Huffy + Campagnolo Super Record = The Ultimate C&V Sacrilege build
03-16-23, 12:27 PM
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Don't get me wrong, OP, I think this project is plenty cool.
You know, Dayton is the birthplace of aviation. Home of the Wright brothers. Home of Huffy.
And this bike will obviously take flight once it is appropriately Campagnoloed.
Propeller? Wings? Campy had wings...
You know, Dayton is the birthplace of aviation. Home of the Wright brothers. Home of Huffy.
And this bike will obviously take flight once it is appropriately Campagnoloed.
Propeller? Wings? Campy had wings...
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The only reason I might be opposed to it is because people associate cheapo pipe clamps and Huffy already, so it minimizes shock value. Kinda the same philosophy behind the dork disc. People would see a dork disc on a huffy and think its appropriate. Appropriate is not high up on the build priority
I'm also straddling a fine line between being uber retro proper, and trying to get the bike as light as humanly possible. Where those two circles come together is the sweet spot, like the O.M.A.S. ti BB. Now, if I could find some TITANIUM hose clamps, that idea would be way more enticing
I'm also straddling a fine line between being uber retro proper, and trying to get the bike as light as humanly possible. Where those two circles come together is the sweet spot, like the O.M.A.S. ti BB. Now, if I could find some TITANIUM hose clamps, that idea would be way more enticingI'll read on with great interest
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Just for comparison on F/F, my 1972 Bottecchia, Professional/Giro D'Italia, weights are 1850.7g for the frame (60cm), 499g for the fork w/crown race. Total2349.7 or 5.18 lbs. Frame was completely stripped
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Do yourself a huge favor and start at Page One. Believe you me, it's worth the time and effort!
Seriously, there's good reason this thread has over 10,000 views (as of this writing)
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Seriously, there's good reason this thread has over 10,000 views (as of this writing)
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It has been my experience that this is purely cosmetic cracking of the chrome plating when someone removes the shifters or cable guide without taking special precautions to avoid it, which is to say just about everyone who removes them. When these came from the factory, they were in the "open" position, so they only needed to be flexed around the tube to be mounted. If you are not extremely careful when either removing or even attaching them, the band will want to bend where it is easiest to do so, and that is at the narrowest point. When removing these, my 'trick' is to insert the largest pin punches that will fit into the bolt holes on both sides and then to carefully pull down while pivoting them out, doing as much as I can to distribute the bend over as much of the band as possible. If the bending is distributed around the band, instead of being concentrated in one place, I can usually avoid any cracking of the chrome. Of course, the eBay flipper who is parting out the '74 International that he just bought as a yard sale isn't going to do that, and then he's going to bend it back for the photo, so pretty much any used clamp that you find on eBay has these cracks.
Not to worry if they are there, as the steel in the band was selected for its malleability and can be flexed many times before it breaks. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing one snap. The failures I have seen, other than rust, are with the attachment of the lever stud to the band. Brush a little chrome paint into the cracks after mounting and no one will notice. They're going to be looking at the spacer you use to get the clamp to grip that 1" tube and are not going to notice a defect in the chrome. Sort of like seeing Phyllis Diller in pearls. The shock to the senses will distract from trivial defects.
Not to worry if they are there, as the steel in the band was selected for its malleability and can be flexed many times before it breaks. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing one snap. The failures I have seen, other than rust, are with the attachment of the lever stud to the band. Brush a little chrome paint into the cracks after mounting and no one will notice. They're going to be looking at the spacer you use to get the clamp to grip that 1" tube and are not going to notice a defect in the chrome. Sort of like seeing Phyllis Diller in pearls. The shock to the senses will distract from trivial defects.
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Oh, yeah, I started at the beginning and just replied at that point before carrying on. I'm through it now and it will be religiously followed! I'm guessing 22-6 for the weight.
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In any case maybe we can compromise and call Ohio the birthplace of ‘bicycle aviation’ ??
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FWIW: Campagnolo for a while actually made "dork discs". There are at least 6 for sale on eBay now - one of which is transparent plastic and might actually fit. Unfortunately, you have to look hard to see the Campagnolo panto on that one - but it's there.
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We discussed the possibility of using one of these earlier in the thread but there were a couple points that made this less than ideal -
1. Extra weight on the bike
2. One of these plastic discs costs about 2x what the whole bike did
Now, I don't think I'd be as opposed to it if it has the right 'IT' factor. I describe the 'IT' factor being the balance between flamboyance and weight. Meaning, the heavier the part or component is, the more flamboyantly panache and 'Campy' it needs to be. It goes without saying that components like the Record crankset and the Super Record rear derailleur are a no brainer because they are of decent weight (meaning there is really no penalty to using them vs another crankset or RD) and their acknowledgement as elite parts is high - they are super recognizable and highly regarded.
The dork disc, while decently lightweight, has little in the way of 'regard', so it is sort of just extra weight. But let's be real - when I have to take out a second mortgage to buy a dork disc, something is seriously wrong. I mean, more wrong that 'normal' wrong for this build.
Does anyone know if Campy made a coffee cup holder?
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03-16-23, 07:46 PM
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We discussed the possibility of using one of these earlier in the thread but there were a couple points that made this less than ideal -
1. Extra weight on the bike
2. One of these plastic discs costs about 2x what the whole bike did
Now, I don't think I'd be as opposed to it if it has the right 'IT' factor. I describe the 'IT' factor being the balance between flamboyance and weight. Meaning, the heavier the part or component is, the more flamboyantly panache and 'Campy' it needs to be. It goes without saying that components like the Record crankset and the Super Record rear derailleur are a no brainer because they are of decent weight (meaning there is really no penalty to using them vs another crankset or RD) and their acknowledgement as elite parts is high - they are super recognizable and highly regarded.
The dork disc, while decently lightweight, has little in the way of 'regard', so it is sort of just extra weight. But let's be real - when I have to take out a second mortgage to buy a dork disc, something is seriously wrong. I mean, more wrong that 'normal' wrong for this build.
Does anyone know if Campy made a coffee cup holder?
1. Extra weight on the bike
2. One of these plastic discs costs about 2x what the whole bike did
Now, I don't think I'd be as opposed to it if it has the right 'IT' factor. I describe the 'IT' factor being the balance between flamboyance and weight. Meaning, the heavier the part or component is, the more flamboyantly panache and 'Campy' it needs to be. It goes without saying that components like the Record crankset and the Super Record rear derailleur are a no brainer because they are of decent weight (meaning there is really no penalty to using them vs another crankset or RD) and their acknowledgement as elite parts is high - they are super recognizable and highly regarded.
The dork disc, while decently lightweight, has little in the way of 'regard', so it is sort of just extra weight. But let's be real - when I have to take out a second mortgage to buy a dork disc, something is seriously wrong. I mean, more wrong that 'normal' wrong for this build.
Does anyone know if Campy made a coffee cup holder?
Your money, your bike - so your call. You're right, the cost for the Campy plastic spoke protector is exorbitant. But the plastic one wouldn't be heavy - and it might be a good "stealth second shot" item.
That is, when (as inevitably would happen) someone looked at it and sneered, "A 'dork disc', eh? Figures - it's a Huffy!" you'd have a perfect response: "Yeah? Take a good look at that 'dork disc'. It's Campy."
That said, I'd probably pass too. The cost is exorbitant.
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Nope - but they did produce a nutcracker:
And a saddle that wouldn't crack your nuts:
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And a saddle that wouldn't crack your nuts:
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03-16-23, 07:59 PM
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This quest reminds me of when I took a Raleigh 'Folding Twenty' and made in "full" Campy..got close.The bb was Sugino, but the cups werePhil Wood.
Only front hub was Campy rear was Nuke Proof...etc . Made perfect sense to me, since OEM parts were crap and very heavy.
This Huffy reminds me of my first 'road' bike, a Sears FreeSpirt... 35 lbs easy and I actually did my first race on it ..painful. Had zero Campy parts...
Only front hub was Campy rear was Nuke Proof...etc . Made perfect sense to me, since OEM parts were crap and very heavy.
This Huffy reminds me of my first 'road' bike, a Sears FreeSpirt... 35 lbs easy and I actually did my first race on it ..painful. Had zero Campy parts...
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My apologies if using a Campy "dork disc: was discussed earlier. I was pressed for time when I posted and didn't have time to look through the whole thread. I also couldn't find discussion of that using the "Search This Thread" utility.
Your money, your bike - so your call. You're right, the cost for the Campy plastic spoke protector is exorbitant. But the plastic one wouldn't be heavy - and it might be a good "stealth second shot" item.
That is, when (as inevitably would happen) someone looked at it and sneered, "A 'dork disc', eh? Figures - it's a Huffy!" you'd have a perfect response: "Yeah? Take a good look at that 'dork disc'. It's Campy."
That said, I'd probably pass too. The cost is exorbitant.
Your money, your bike - so your call. You're right, the cost for the Campy plastic spoke protector is exorbitant. But the plastic one wouldn't be heavy - and it might be a good "stealth second shot" item.
That is, when (as inevitably would happen) someone looked at it and sneered, "A 'dork disc', eh? Figures - it's a Huffy!" you'd have a perfect response: "Yeah? Take a good look at that 'dork disc'. It's Campy."
That said, I'd probably pass too. The cost is exorbitant.
Nah, no need to apologize! I mean, I'm not
The other thing about the dork discs is don't they get suuuuuuuuuuuper brittle? Every one I've ever had on a bike older than 30 yrs has just sort of crumbled. Reminds me of a live tv special I saw one time where this old guy was talking about historical phonograph stuff and had this uber rare cylinder that housed some ancient recording on it, and as he was talking about how rare and important it was, it literally just crumbled away in his hands. Harsh!
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During the Cambio Corsa era, the spoke protector was stamped steel. Probably only useful up to a 25t cog.
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I see that they make some of that nice 'lifestyle' gear -
I want this to be me soooooo bad. I'm ready. Let's jump in with both feet!
It reminds me of another brand some of you may be familiar with. So I play guitar, and one of my favorites is Gibson. But one thing I can't get over is how they constantly try to turn the brand into a luxury lifestyle...$200 button down longsleeves and $1000 books. I mean, I like many of their guitars, but c'mon man!!!
If in doubt, just have a look yourself!
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Product...B-TC-SLASH-CUS
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Product...-HBARC-SHRT-XS
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So this is happening.
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^^^^^ Well, knock me down with a feather! ^^^^^
Nice font! That'll should look really cool, and I for one am salivating in anticipation to view the final result of that exercise
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Nice font! That'll should look really cool, and I for one am salivating in anticipation to view the final result of that exercise
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