot but I don't see any huge need for stuff like this. Most of what I need is already out there in various degrees.
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If lights and bags and computers could be mounted to the lower section it might prove useful?
Yes. They are from Merry and they are designed to provide more cockpit space.

See around 4:05 of this video:

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Old 11-21-19, 06:18 AM
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Those bars wouldn't be very good for Campy ErgoPower levers.
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Old 11-21-19, 07:22 AM
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Thanks everyone for your answers.
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Old 11-21-19, 08:37 AM
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Looks like a refinement of the Scott drop in bars from the 1980s-early '90s. Greg LeMond occasionally road with those but didn't actually use them often.

That lower position might be useful for climbing into a headwind to get a little lower. But that could restrict breathing for some riders.

Use as an accessory bar seems more practical for long distance riders.



Scott drop in bars. Fairly rare photo of someone actually using the lower bar extension.
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Old 11-21-19, 08:40 AM
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Those bars are an abomination by Canyon and Merry Sales copying them is just Merry being Merry. So much of their stuff is a copy of other designs and some is then also slightly less quality, while other is really nice quality and just as pricey as what they copied.

The Merry bars look like they are less useful than Canyon's though because the lower bar is above the headset height, so the top bar will be even higher up. And the distance between bars looks like its more than Canyon too.
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Old 11-21-19, 10:47 AM
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Pffft ... these bars are just lame; pale imitations of the real thing*, and sold at inflated prices.

*Bike Snob NYC: The First (and Last) Annual BSNYC/RTMS Cockpit of the Year Award: The Finalists
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Old 11-21-19, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
WTF? Is the lower horizontal piece even usable?
For the Canyon bars at least, the concept is to make the drops the most stiff position on the bar and give more compliance on the tops. I don't really agree with the concept as a whole, but thats what the manufacturer says.


Originally Posted by canklecat
Looks like a refinement of the Scott drop in bars from the 1980s-early '90s. Greg LeMond occasionally road with those but didn't actually use them often.

That lower position might be useful for climbing into a headwind to get a little lower. But that could restrict breathing for some riders.

Use as an accessory bar seems more practical for long distance riders.
The entire point of the drop-in bars was for aero by being low and narrow, so more for use on the flats and descents. I think they came along once aero bars got banned for mass start events by the UCI. I've got a set but the position is a bit odd, at least in part because it's a horizontal hand position like the tops and that is pretty uncomfortable for me.
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Old 11-22-19, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Caliper
The entire point of the drop-in bars was for aero by being low and narrow, so more for use on the flats and descents. I think they came along once aero bars got banned for mass start events by the UCI. I've got a set but the position is a bit odd, at least in part because it's a horizontal hand position like the tops and that is pretty uncomfortable for me.
Aero bars had only come in for TTs the year before (89 for aero bars, Lemond had the drop-ins in 1990). And I think that’s the key; people were still working out what was aero and what wasn’t. Thing is, you can see from the pic of Lemond above that he still has his elbows way out, so his cda is probably no better than being on the drops or hoods, and arguably worse.

I definitely remember seeing bikes with MTBbar ends attached to the end of their drop bars to make home-made drop-ins.
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Old 11-22-19, 02:51 PM
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Senseless waste of material. Hard to reach straight bar and the top bar is way above the stem. How can one even get the right fit if the bar is much higher than the fork tube and stem? Waste of money for sure.
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Old 11-22-19, 03:03 PM
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I think the intent of these biplane handlebars it have the drops in higher position like a Salsa Woodchipper while keeping the hand position closer to a standard drop since bikepacking bars are mostly ridden from the drops rather than the hoods. It also gives some space for lights, bottle cages or a bag.
Personally I think a flared drop like a Salsa Cowbell and a higher stack makes more sense,
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