Garmin Edge Explore
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Garmin Edge Explore
I received one of these units for my birthday. So far I'm really enjoying it, so much so I'm considering using it on longer tours. What I really like:
- Large responsive touch screen. Very clear and works well in the rain after testing during some recent wet rides.
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- All the stats I could ever need.
- On the fly route generation. Give it a distance and it will calculate looped rides for you. This feature has been amazing and taken me to parts of my home town I never knew existed.
- Robust and light weight. I toyed with Quadlock mounting of my phone for navigation but quickly realised how futile this is for long rides. Battery life, dust, rain and the potential to destroy the phone's image stabiliser weighed too heavily on me during rides. This unit removes all this anxiety and my phone is now tucked away in my jacket pocket.
Negatives:
- Syncing with Connect IQ has been a bit flakey for me with my particular phone - thankfully this is only an issue when I need to download a new app or widget, which isn't very often.
- Battery life is only average....and this leads me to my final point.
Has anyone successfully attached a power bank to this unit and tested it in the rain? The micro USB port has a plastic rain shield and is underneath so I'm wondering how risky linking the unit to a battery pack would be in rain. I'd love to know if anyone has successfully pulled this off. If so I can see this unit being a fantastic touring partner - allowing me to leave the maps at home.
- Large responsive touch screen. Very clear and works well in the rain after testing during some recent wet rides.
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- All the stats I could ever need.
- On the fly route generation. Give it a distance and it will calculate looped rides for you. This feature has been amazing and taken me to parts of my home town I never knew existed.
- Robust and light weight. I toyed with Quadlock mounting of my phone for navigation but quickly realised how futile this is for long rides. Battery life, dust, rain and the potential to destroy the phone's image stabiliser weighed too heavily on me during rides. This unit removes all this anxiety and my phone is now tucked away in my jacket pocket.
Negatives:
- Syncing with Connect IQ has been a bit flakey for me with my particular phone - thankfully this is only an issue when I need to download a new app or widget, which isn't very often.
- Battery life is only average....and this leads me to my final point.
Has anyone successfully attached a power bank to this unit and tested it in the rain? The micro USB port has a plastic rain shield and is underneath so I'm wondering how risky linking the unit to a battery pack would be in rain. I'd love to know if anyone has successfully pulled this off. If so I can see this unit being a fantastic touring partner - allowing me to leave the maps at home.
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I suspect the OP is not riding gravel roads in western Montana or some equally remote area. They mention roads, cycle and canal paths. I’d suspect the UK. They can likely get away with not having a map and compass but if on a tour, I’d carry as backup.
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I received one of these units for my birthday. So far I'm really enjoying it, so much so I'm considering using it on longer tours. What I really like:
- Large responsive touch screen. Very clear and works well in the rain after testing during some recent wet rides.
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- All the stats I could ever need.
- On the fly route generation. Give it a distance and it will calculate looped rides for you. This feature has been amazing and taken me to parts of my home town I never knew existed.
- Robust and light weight. I toyed with Quadlock mounting of my phone for navigation but quickly realised how futile this is for long rides. Battery life, dust, rain and the potential to destroy the phone's image stabiliser weighed too heavily on me during rides. This unit removes all this anxiety and my phone is now tucked away in my jacket pocket.
Negatives:
- Syncing with Connect IQ has been a bit flakey for me with my particular phone - thankfully this is only an issue when I need to download a new app or widget, which isn't very often.
- Battery life is only average....and this leads me to my final point.
Has anyone successfully attached a power bank to this unit and tested it in the rain? The micro USB port has a plastic rain shield and is underneath so I'm wondering how risky linking the unit to a battery pack would be in rain. I'd love to know if anyone has successfully pulled this off. If so I can see this unit being a fantastic touring partner - allowing me to leave the maps at home.
- Large responsive touch screen. Very clear and works well in the rain after testing during some recent wet rides.
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- All the stats I could ever need.
- On the fly route generation. Give it a distance and it will calculate looped rides for you. This feature has been amazing and taken me to parts of my home town I never knew existed.
- Robust and light weight. I toyed with Quadlock mounting of my phone for navigation but quickly realised how futile this is for long rides. Battery life, dust, rain and the potential to destroy the phone's image stabiliser weighed too heavily on me during rides. This unit removes all this anxiety and my phone is now tucked away in my jacket pocket.
Negatives:
- Syncing with Connect IQ has been a bit flakey for me with my particular phone - thankfully this is only an issue when I need to download a new app or widget, which isn't very often.
- Battery life is only average....and this leads me to my final point.
Has anyone successfully attached a power bank to this unit and tested it in the rain? The micro USB port has a plastic rain shield and is underneath so I'm wondering how risky linking the unit to a battery pack would be in rain. I'd love to know if anyone has successfully pulled this off. If so I can see this unit being a fantastic touring partner - allowing me to leave the maps at home.
I don’t think the Explore connects via WiFi directly, some units do. The manual actually has a note in the index for “WiFi” on page 1, but then there’s no mention of how to connect, typical Garmin. Page 8 in the manual has cryptic instructions that states you can do direct downloads from the iQ store to the device via a computer and USB cable.
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I received one of these units for my birthday. So far I'm really enjoying it, so much so I'm considering using it on longer tours. What I really like:
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- Very functional turn by turn navigation. By and large it avoids busy roads and put you on cycle paths and canal tracks if you set it up right.
- On the fly route generation. Give it a distance and it will calculate looped rides for you. This feature has been amazing and taken me to parts of my home town I never knew existed.
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Have you tried turn-by-turn navigation with pre-programmed routes? My old Garmin e-Trex was problematic with that. I have a newer e-Trex but haven't tried pre-programmed routes.
OK, but for tours I'm not sure if I'd trust a bike GPS to pick the best route. I use Google Maps to create routes before the tour & print little cue sheets. OTOH a GPS can be handy to find location when lost & also as a backup to the phone.
OK, but for tours I'm not sure if I'd trust a bike GPS to pick the best route. I use Google Maps to create routes before the tour & print little cue sheets. OTOH a GPS can be handy to find location when lost & also as a backup to the phone.
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Also, you can plan routes in Garmin connect, Strava, Google and other mapping tools on your phone or laptop and send them to the unit via Bluetooth. I would also have my phone with me as backup.
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Perhaps turn-by-turn navigation on pre-programmed routes has been improved over previous models but I wouldn't count on it since previously Garmin had many years to work on that issue & did nothing. Some Explore reviewers complain about kludgy UI & PC software.
Garmin's website doesn't even list the Explore memory capacity but I read it's 15GB which isn't ideal esp when the Explore doesn't accept memory cards & putting in 10X the internal memory would only cost $10 extra. Explore internal battery basically good for one day & then one needs to recharge it with power bank/dyno hub/electrical hookup. AA batteries would be much more convenient.
I don't want to hate on bike GPS's but touring is an after-thought at best for the manufacturers. Garmin's instructions are traditionally terrible, optimizing the devices can require absurd amounts of research & practice.
Garmin's website doesn't even list the Explore memory capacity but I read it's 15GB which isn't ideal esp when the Explore doesn't accept memory cards & putting in 10X the internal memory would only cost $10 extra. Explore internal battery basically good for one day & then one needs to recharge it with power bank/dyno hub/electrical hookup. AA batteries would be much more convenient.
I don't want to hate on bike GPS's but touring is an after-thought at best for the manufacturers. Garmin's instructions are traditionally terrible, optimizing the devices can require absurd amounts of research & practice.
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Perhaps turn-by-turn navigation on pre-programmed routes has been improved over previous models but I wouldn't count on it since previously Garmin had many years to work on that issue & did nothing. Some Explore reviewers complain about kludgy UI & PC software.
Garmin's website doesn't even list the Explore memory capacity but I read it's 15GB which isn't ideal esp when the Explore doesn't accept memory cards & putting in 10X the internal memory would only cost $10 extra. Explore internal battery basically good for one day & then one needs to recharge it with power bank/dyno hub/electrical hookup. AA batteries would be much more convenient.
I don't want to hate on bike GPS's but touring is an after-thought at best for the manufacturers. Garmin's instructions are traditionally terrible, optimizing the devices can require absurd amounts of research & practice.
Garmin's website doesn't even list the Explore memory capacity but I read it's 15GB which isn't ideal esp when the Explore doesn't accept memory cards & putting in 10X the internal memory would only cost $10 extra. Explore internal battery basically good for one day & then one needs to recharge it with power bank/dyno hub/electrical hookup. AA batteries would be much more convenient.
I don't want to hate on bike GPS's but touring is an after-thought at best for the manufacturers. Garmin's instructions are traditionally terrible, optimizing the devices can require absurd amounts of research & practice.
My Edge 1030 has 16 gig internal memory. I have the OSM maps as provided by Garmin for the entire US, as well as a set of Garmin Topo maps for the NE US in the device. Currently that's a bit over 8 gig as the device states internal memory used is 55%. I have never used or needed the SD card.
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This is my experience - it just works! Not encountered any major issues so far. As for maps, my unit by default shipped with the whole of Europe installed. That takes up about 6GB and the Explore has 16GB internal storage, just like the 1030. Adding new countries is easy if you follow DC Rainmaker's guide here: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/08/...rmin-edge.html
For big countries like the US you're talking another 5GB and much less for smaller European countries - so easily achievable with internal memory. I see no requirement for using an SD card based on this, and you can also clear and reload maps you're not using.
For big countries like the US you're talking another 5GB and much less for smaller European countries - so easily achievable with internal memory. I see no requirement for using an SD card based on this, and you can also clear and reload maps you're not using.
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I uses TBT navigation on an 1030 all the time,. I plan on RWGPS. It works very well and the only issue I've ever seen is when a route takes you on the same road twice in different directions, then the device takes a minute to figure out in which direction it's travelling before it can catch up. My friend on an Explore has zero issues as well. The Explore Touring was a model that people had many issues with, seemingly resolved with the Explore,, which is a different unit.
My Edge 1030 has 16 gig internal memory. I have the OSM maps as provided by Garmin for the entire US, as well as a set of Garmin Topo maps for the NE US in the device. Currently that's a bit over 8 gig as the device states internal memory used is 55%. I have never used or needed the SD card.
My Edge 1030 has 16 gig internal memory. I have the OSM maps as provided by Garmin for the entire US, as well as a set of Garmin Topo maps for the NE US in the device. Currently that's a bit over 8 gig as the device states internal memory used is 55%. I have never used or needed the SD card.
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Mostly correct in that you don't always need to navigate if the roads and turns are far and few. That saves some battery time but you might be using the device as your basic cycling computer and want to know distance and time data, so will have it running and installed. Thus you need to be able to charge it.
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I did some research on the etrex 30s and my conclusion was the removable AA batteries were not really going to be an advantage in a touring world where I'd be charging my mobile phone, headphones and usb lights anyway.
An inexpensive 10k mAh powerbamk is definitely the way to go. You could charge the Explore 10 times on one of these before needing to hit a wall socket.
You can also use the Explore as a normal GPS for hiking I suspect. Not sure if the maps lack specific details compared to the etrex. The default European maps seem very detailed and based onthe OpenStreetMap overlays.
An inexpensive 10k mAh powerbamk is definitely the way to go. You could charge the Explore 10 times on one of these before needing to hit a wall socket.
You can also use the Explore as a normal GPS for hiking I suspect. Not sure if the maps lack specific details compared to the etrex. The default European maps seem very detailed and based onthe OpenStreetMap overlays.
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I did some research on the etrex 30s and my conclusion was the removable AA batteries were not really going to be an advantage in a touring world where I'd be charging my mobile phone, headphones and usb lights anyway.
An inexpensive 10k mAh powerbamk is definitely the way to go. You could charge the Explore 10 times on one of these before needing to hit a wall socket.
You can also use the Explore as a normal GPS for hiking I suspect. Not sure if the maps lack specific details compared to the etrex. The default European maps seem very detailed and based onthe OpenStreetMap overlays.
An inexpensive 10k mAh powerbamk is definitely the way to go. You could charge the Explore 10 times on one of these before needing to hit a wall socket.
You can also use the Explore as a normal GPS for hiking I suspect. Not sure if the maps lack specific details compared to the etrex. The default European maps seem very detailed and based onthe OpenStreetMap overlays.
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Got one of these yesterday and gave it a little test on a ride to a restaurant two miles away (in Los Angeles) which I go to frequently. Love the device. Easy to see, reasonably easy to use.
One question though: is there any way to force the navigation to emphasize/choose bike routes? On my way to the aforementioned restaurant, I take a bike route (in this case, just a road with sharrows) which is one block south of a major road with lot of traffic going 40-50 mph. I used the navigation to see how it would work, and navigation was constantly telling me to take the larger road with dangerous traffic. I was surprised it didn't put me on the marked bike route (which goes almost the entire two miles, running south of that large road the entire time, so the bike route is clearly superior for bikes).
Is there a way to force the unit to choose bike routes when available? I think Google Maps does that...
I tried changing one of the settings from "roads" to "mixed roads" (I don't have the words exactly right, but something similar) but that made no change in the route on my way back home.
One question though: is there any way to force the navigation to emphasize/choose bike routes? On my way to the aforementioned restaurant, I take a bike route (in this case, just a road with sharrows) which is one block south of a major road with lot of traffic going 40-50 mph. I used the navigation to see how it would work, and navigation was constantly telling me to take the larger road with dangerous traffic. I was surprised it didn't put me on the marked bike route (which goes almost the entire two miles, running south of that large road the entire time, so the bike route is clearly superior for bikes).
Is there a way to force the unit to choose bike routes when available? I think Google Maps does that...
I tried changing one of the settings from "roads" to "mixed roads" (I don't have the words exactly right, but something similar) but that made no change in the route on my way back home.
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Bottom line is the units are not that smart at generating a course you might like. In theory, you can drag out your smartphone, open the Garmin Connect Mobile app, go to Training-Courses-Road Cycling-Custom and draw you're own route, then save it, sync it to the device than navigate that route. I generally and have never used the on-device navigation system, not trusting it to make smart decisions as to where I want to go. I pretty much use a RideWithGPS created route that I create online and download to the device prior to starting.
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Thanks, useful advice.
Was thinking about this after I posted and I can think of a couple of reasons for what I observed.
-- The bike route I'm talking about (for those familiar with LA, I'm talking about 4th st, rather than riding the very busy 3rd st which it parallels in going across most of the middle of the city) has a pretty bad surface for road riding, so it's possible that Garmin's "popularity" function shows lots of people riding on 3rd. After all, if you're on a group ride at 6 am, you'd take 3rd (which is in good condition) when traffic would be very light...
-- I went to google maps on my computer to see how it would route me and indeed it chose 4th street, the bike route, when routing... It's possible (likely?) that Google maps simply defaults to any bike route even when a non-bike-route street would be the better choice...
Anyway, I like the device and truth is, it's unlikely I'll use it a lot for navigating to previously-traveled-to destinations. So personally I don't find this a big problem. Just, as my very first experience with a Garmin device, and knowing they've been in the GPS and navigation biz for many years, I was a little surprised to have it try to route me on to the certain-death street. 🤓
Was thinking about this after I posted and I can think of a couple of reasons for what I observed.
-- The bike route I'm talking about (for those familiar with LA, I'm talking about 4th st, rather than riding the very busy 3rd st which it parallels in going across most of the middle of the city) has a pretty bad surface for road riding, so it's possible that Garmin's "popularity" function shows lots of people riding on 3rd. After all, if you're on a group ride at 6 am, you'd take 3rd (which is in good condition) when traffic would be very light...
-- I went to google maps on my computer to see how it would route me and indeed it chose 4th street, the bike route, when routing... It's possible (likely?) that Google maps simply defaults to any bike route even when a non-bike-route street would be the better choice...
Anyway, I like the device and truth is, it's unlikely I'll use it a lot for navigating to previously-traveled-to destinations. So personally I don't find this a big problem. Just, as my very first experience with a Garmin device, and knowing they've been in the GPS and navigation biz for many years, I was a little surprised to have it try to route me on to the certain-death street. 🤓
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