Suggestions for high-quality, fast 32 or 35 mm tires and rims?
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I’m really surprised that so many people have suggested the gravelkings. I thought I might be the only one. I’m quite surprised, but I’m clearly in good company.
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It's a nice rolling & performing tire at a great price point. that lands somewhere between the more expensive Compass tires, and a more robust T-serv/pasela
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And we're in something of a golden age as far as options for 30-40mm tires go right now. Certainly a lot more options than there were just a few years ago.
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Good to know. The Gravelkings are also a good tire from what I've heard; at least I don't know anyone who has anything bad to say about them. Except for people riding directly behind them--they're called Gravel Flings for a reason.
And we're in something of a golden age as far as options for 30-40mm tires go right now. Certainly a lot more options than there were just a few years ago.
And we're in something of a golden age as far as options for 30-40mm tires go right now. Certainly a lot more options than there were just a few years ago.
i agree, the options in this range are fantastic. I really want to try the 32mm Teravail Rampart, but I’m waiting for the ‘tanwall’ version. Currently that’s only available in 38mm, and I’m personally not keen on solid black tires.
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I have the Bontrager Hard Case tires 700x32 that came stock on my Trek FXS6, and I'm more than happy with them. Great grip, low rolling resistance, and (knocks on wood) so far quite flat resistant. I'll probably switch over to tubleless when I wear these out.
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Just saw Jack Brown Green folding tires from Planet X bikes in the UK for around $21.
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its good that you’re happy, but they are still very heavy tires. They may be ‘fast’ rolling and offer good grip for what they are, but so do my schwalbe delta cruisers. In the big picture though, they’re still heavy and slow. I’m not trying to knock you or your tires, and it actually makes no difference to me what anybody rides on. But you could see massive gains in grip, and general ‘speed’ (shedding of a lot of rotational weight) allowing them to spin up faster. A net positive in efficiency and with it a likely increase in average speed, if you upgraded. And for probably little money invested. I hope you choose a better tire when you decide to replace them. In the mean time, might I suggest a set of panaracer gravelking’s.
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I had a set of those Really good tire. They were the tires that sold me on “big, fast, light, and supple”. The Compass tires I got after those were smoother, but not a whole lot faster. For $21 it sounds like a great deal.
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its good that you’re happy, but they are still very heavy tires. They may be ‘fast’ rolling and offer good grip for what they are, but so do my schwalbe delta cruisers. In the big picture though, they’re still heavy and slow. I’m not trying to knock you or your tires, and it actually makes no difference to me what anybody rides on. But you could see massive gains in grip, and general ‘speed’ (shedding of a lot of rotational weight) allowing them to spin up faster. A net positive in efficiency and with it a likely increase in average speed, if you upgraded. And for probably little money invested. I hope you choose a better tire when you decide to replace them. In the mean time, might I suggest a set of panaracer gravelking’s.
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I just realized I only have 28 mm and 35 mm tubes on hand. Would there be much of a performance hit or other issues if I use those with the 32 mm Gravelking tires? Which would be better to use, the 28 mm or 35 mm?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
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Where are you guys finding quantitative rolling resistance measurements for your tires? https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com seems to have the largest dataset for bike tires. Just because a bike tire feels fast doesn't mean it is actually fast.
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I just realized I only have 28 mm and 35 mm tubes on hand. Would there be much of a performance hit or other issues if I use those with the 32 mm Gravelking tires? Which would be better to use, the 28 mm or 35 mm?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
Most tubes have ranges of tires they recommend (28-32, 35-43, etc...)
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What do the number really mean?
Where are you guys finding quantitative rolling resistance measurements for your tires? https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com seems to have the largest dataset for bike tires. Just because a bike tire feels fast doesn't mean it is actually fast.
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Where are you guys finding quantitative rolling resistance measurements for your tires? https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com seems to have the largest dataset for bike tires. Just because a bike tire feels fast doesn't mean it is actually fast.
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i always use no name cheap tires. Over a thousand urban miles on 1.5" cheap Kenda tires...never get flat.
also have cheap oem no-name 25mm tires...very light weight, fast...again, hundreds of miles, only one flat.
i went into the LBS looking to try 28, they want $50 for just one brand name tire...i was blown away. two tires cost always as much as m bike is worth. crazy, i just stick to cheap tires from online.
not sure why people willing to pay so much for so little more.
also have cheap oem no-name 25mm tires...very light weight, fast...again, hundreds of miles, only one flat.
i went into the LBS looking to try 28, they want $50 for just one brand name tire...i was blown away. two tires cost always as much as m bike is worth. crazy, i just stick to cheap tires from online.
not sure why people willing to pay so much for so little more.
You're shopping in the wrong place for good prices.
I've been using a set of Kenda Kwicks on my street friendly MTB for years. I can't seem to wear them out. When I bought them they were only $10 each. They're definitely not my favorite tire, but they seem to be very durable.
I've been using a set of Kenda Kwicks on my street friendly MTB for years. I can't seem to wear them out. When I bought them they were only $10 each. They're definitely not my favorite tire, but they seem to be very durable.
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I just realized I only have 28 mm and 35 mm tubes on hand. Would there be much of a performance hit or other issues if I use those with the 32 mm Gravelking tires? Which would be better to use, the 28 mm or 35 mm?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
In case I buy new 32 mm tubes, anyone have suggestions for ones that'd go well with the Gravelking 32 mm tires mounted on my 35 mm Bontrager rims?
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i always use no name cheap tires. Over a thousand urban miles on 1.5" cheap Kenda tires...never get flat.
also have cheap oem no-name 25mm tires...very light weight, fast...again, hundreds of miles, only one flat.
i went into the LBS looking to try 28, they want $50 for just one brand name tire...i was blown away. two tires cost always as much as m bike is worth. crazy, i just stick to cheap tires from online.
not sure why people willing to pay so much for so little more.
also have cheap oem no-name 25mm tires...very light weight, fast...again, hundreds of miles, only one flat.
i went into the LBS looking to try 28, they want $50 for just one brand name tire...i was blown away. two tires cost always as much as m bike is worth. crazy, i just stick to cheap tires from online.
not sure why people willing to pay so much for so little more.
2- the OP asked for high quality fast tires. Rambling about inexpensive heavy tires isnt helpful or applicable.
3- what bike are you referring to when you say a $100 set of tires costs as much as the bike is worth? You have so many vague bikes at this point, I can't keep track.
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Where are you guys finding quantitative rolling resistance measurements for your tires? https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com seems to have the largest dataset for bike tires. Just because a bike tire feels fast doesn't mean it is actually fast.
Personally, I’ll go with my subjective impressions in the real world conditions I ride in over relaible, repeatable, and quantifiable results in conditions completely unlike those I ride in.
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True, but how a tire rolls on a small diameter smooth metal drum also has its issues when using it to determine real world results.
Personally, I’ll go with my subjective impressions in the real world conditions I ride in over relaible, repeatable, and quantifiable results in conditions completely unlike those I ride in.
while a drum test isnt perfect, it's certainly better than using manufacturer's advertising which is another main way of finding tires.
asking here is often a hit or miss scenario where you will get repeated suggestions due to group thought and use along with a couple outlier suggestions.
repeatable tests - gimme some of that for sure.
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Uhmmm, yes it does.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/precise
Maybe not according to BroScience, but yeah.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/precise
Maybe not according to BroScience, but yeah.
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Uhmmm, yes it does.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/precise
Maybe not according to BroScience, but yeah.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/precise
Maybe not according to BroScience, but yeah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision
Undertanding the difference between accuracy vs precision is pretty much Experimental Design & Data Interpretation 101.
More specific to this example, just because you keep getting the same resistance values (high precision) does not mean these values reflect what you really want to know (rolling resistance in real world conditions).
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True, but how a tire rolls on a small diameter smooth metal drum also has its issues when using it to determine real world results.
Personally, I’ll go with my subjective impressions in the real world conditions I ride in over relaible, repeatable, and quantifiable results in conditions completely unlike those I ride in.