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Old 08-07-18, 03:18 AM
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What's strange to me about the "you're just upset that you don't have enough money" comments is that clearly there's so much more than money to want. Money and wealth and the newest bestest technology has always been a status symbol. I love my bike. I just wish I could talk to some of the more serious athletic roadies and find some group rides without being afraid of getting treated like garbage.

Just my 2 cents and probably all I'll say on the subject.
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Originally Posted by KraneXL
Hardly real world? I don't know how things are in your town, but here in LA I assure you those drawing are no exaggeration. Super Big Gulp and all. You must be walking around with blinders on? What is more likely is that they will simply encroach upon the precious little space now designated for traditional cyclist.
Get out of LA, maybe the blinders are locally imposed.
E-bikes are hardly contributing to overweight humans.
Maybe LA should limit soda sizes, fast food, LaZBoy recliners and TV. A free e- bike for anyone who eliminates those 4 things. Reduce America's medical budget deficit.
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Old 08-07-18, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
What are all those white things I see driving down I-65 on my way to Kentucky?

Indiana | Meadow Lake Wind Farm
They're all over the place around here. Among the Worlds largest. We call them "bird blenders". PSA to all migratory fowl: "Learn to bypass Indiana"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Indiana
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick
I remember mopeds also being controversial. That was in the 1970s, which is when I remember them taking off in a big way.
I don't remember mopeds ever "taking off in a big way" in the U.S.
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Old 08-07-18, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
I don't remember mopeds ever "taking off in a big way" in the U.S.
There was a bit of a moped boom in the 1970s. This Wikipedia post mentions it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moped#...ntries/regions

Scroll down to the entry for the United States and you'll read:

"Prior to the 1970s, use of mopeds in the United States was relatively rare due to legal restrictions on the devices in many states. ... Because of the problems caused by the 1970s energy crisis, mopeds quickly became popular, with more than 250,000 people in the United States owning one in 1977. "

I lived through all that, and I remember mopeds coming out of nowhere to be a thing. They had pedals at first, but the pedals soon went away. Customers wanted the "vroom!" No one wanted to actually pedal the things.
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Old 08-07-18, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
how is soy milk not milk and how does it compare to e-bikes?
Milk is produced exclusively by mammals. "Soy milk" is soy juice.
Bicycles are propelled exclusively by human power. "e-bikes" have a motor.
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Old 08-07-18, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick
There was a bit of a moped boom in the 1970s. This Wikipedia post mentions it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moped#...ntries/regions

Scroll down to the entry for the United States and you'll read:

"Prior to the 1970s, use of mopeds in the United States was relatively rare due to legal restrictions on the devices in many states. ... Because of the problems caused by the 1970s energy crisis, mopeds quickly became popular, with more than 250,000 people in the United States owning one in 1977. "

I lived through all that, and I remember mopeds coming out of nowhere to be a thing. They had pedals at first, but the pedals soon went away. Customers wanted the "vroom!" No one wanted to actually pedal the things.
If someone mentioned it ("250,000 people in the United States owning one in 1977" without any reference) in a Wikipedia post, it must be so. You may remember "a thing", I remember hardly ever seeing anyone riding a moped anywhere; a small motorcycle always made far more sense than a moped for almost every practical transportation purpose. Was true in 1977 and is still true today.
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Old 08-07-18, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Milk is produced exclusively by mammals. "Soy milk" is soy juice.
Bicycles are propelled exclusively by human power. "e-bikes" have a motor.
that's why they call them e-bikes not bikes- do de lineate the difference between the two. motocycle- is a bicycle with a motor. a bicycle is technically any vehicle with 2 wheels.
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Originally Posted by Stormy Archer
What's strange to me about the "you're just upset that you don't have enough money" comments is that clearly there's so much more than money to want. Money and wealth and the newest bestest technology has always been a status symbol. I love my bike. I just wish I could talk to some of the more serious athletic roadies and find some group rides without being afraid of getting treated like garbage.

Just my 2 cents and probably all I'll say on the subject.
I've seen people get annoyed by folks who were way too slow for a particular group, but I have never seen anyone complain about someone using too cheap of a bike. Most people don't care, and if they do make fun of you it's probably in a joking manner.
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Old 08-07-18, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormy Archer
What's strange to me about the "you're just upset that you don't have enough money" comments is that clearly there's so much more than money to want. Money and wealth and the newest bestest technology has always been a status symbol. I love my bike. I just wish I could talk to some of the more serious athletic roadies and find some group rides without being afraid of getting treated like garbage.

Just my 2 cents and probably all I'll say on the subject.
It's a fast lonely existence ... riding an ebike.


So much plain wrong info put forth by fuddy-duddys that have never ridden an ebike.

You can get just as much exercise, or maybe more with an ebike.
Just because Class 1 ebikes shut off at 20mph doesn't mean that's all the fast they will go.
You nannies need only worry about yourselves.....let the rest of us do as we please.. within the law.
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Old 08-07-18, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
It's a fast lonely existence ... riding an ebike.


So much plain wrong info put forth by fuddy-duddys that have never ridden an ebike.

You can get just as much exercise, or maybe more with an ebike.
Just because Class 1 ebikes shut off at 20mph doesn't mean that's all the fast they will go.
You nannies need only worry about yourselves.....let the rest of us do as we please.. within the law.
I`'m a proud fuddy-duddy and retrogrouch.
That cleared, are you saying that if I don't get enough exercise on my current pedal-powered-only bicycle I should buy an e-bike? Perhaps you get a lot of exercise when your battery dies and you have to pedal 30 miles back home.
I have nothing against e-bikes or people who ride them - just don't call them bicycles.
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Old 08-07-18, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
The one thing I've never understood is why a weekend Harley rider thinks they have to dress down and look the part of a biker gang member when they ride. Take any respected doctor or lawyer who might dress in a suit during the week, but on the weekend they dress like Sleazy McScrotebag. I guess it's just a motorcycle thing, but it just makes them look like fakers.
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What's the difference between a Harley and a Dustbuster?

Placement of the dirtbag.
As opposed to what? Cyclists who dress homeless during the week and then like walking billboards in spandex on a bike?

Last I heard people are allowed to wear what they want, but cyclists critiquing fashion is rich.

Some people like me have more than one hobby, I enjoy cycling, hiking, dirt biking, sailing, etc. Why do people in one group feel the need to put others down?
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Old 08-08-18, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by manapua_man
I've seen people get annoyed by folks who were way too slow for a particular group, but I have never seen anyone complain about someone using too cheap of a bike. Most people don't care, and if they do make fun of you it's probably in a joking manner.
Not afraid of people complaining, afraid of getting treated like garbage like I said. Not all jokes are harmless. Also people can make fun of a lot more than someone's bike, if they try, and believe me they do. But I guess I'm getting off topic.
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Originally Posted by Tape2012
As opposed to what? Cyclists who dress homeless during the week and then like walking billboards in spandex on a bike?

Last I heard people are allowed to wear what they want, but cyclists critiquing fashion is rich.

Some people like me have more than one hobby, I enjoy cycling, hiking, dirt biking, sailing, etc. Why do people in one group feel the need to put others down?
Why would you think cycling is exclusive from criticism? Would you wear a pair of Florsheims to the gym? Or skinny jeans to soccer practice?

Like it or not, accept it or not, what someone wears say a lot about them. But not everyone that rides a bike is a pro, or even an enthusiast. You can ride in casual clothes but if you think its OK to ride in PJs or wear a Speedo, don't be surprise if people talk.
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