Equipment/Product Review (1971) Phil Wood Hubs
05-24-19, 11:09 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,991
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 436 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times
in
999 Posts
Equipment/Product Review (1971) Phil Wood Hubs
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
Last edited by SpeedofLite; 11-05-19 at 01:03 PM.
05-25-19, 09:22 AM
#2
Extraordinary Magnitude
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Posts: 13,647
Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT
Mentioned: 84 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2608 Post(s)
Liked 1,703 Times
in
937 Posts
Fantastic!
I've got an early set of 40 spoke Phil hubs- they still roll smooth, slick and glorious.
I've got an early set of 40 spoke Phil hubs- they still roll smooth, slick and glorious.
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
05-25-19, 09:38 AM
#3
aged to perfection
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: PacNW
Posts: 1,817
Bikes: Dinucci Allez 2.0, Richard Sachs, Alex Singer, Serotta, Masi GC, Raleigh Pro Mk.1, Hetchins, etc
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 838 Post(s)
Liked 1,258 Times
in
663 Posts
Thank you for posting this ! I remember this early article. Phil hubs and bottom bracket are classic and very functional parts, made right here in the good old USA.
Mark Petry
Bainbridge Island, WA USA
Mark Petry
Bainbridge Island, WA USA
05-25-19, 10:02 AM
#4
Senior Member
Thanks once again for that. Phil Wood hubs really were groundbreaking. Way smarter and way better than other hubs of the time, though as noted campy had taken the traditional hub to a very high level of refinement.
I never did understand the rationale for the steel center sleeve. They rusted whether he remembered to plate them or not. Obviously that was changed eventually.
I remember that Spence Wolfe custom wheels more often than not were built with Phil hubs, unsurprisingly. Almost always: Phil hubs, tied and soldered spokes, mod 58 rims, rim rope. Always a damn rim rope.
I never did understand the rationale for the steel center sleeve. They rusted whether he remembered to plate them or not. Obviously that was changed eventually.
I remember that Spence Wolfe custom wheels more often than not were built with Phil hubs, unsurprisingly. Almost always: Phil hubs, tied and soldered spokes, mod 58 rims, rim rope. Always a damn rim rope.
05-25-19, 10:28 AM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,831 Times
in
1,997 Posts
Thanks once again for that. Phil Wood hubs really were groundbreaking. Way smarter and way better than other hubs of the time, though as noted campy had taken the traditional hub to a very high level of refinement.
I never did understand the rationale for the steel center sleeve. They rusted whether he remembered to plate them or not. Obviously that was changed eventually.
I remember that Spence Wolfe custom wheels more often than not were built with Phil hubs, unsurprisingly. Almost always: Phil hubs, tied and soldered spokes, mod 58 rims, rim rope. Always a damn rim rope.
I never did understand the rationale for the steel center sleeve. They rusted whether he remembered to plate them or not. Obviously that was changed eventually.
I remember that Spence Wolfe custom wheels more often than not were built with Phil hubs, unsurprisingly. Almost always: Phil hubs, tied and soldered spokes, mod 58 rims, rim rope. Always a damn rim rope.
Later this went to a straight tube. and then Stainless steel tube.
My guess for the steel center was the threads also became the threading to mount the freewheel. Steel is stronger.
I have one set of "low" flange, well actually we used to call them medium flange. I bought them as part of a bike I purchased.
They are still quite smooth. Later stainless steel barrels. About 1975.
Now the dirt-
To replace the bearings by Phil, the wheel must be taken apart.
By design there is a small amount of lateral play, this always bugged me, made truing at the finish just that much more work and when moving the bike I always think the bike has a loose headset.
The wheels rattle.
Listed as an option on the initial collateral for Confente USA.
05-25-19, 08:24 PM
#6
Partially Sane.
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sunny Sacramento.
Posts: 3,559
Bikes: Soma Saga, pre-disc
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 972 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 643 Times
in
468 Posts
Very cool!👍 I just recently acquired a Phil front hub in a wheel, and plan to eventually grab a rear as well. I already have a similar Suntour BB (Grease Guard maybe?), so no real need for a Phil BB. That doesn't rule one out though, if it fell in my lap for a good price. 🤔😉
05-26-19, 07:02 AM
#7
Death fork? Naaaah!!
My Mirella came to me full NR/SR with the exception of first issue Phil hubs and BB. I did not feel cheated.
Top
Top
__________________
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
You know it's going to be a good day when the stem and seatpost come right out.
(looking for a picture and not seeing it? Thank the Photobucket fiasco.PM me and I'll link it up.)
