Just how big is the Miyata Cult?
11-15-17, 07:14 PM
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Pics from Dec '15 after replacing saddle rear tire/tube
I had replaced the bare plastic shell that was a saddle in the simplest form of the word, replaced the flat rear tire/tube added the mini-pump and seat bag. I didn't get to ride it much on that AZ visit - maybe 30 miles total.
November '16 New/Upgraded parts
Nashbar dual pivot brakes
New Shimano lined brake cables
SunTour Barcons
Used SunTour bare stainless barcon cable housings, with new inner wires
Bar tape
Old-school Tire Savers
Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech II 28mm tires /new tubes
water bottle cage / bottle
Pics as refurbished Nov '16
I still need to replace the chewed-up right brake hood, and I also found that the levers do not match - they're both labeled as AGC250 levers, but one is slotted and the other is solid - weird. I'd like to replace the levers with a matching pair (with good hoods), but those particular levers/hoods are hard to find.
I was only out in Phoenix a week last November, so I was busy with doing the upgrades with meager borrowed tools for two days. I managed to go on rides of 20, 30, 45 and 60 miles over the next days. Bike is very smooth and fast. I used to rides to find the 'sweet spot' in tire pressures for the wider-than-normal 28mm tires. Why 28s? The road surfaces in AZ are very rough due to the desert heat evaporating the asphalt binder, leaving a 'pebblestone' surface. I settled on 85F/95R with my 200-pound self in the saddle. The bike was bought last year with 23mm tire on the front and a 25mm on the rear, and it liked to rattle me to death. I found out on removing the front tire/tube that someone had used one of those very heavy/thick/stiff puncture resistant tubes in there which didn't help in the smoothness matters!
I had replaced the bare plastic shell that was a saddle in the simplest form of the word, replaced the flat rear tire/tube added the mini-pump and seat bag. I didn't get to ride it much on that AZ visit - maybe 30 miles total.
November '16 New/Upgraded parts
Nashbar dual pivot brakes
New Shimano lined brake cables
SunTour Barcons
Used SunTour bare stainless barcon cable housings, with new inner wires
Bar tape
Old-school Tire Savers
Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech II 28mm tires /new tubes
water bottle cage / bottle
Pics as refurbished Nov '16
I still need to replace the chewed-up right brake hood, and I also found that the levers do not match - they're both labeled as AGC250 levers, but one is slotted and the other is solid - weird. I'd like to replace the levers with a matching pair (with good hoods), but those particular levers/hoods are hard to find.
I was only out in Phoenix a week last November, so I was busy with doing the upgrades with meager borrowed tools for two days. I managed to go on rides of 20, 30, 45 and 60 miles over the next days. Bike is very smooth and fast. I used to rides to find the 'sweet spot' in tire pressures for the wider-than-normal 28mm tires. Why 28s? The road surfaces in AZ are very rough due to the desert heat evaporating the asphalt binder, leaving a 'pebblestone' surface. I settled on 85F/95R with my 200-pound self in the saddle. The bike was bought last year with 23mm tire on the front and a 25mm on the rear, and it liked to rattle me to death. I found out on removing the front tire/tube that someone had used one of those very heavy/thick/stiff puncture resistant tubes in there which didn't help in the smoothness matters!
11-16-17, 07:42 AM
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The 710 looks good. It's too bad you don't get to ride it more.
11-16-17, 06:29 PM
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11-16-17, 06:57 PM
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Hmmm
Currently I have two 710's an '85 in 60cm and an '86 in 57cm
An '84 610 that needs assembling.
A 1990 Carbon Tech CT-3000. Its triangle is carbon wrapped aluminum tubes glued to aluminum lugs with aluminum triangle and fork. I need to just ride it more. In fact, I think I'll take it to work tomorrow. I bought it off Craig's list, took it on some short rides, got a flat and stuffed it into my chaos lab. Yeah, I'm taking it to work tomorrow!
Currently I have two 710's an '85 in 60cm and an '86 in 57cm
An '84 610 that needs assembling.
A 1990 Carbon Tech CT-3000. Its triangle is carbon wrapped aluminum tubes glued to aluminum lugs with aluminum triangle and fork. I need to just ride it more. In fact, I think I'll take it to work tomorrow. I bought it off Craig's list, took it on some short rides, got a flat and stuffed it into my chaos lab. Yeah, I'm taking it to work tomorrow!
11-16-17, 08:34 PM
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About the 85/86 710, I think they're special. Triple butted tubing but not spline means a firm but not overly stiff ride. The 912 has a sportier position with a longer top tube, and much less wheel clearence, it's very sporty. The 710 is quite sporty and responsive but it has room for fatter tires. It has fender brazes and the space for actual fenders.
The chain stays aren't long enough for true touring panniers, but you can add a rack and trunk bag, and a handle bar bag for enough capacity for an overnight or a heavy commute. Basically anything short of actual touring, which covers about 95% of what you'd want to do with a bike. I've been riding for 5/6 years and I've been on some long trips, but I still haven't been on a legit loaded tour yet.
Shoot, with the clearence on the '85 I bet it would do a decent impersonation of a gravel bike or a cross bike. I really like these frames.
The chain stays aren't long enough for true touring panniers, but you can add a rack and trunk bag, and a handle bar bag for enough capacity for an overnight or a heavy commute. Basically anything short of actual touring, which covers about 95% of what you'd want to do with a bike. I've been riding for 5/6 years and I've been on some long trips, but I still haven't been on a legit loaded tour yet.
Shoot, with the clearence on the '85 I bet it would do a decent impersonation of a gravel bike or a cross bike. I really like these frames.
11-16-17, 09:15 PM
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11-17-17, 05:26 AM
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About the 85/86 710, I think they're special. Triple butted tubing but not spline means a firm but not overly stiff ride. The 912 has a sportier position with a longer top tube, and much less wheel clearence, it's very sporty. The 710 is quite sporty and responsive but it has room for fatter tires. It has fender brazes and the space for actual fenders.
The chain stays aren't long enough for true touring panniers, but you can add a rack and trunk bag, and a handle bar bag for enough capacity for an overnight or a heavy commute. Basically anything short of actual touring, which covers about 95% of what you'd want to do with a bike. I've been riding for 5/6 years and I've been on some long trips, but I still haven't been on a legit loaded tour yet.
Shoot, with the clearence on the '85 I bet it would do a decent impersonation of a gravel bike or a cross bike. I really like these frames.
The chain stays aren't long enough for true touring panniers, but you can add a rack and trunk bag, and a handle bar bag for enough capacity for an overnight or a heavy commute. Basically anything short of actual touring, which covers about 95% of what you'd want to do with a bike. I've been riding for 5/6 years and I've been on some long trips, but I still haven't been on a legit loaded tour yet.
Shoot, with the clearence on the '85 I bet it would do a decent impersonation of a gravel bike or a cross bike. I really like these frames.
11-17-17, 06:33 AM
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Yup, the '86 has the clearence for 28's. I think it came with short reach Diacomp 400 brakes, the '85 has the manga-light fork and came with long reach dia-comp 500 brakes. The '86 is the awesome do it all road bike, the '85 is all that with loads of clearance. I'll snap a picture on my way out the door.
The '84 710 had hi-tension forks and in '87 the 710 was changed to the 712 with Shimano 105 and the through the tube cable guide. Those guides introduced an in needed weak point, and I think 105 is a step down from Cyclone.
The '85 and '86 hit a sweet spot for me. The full evolution of the model before it became something different in 1987.
The '84 710 had hi-tension forks and in '87 the 710 was changed to the 712 with Shimano 105 and the through the tube cable guide. Those guides introduced an in needed weak point, and I think 105 is a step down from Cyclone.
The '85 and '86 hit a sweet spot for me. The full evolution of the model before it became something different in 1987.
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11-18-17, 07:55 AM
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'87 the 710 was changed to the 712 with Shimano 105 and the through the tube cable guide. Those guides introduced an in needed weak point, and I think 105 is a step down from Cyclone.
The '85 and '86 hit a sweet spot for me. The full evolution of the model before it became something different in 1987.
The '85 and '86 hit a sweet spot for me. The full evolution of the model before it became something different in 1987.
02-16-18, 12:09 AM
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Not to dig this up, but I just got a immaculate 1990 914. The guy even put 600 stuff on it.
Anyways, I put a front wheel in with a 25mm tire and it was rubbing. I was shocked. Is this common? I may do 23 in the front and 25 in the back.
Anyways, I put a front wheel in with a 25mm tire and it was rubbing. I was shocked. Is this common? I may do 23 in the front and 25 in the back.
02-16-18, 06:15 PM
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I run 25's on my 89 1400 no problem but clearance is pretty close, am pretty sure it had 20's on it when I bought it new as was the style then
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03-23-18, 06:31 PM
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These latest posts are making me feel like a knucklehead for selling my 710 a few years back. I am on the hunt!
03-25-18, 09:17 PM
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I have two miyata 1000 frames/forks in very very good shape, '81 and 84, both in classic blue----------one of which that I will part with. one is around 57cm (23"), the other is 63cm (25"). the difference between the two are 2 more bottle mounts, seat tube and below downtube on the '84, and the decals. I also have the brakes and stem, seatpost with both. I know I'll build up atleast one of them.
I had an '89 1000 called a "grand touring" when they first came out, looks just like the '81. I looked for that one for years, finally found one in the '84 version, but it is slightly small for me
remedied with a taller stem, but then I found a 25" in the '81 and now have two! if anyone is interested, let me know.
I had an '89 1000 called a "grand touring" when they first came out, looks just like the '81. I looked for that one for years, finally found one in the '84 version, but it is slightly small for me
remedied with a taller stem, but then I found a 25" in the '81 and now have two! if anyone is interested, let me know.
03-25-18, 11:58 PM
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From '81/'82 to '84/'85 and later, the chain stays increased from 43cm to 45cm. That in conjunction with added bottle cage braze-ons, canti brakes (already standard on 1000s by at least '82), and mid-fork lowrider rack mounts was what I would call "peak touring bike" for the '80s. Miyata also increased fork rake for the 1000s, dropping the trail from 59mm or so (my '82) to the 40s (IIRC, by '85). All throughout, the 1000 was always termed, via catalog, as a grand tourer, or part of the grand touring line of bikes from them.
This is my 1982 1000 in Royal Green. Such a wonderful color--very intriguing. Had to have the rear canti-bosses repaired as well as the rear derailleur hanger, and thanks to @gugie it was done. After that, I had to become Bob Ross and mix automotive touch-up paint colors to get as close to this hunter/army green metallic as possible. And from 5-7 feet away, it's quite hard to tell. Success!
I had intended for a 3x9 Shimano Dura-Ace down tube-shifting setup to adorn this top-end tourer with, but those pieces landed on my '74 Paramount, where they have been an immensely welcome addition.
So what to do? Well, I have fond memories of my first Campagnolo Ergo groupset experience, 9-speed Veloce. So I got the band back together, albeit with a new drummer (Veloce triple crankset for the Comp Triple originally) and rhythm guitarist (unnamed triple FD for a Racing T IIRC). Some cheap (priced, not quality) take-off Campy-splined wheels from a new Raleigh, and original-spec Dia Compe 960 cantis and I was in business. Wonderful Continental Gran Sport Race 700x32mm folding tires provide great grip mounted on those 24mm wide polished rims. The 120mm Technomic stem is new, the Highway 1 bars aren't. Neither is the Specialized 26.8mm seatpost or Fizik Aliente carbon saddle. Doesn't matter. This thing is smooooooth, and is the first bike that I can say "disappears" beneath me. It comports itself as the grand tourer it was designed to be. The 'full feature' Veloce shifters have a lovely clarity in their shifting. Somehow, 10-speed Ergos require a touch more delicacy. They shift well, and both shift smoothly, it's just the 9-speed is more 'obvious' about it.
I could ride this thing a long ways.
This is my 1982 1000 in Royal Green. Such a wonderful color--very intriguing. Had to have the rear canti-bosses repaired as well as the rear derailleur hanger, and thanks to @gugie it was done. After that, I had to become Bob Ross and mix automotive touch-up paint colors to get as close to this hunter/army green metallic as possible. And from 5-7 feet away, it's quite hard to tell. Success!
I had intended for a 3x9 Shimano Dura-Ace down tube-shifting setup to adorn this top-end tourer with, but those pieces landed on my '74 Paramount, where they have been an immensely welcome addition.
So what to do? Well, I have fond memories of my first Campagnolo Ergo groupset experience, 9-speed Veloce. So I got the band back together, albeit with a new drummer (Veloce triple crankset for the Comp Triple originally) and rhythm guitarist (unnamed triple FD for a Racing T IIRC). Some cheap (priced, not quality) take-off Campy-splined wheels from a new Raleigh, and original-spec Dia Compe 960 cantis and I was in business. Wonderful Continental Gran Sport Race 700x32mm folding tires provide great grip mounted on those 24mm wide polished rims. The 120mm Technomic stem is new, the Highway 1 bars aren't. Neither is the Specialized 26.8mm seatpost or Fizik Aliente carbon saddle. Doesn't matter. This thing is smooooooth, and is the first bike that I can say "disappears" beneath me. It comports itself as the grand tourer it was designed to be. The 'full feature' Veloce shifters have a lovely clarity in their shifting. Somehow, 10-speed Ergos require a touch more delicacy. They shift well, and both shift smoothly, it's just the 9-speed is more 'obvious' about it.
I could ride this thing a long ways.
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03-26-18, 07:33 AM
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Miyata seat stay cap by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
Miyata 1000LT "spline Triple butted" decal by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
Miyata 1000LT Splined CrMo fork by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
Miyata 1000LT "Spline Triple Butted CrMo" seat tube decal by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
1990 Miyata 1000LT by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
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There's a guy looking from abroad at a Miyata 610 that looks to be in very good shape (and is the same year as my one-time commuter). He says he wants to tour. Buyer wants $575. Posters are telling him to look elsewhere. I told him that from my experience, I think he will not regret spending that much money for a nice 610 unless he had time to spend looking further; that he won't regret spending this much down the line if he indeed does ride/tour on this bike.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ted-price.html
Take a look. If you agree, maybe some of you more passionate Miyata owners should step up and encourage him. (I never did the bike justice. I had crashed my far lesser Sekine fix gear commuter, stripped the Miyata I had just picked up from the back of a bike shop, and threw my old parts on it. Rode it 18 years, every winter and crashed it hard several times. Fit was so-so. Geometry for the job it did; more so-so. But I was impressed. Very well built and thought out. I did that bike a major disservice. It quietly served me beyond the call of duty and died in hard crash.)
Ben
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ted-price.html
Take a look. If you agree, maybe some of you more passionate Miyata owners should step up and encourage him. (I never did the bike justice. I had crashed my far lesser Sekine fix gear commuter, stripped the Miyata I had just picked up from the back of a bike shop, and threw my old parts on it. Rode it 18 years, every winter and crashed it hard several times. Fit was so-so. Geometry for the job it did; more so-so. But I was impressed. Very well built and thought out. I did that bike a major disservice. It quietly served me beyond the call of duty and died in hard crash.)
Ben
03-28-18, 08:00 AM
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There's a guy looking from abroad at a Miyata 610 that looks to be in very good shape (and is the same year as my one-time commuter). He says he wants to tour. Buyer wants $575. Posters are telling him to look elsewhere. I told him that from my experience, I think he will not regret spending that much money for a nice 610 unless he had time to spend looking further; that he won't regret spending this much down the line if he indeed does ride/tour on this bike.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ted-price.html
Take a look. If you agree, maybe some of you more passionate Miyata owners should step up and encourage him. (I never did the bike justice. I had crashed my far lesser Sekine fix gear commuter, stripped the Miyata I had just picked up from the back of a bike shop, and threw my old parts on it. Rode it 18 years, every winter and crashed it hard several times. Fit was so-so. Geometry for the job it did; more so-so. But I was impressed. Very well built and thought out. I did that bike a major disservice. It quietly served me beyond the call of duty and died in hard crash.)
Ben
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ted-price.html
Take a look. If you agree, maybe some of you more passionate Miyata owners should step up and encourage him. (I never did the bike justice. I had crashed my far lesser Sekine fix gear commuter, stripped the Miyata I had just picked up from the back of a bike shop, and threw my old parts on it. Rode it 18 years, every winter and crashed it hard several times. Fit was so-so. Geometry for the job it did; more so-so. But I was impressed. Very well built and thought out. I did that bike a major disservice. It quietly served me beyond the call of duty and died in hard crash.)
Ben
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03-28-18, 08:57 AM
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03-28-18, 08:17 PM
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Dang, Did I forget to post my Dec '17 acquisition in this thread? A too-tall-for-me 25" '81 Miyata 1000 in 'burgundy'? Mostly original condition. but missing the factory racks. Found on local Craigslist, but wanted to get it just because I couldn't bear to see it turned in to a Fixie...
Seller's photo from Craigslist ad....
If anyone is interested, I'll be selling it for what I bought it for. I just want it to go to a good home... Specs and component list upon request.
Oh, and on another note, the AZ bike, my '86 710, is currently being shipped back here to The North Coast so I can ride it more. I was out in AZ a couple of weeks ago and after riding only ~40 miles in that week, I made arrangements to have it shipped home via Bikeflights using a 'new' Bikeflights-affiliated shop in Mesa. They had just signed up as a Bikeflights partner, and had two other bikes waiting to be packed/shipped, and had not yet shipped any... This should prove 'interesting'....
Seller's photo from Craigslist ad....
If anyone is interested, I'll be selling it for what I bought it for. I just want it to go to a good home... Specs and component list upon request.
Oh, and on another note, the AZ bike, my '86 710, is currently being shipped back here to The North Coast so I can ride it more. I was out in AZ a couple of weeks ago and after riding only ~40 miles in that week, I made arrangements to have it shipped home via Bikeflights using a 'new' Bikeflights-affiliated shop in Mesa. They had just signed up as a Bikeflights partner, and had two other bikes waiting to be packed/shipped, and had not yet shipped any... This should prove 'interesting'....
04-01-18, 06:57 PM
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From '81/'82 to '84/'85 and later, the chain stays increased from 43cm to 45cm. That in conjunction with added bottle cage braze-ons, canti brakes (already standard on 1000s by at least '82), and mid-fork lowrider rack mounts was what I would call "peak touring bike" for the '80s. Miyata also increased fork rake for the 1000s, dropping the trail from 59mm or so (my '82) to the 40s (IIRC, by '85). All throughout, the 1000 was always termed, via catalog, as a grand tourer, or part of the grand touring line of bikes from them.
This is my 1982 1000 in Royal Green. Such a wonderful color--very intriguing. Had to have the rear canti-bosses repaired as well as the rear derailleur hanger, and thanks to @gugie it was done. After that, I had to become Bob Ross and mix automotive touch-up paint colors to get as close to this hunter/army green metallic as possible. And from 5-7 feet away, it's quite hard to tell. Success!
I had intended for a 3x9 Shimano Dura-Ace down tube-shifting setup to adorn this top-end tourer with, but those pieces landed on my '74 Paramount, where they have been an immensely welcome addition.
So what to do? Well, I have fond memories of my first Campagnolo Ergo groupset experience, 9-speed Veloce. So I got the band back together, albeit with a new drummer (Veloce triple crankset for the Comp Triple originally) and rhythm guitarist (unnamed triple FD for a Racing T IIRC). Some cheap (priced, not quality) take-off Campy-splined wheels from a new Raleigh, and original-spec Dia Compe 960 cantis and I was in business. Wonderful Continental Gran Sport Race 700x32mm folding tires provide great grip mounted on those 24mm wide polished rims. The 120mm Technomic stem is new, the Highway 1 bars aren't. Neither is the Specialized 26.8mm seatpost or Fizik Aliente carbon saddle. Doesn't matter. This thing is smooooooth, and is the first bike that I can say "disappears" beneath me. It comports itself as the grand tourer it was designed to be. The 'full feature' Veloce shifters have a lovely clarity in their shifting. Somehow, 10-speed Ergos require a touch more delicacy. They shift well, and both shift smoothly, it's just the 9-speed is more 'obvious' about it.
I could ride this thing a long ways.
This is my 1982 1000 in Royal Green. Such a wonderful color--very intriguing. Had to have the rear canti-bosses repaired as well as the rear derailleur hanger, and thanks to @gugie it was done. After that, I had to become Bob Ross and mix automotive touch-up paint colors to get as close to this hunter/army green metallic as possible. And from 5-7 feet away, it's quite hard to tell. Success!
I had intended for a 3x9 Shimano Dura-Ace down tube-shifting setup to adorn this top-end tourer with, but those pieces landed on my '74 Paramount, where they have been an immensely welcome addition.
So what to do? Well, I have fond memories of my first Campagnolo Ergo groupset experience, 9-speed Veloce. So I got the band back together, albeit with a new drummer (Veloce triple crankset for the Comp Triple originally) and rhythm guitarist (unnamed triple FD for a Racing T IIRC). Some cheap (priced, not quality) take-off Campy-splined wheels from a new Raleigh, and original-spec Dia Compe 960 cantis and I was in business. Wonderful Continental Gran Sport Race 700x32mm folding tires provide great grip mounted on those 24mm wide polished rims. The 120mm Technomic stem is new, the Highway 1 bars aren't. Neither is the Specialized 26.8mm seatpost or Fizik Aliente carbon saddle. Doesn't matter. This thing is smooooooth, and is the first bike that I can say "disappears" beneath me. It comports itself as the grand tourer it was designed to be. The 'full feature' Veloce shifters have a lovely clarity in their shifting. Somehow, 10-speed Ergos require a touch more delicacy. They shift well, and both shift smoothly, it's just the 9-speed is more 'obvious' about it.
I could ride this thing a long ways.
I'm liking it all. my '81 blue is looking like it'll get the update, the '84 will get the original treatment with the exception of the crank. it will be a VO with 48-32, but otherwise look closer to the orig with nicer weinmann brake levers and suntour bar ends, but also use the suntour cyclone rear der longcage with a larger cluster.
this '81 of yours is sweet ----------- does look comfortable. how tall are you? is it slightly tall, but with a good top tube length, now with the 120 stem?
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pretty sweet "early century update, interesting specs. did you have to cold set the rear to 130?
I'm liking it all. my '81 blue is looking like it'll get the update, the '84 will get the original treatment with the exception of the crank. it will be a VO with 48-32, but otherwise look closer to the orig with nicer weinmann brake levers and suntour bar ends, but also use the suntour cyclone rear der longcage with a larger cluster.
this '81 of yours is sweet ----------- does look comfortable. how tall are you? is it slightly tall, but with a good top tube length, now with the 120 stem?
I'm liking it all. my '81 blue is looking like it'll get the update, the '84 will get the original treatment with the exception of the crank. it will be a VO with 48-32, but otherwise look closer to the orig with nicer weinmann brake levers and suntour bar ends, but also use the suntour cyclone rear der longcage with a larger cluster.
this '81 of yours is sweet ----------- does look comfortable. how tall are you? is it slightly tall, but with a good top tube length, now with the 120 stem?
I didn't plan for cold setting, but it was done. Normally with a 126mm dropout spacing, I never cold set as it doesn't matter really. Going from 120 spacing to 130 and I will (and have done).
I'm 6'5" and the TT is 57.5cm. The 120mm stem + short reach (aka "compact") Soma Highway One handlebars make for the perfect reach given the TT length and frame angles (I have a known set of measurements I work with for fitting me to a bike). If I used normal dropbars or something like a Nitto Noodle, I would have opted for a 90-100mm stem as those bars' reach is noticeably more than the Soma bars. Fits me incredibly well.
